Guild Wars 2

Seriously its fires hardest hitting ability, but if your target moves even a slight bit into one direction it misses. I seriously would rather it be reduced in damage but increased its area . Pretty useless in pvp as well.

Well they nerfed RTL so much now it has about the same chance to hit as firegrab. That’s balance according to anet.

Stop using daggers, they won’t fix anything until we use other weapons.

Zelyhn.8069:

Stop using daggers, they won’t fix anything until we use other weapons.

Well 99% of ele players don’t use focus yet it still isn’t fixed :/

I have no problems hitting targets. It’s good as it is now. A skill that does so much damage shouldn’t be easy to hit. If a target is getting on your flanks or behind your doing it wrong anyway.

Aether McLoud.1975:

Zelyhn.8069:

Stop using daggers, they won’t fix anything until we use other weapons.

Well 99% of ele players don’t use focus yet it still isn’t fixed :/

This.

Also, try using daggers in Australia, or other lag countries. It can miss a foe who is standing still.

Dalo.3941:

I have no problems hitting targets. It’s good as it is now. A skill that does so much damage shouldn’t be easy to hit. If a target is getting on your flanks or behind your doing it wrong anyway.

LOL “so much damage”. LOL “should not be easy to hit”. I present you: backstab. No opportunity cost, no resource cost, no cooldown, extremely easy to hit.

Also you don’t even seem to use the skill. It fails to hit when the target is right in front of you, but standing on a tiny rock. It fails to hit when the target is strafing. It fails to hit a FRAKKING lot.

Aether McLoud.1975:

Dalo.3941:

I have no problems hitting targets. It’s good as it is now. A skill that does so much damage shouldn’t be easy to hit. If a target is getting on your flanks or behind your doing it wrong anyway.

LOL “so much damage”. LOL “should not be easy to hit”. I present you: backstab. No opportunity cost, no resource cost, no cooldown, extremely easy to hit.

Also you don’t even seem to use the skill. It fails to hit when the target is right in front of you, but standing on a tiny rock. It fails to hit when the target is strafing. It fails to hit a FRAKKING lot.

If you lag, it fails to hit anything unless predicting where they will be in a second or 2. Not to mention the above mentioned backstab … your in stealth when you do it, you don’t have to maneuverer behind the enemy during the fight, you just wander off in your 20 seconds of stealth and come back later for a backstab open.

Aether McLoud.1975:

Dalo.3941:

I have no problems hitting targets. It’s good as it is now. A skill that does so much damage shouldn’t be easy to hit. If a target is getting on your flanks or behind your doing it wrong anyway.

LOL “so much damage”. LOL “should not be easy to hit”. I present you: backstab. No opportunity cost, no resource cost, no cooldown, extremely easy to hit.

Also you don’t even seem to use the skill. It fails to hit when the target is right in front of you, but standing on a tiny rock. It fails to hit when the target is strafing. It fails to hit a FRAKKING lot.

No point of comparing our skills with other classes.

Been playing D/D Ele since beta but of course I probably never use the skill.

I like how Eviscerate teleports Warriors to the other side of the map and they still hit, but FG requires some skill and preparation.

Why? Because despite everybody calling us OP due to a guy exploiting the hell out of PvE consumables while kiting Uplevelled warriors and thieves in blue gear (all that on the US Servers, where most 1vsX PvDers videos are made), Ele is hard to excel at. And that is a good thing.

no, it won’t be fixed. It would make Elementalist less crippled, and that’s a no-no.

I don’t try and make it hit often, I just use it to stack might.

It is hilarious when it does hit and you get to see the big numbers.

Aether McLoud.1975:

Zelyhn.8069:

Stop using daggers, they won’t fix anything until we use other weapons.

Well 99% of ele players don’t use focus yet it still isn’t fixed :/

Focus does not need a fix. Players need a fix! If someone talented (not me) could show the community how powerful the focus is then people would change their minds.

A suggestion for spell instead of firegrab:
Theme: dying star, growing sun
For 4 seconds after cast all damage received makes a ball of fire grow above you, at the end of the 4 seconds the fireball explodes and deals damage plus half of the stored damage in a medium aoe around you, deals more damage to burning targets.
The fireball remains active even if you die within the 4s absorbing time.

Firegrab has a cone damage effect. Its not so much the angle of the cone but the distance of effectiveness.

Myst.5783:

I don’t try and make it hit often, I just use it to stack might.

It is hilarious when it does hit and you get to see the big numbers.

Fire Grab does not stack might.

Zumy.6318:

Myst.5783:

I don’t try and make it hit often, I just use it to stack might.

It is hilarious when it does hit and you get to see the big numbers.

Fire Grab does not stack might.

I wonder why I was thinking it was a blast finisher.

Its a skill i spam and waste pointed in the general direction of the enemy and the end of my fireburst then.

Then you waste the potential to burst thieves in thier smokefield or burst on several ppl who are ressing for 5k.

Highest crit on a d/p backstabber was 11k. He did not even heartseeker out of that field anymore.
(Not counting 23k crits on naked fools ;-))

Zumy.6318:

I like how Eviscerate teleports Warriors to the other side of the map and they still hit, but FG requires some skill and preparation.

Why? Because despite everybody calling us OP due to a guy exploiting the hell out of PvE consumables while kiting Uplevelled warriors and thieves in blue gear (all that on the US Servers, where most 1vsX PvDers videos are made), Ele is hard to excel at. And that is a good thing.

I believe is everybody aim to play the game for fun, I couldn’t care less of people calling me pro or noob accordingly to the profession I play, it’s a videogame..it’s not meant for anything else really, therefore FG should hit as easily as eviscerate, I play the game for fun, I play the ele ’cause I like the concept not because I care to wait for some unknown kid on internet to call me pro or noob

Who did call you noob? o.O

Well, FG is Aoe, Eviscerate is singletarget.

Dalo.3941:

I have no problems hitting targets. It’s good as it is now. A skill that does so much damage shouldn’t be easy to hit. If a target is getting on your flanks or behind your doing it wrong anyway.

All you do is talk about how good you are with the spell, I mean you’ve said it 3 times now and Im pretty sure all you probably do is CoF 1 runs.

Its a buggy spell that is in need for a redesign for PvP because people that walk backwards in an angle are able to dodge the thing; In comparison to other spells that not only hit harder but are 10x easier to land its a meh skill.

It would be nice if it actually grabs the foe before dealing dmg. It is more a fire puff

I have no issues at landing firegrab.

Hanako.1827:

Dalo.3941:

I have no problems hitting targets. It’s good as it is now. A skill that does so much damage shouldn’t be easy to hit. If a target is getting on your flanks or behind your doing it wrong anyway.

All you do is talk about how good you are with the spell, I mean you’ve said it 3 times now and Im pretty sure all you probably do is CoF 1 runs.

Its a buggy spell that is in need for a redesign for PvP because people that walk backwards in an angle are able to dodge the thing; In comparison to other spells that not only hit harder but are 10x easier to land its a meh skill.

Ye of course I play PvE all day. I’ve said it 3 times because there are actually people in this forum that feel the need to make a 3rd thread about this.

The skill is fine, devs should focus on other aspects of the Ele.

Dalo.3941:

Hanako.1827:

Dalo.3941:

I have no problems hitting targets. It’s good as it is now. A skill that does so much damage shouldn’t be easy to hit. If a target is getting on your flanks or behind your doing it wrong anyway.

All you do is talk about how good you are with the spell, I mean you’ve said it 3 times now and Im pretty sure all you probably do is CoF 1 runs.

Its a buggy spell that is in need for a redesign for PvP because people that walk backwards in an angle are able to dodge the thing; In comparison to other spells that not only hit harder but are 10x easier to land its a meh skill.

Ye of course I play PvE all day. I’ve said it 3 times because there are actually people in this forum that feel the need to make a 3rd thread about this.

The skill is fine, devs should focus on other aspects of the Ele.

qft

Fire Grab is easy to hit with. Dragon’s tooth is a lot harder to hit with. ArenaNet should concentrate to improve other less popular weapon to make them more popular and for different builds that wasn’t viable before.

Dalo.3941:

Hanako.1827:

Dalo.3941:

I have no problems hitting targets. It’s good as it is now. A skill that does so much damage shouldn’t be easy to hit. If a target is getting on your flanks or behind your doing it wrong anyway.

All you do is talk about how good you are with the spell, I mean you’ve said it 3 times now and Im pretty sure all you probably do is CoF 1 runs.

Its a buggy spell that is in need for a redesign for PvP because people that walk backwards in an angle are able to dodge the thing; In comparison to other spells that not only hit harder but are 10x easier to land its a meh skill.

Ye of course I play PvE all day. I’ve said it 3 times because there are actually people in this forum that feel the need to make a 3rd thread about this.

The skill is fine, devs should focus on other aspects of the Ele.

“Its fine in PvE where the mobs stand still most the time, therefore it doesn’t need a fix despite being clunky in PvP” .

The reason people are constantly making forums posts about it is because it is annoying as all hell when you spend most of the fight trying to get them to waste rolls to get a chance to land a flame grab and then see them walk and inch away from you diagonally only to see the thing say MISS.

It’s a problem that has existed for a while and nothing has been done about it. Are you really that dense and stubborn to believe that it’s okay for an important damaging spell to only work in one aspect of the game?

Hanako.1827:

Dalo.3941:

Hanako.1827:

Dalo.3941:

I have no problems hitting targets. It’s good as it is now. A skill that does so much damage shouldn’t be easy to hit. If a target is getting on your flanks or behind your doing it wrong anyway.

All you do is talk about how good you are with the spell, I mean you’ve said it 3 times now and Im pretty sure all you probably do is CoF 1 runs.

Its a buggy spell that is in need for a redesign for PvP because people that walk backwards in an angle are able to dodge the thing; In comparison to other spells that not only hit harder but are 10x easier to land its a meh skill.

Ye of course I play PvE all day. I’ve said it 3 times because there are actually people in this forum that feel the need to make a 3rd thread about this.

The skill is fine, devs should focus on other aspects of the Ele.

“Its fine in PvE where the mobs stand still most the time, therefore it doesn’t need a fix despite being clunky in PvP” .

The reason people are constantly making forums posts about it is because it is annoying as all hell when you spend most of the fight trying to get them to waste rolls to get a chance to land a flame grab and then see them walk and inch away from you diagonally only to see the thing say MISS.

It’s a problem that has existed for a while and nothing has been done about it. Are you really that dense and stubborn to believe that it’s okay for an important damaging spell to only work in one aspect of the game?

It is a problem that has existed since release. It was buffed to have a bigger radius but still suffers from missing issues (as does dagger air 2) in pvp (and if you have 300ms … good luck having half your skills hit). The skill is fine in PvE.