Guild Wars 2

Still at 75 seconds. I was hoping this would be fixed after all this time but it doesn’t look like it. Thanks.

Given the reported fixes to ranger and engys next patch it looks like Eles are at the bottom of their list of priorities.

Do any of the devs play an Ele?

Every class is getting changes, with Mesmers having the fewest bullet points, and Engies the most.

For all you know Eles are getting the second most.

IMHO IF there are devs that have fanboism for a particular class should not be allowed to play this game as normal players, or if they do they should not be allowed to balance the game classes, doing has a high chance of resulting in biased game mechanics, as usual elementalist is at the bottom of the bugfix or buffs list since beta, and possibly the most overnerfed class since beta.

I’ll cream my pants if they give us the ability to use a utility slot instead of the elite skill.

Rottaran Owain.6789:

Every class is getting changes, with Mesmers having the fewest bullet points, and Engies the most.

For all you know Eles are getting the second most.

can you post a link to where you see these future updates?

From a post on page 4 in this thread.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/GW2-PVP-Feedback-Merged-Topics/page/4

Noctred.6732:

According to Jon Peters in the mists a few hours ago:

- The profession part of the upcoming patch notes is roughly 5 pages long.
- ~16 bullet points for rangers.
- ~30 bullet points for engis.
- Mesmers saw the fewest number of changes.
- “Tons” of bug fixes.
- “Some” balance changes.
- Portal is a cool ability that’s important to the game but has some problems (whatever that means from their perspective idk).
- The ability to use custom dyes in pvp is possibly coming in a December patch.
- Broken treb and lord announcements should be fixed soon.
- Target of target and player cast bars are low priority but something they might look at in the future.
- Probably no hope of ever letting us disable the terrible skill queue.
- Custom rankings, obs mode, etc. all “on the way” (as usual).

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All in all, I think it’s pretty decent depending on what exactly gets fixed.

Rottaran Owain.6789:

Every class is getting changes, with Mesmers having the fewest bullet points, and Engies the most.

For all you know Eles are getting the second most.

The implication from Peters is that rangers are getting the second most.

morrolan.9608:

Given the reported fixes to ranger and engys next patch it looks like Eles are at the bottom of their list of priorities.

Do any of the devs play an Ele?

Let me remind you that the last patch had some juicy new stuff for D/D and downed state eles, and absolutely nothing for rangers, because their skill changes were delayed.

morrolan.9608:

The implication from Peters is that rangers are getting the second most.

You do know that Arenanet didn’t write the statement themselves, and all that information comes from a cluster of people around Jon asking questions in the mists, right? The post was information we know from Jon with screenshots, and started from some guy on Reddit.

Kinda hard for them to mention the number of bullet points on Elementalists when no one asked.

morrolan.9608:

Given the reported fixes to ranger and engys next patch it looks like Eles are at the bottom of their list of priorities.

Do any of the devs play an Ele?

Do you play anything other than an Ele?

As it stands, Necromancers, Rangers and Engineers are in the worst state of things (between bugged/broken traits and class features). Elementalists may have a handful of issues, but there are higher priorities right now.

Greyfeld.7104:

morrolan.9608:

Given the reported fixes to ranger and engys next patch it looks like Eles are at the bottom of their list of priorities.

Do any of the devs play an Ele?

Do you play anything other than an Ele?

As it stands, Necromancers, Rangers and Engineers are in the worst state of things (between bugged/broken traits and class features). Elementalists may have a handful of issues, but there are higher priorities right now.

I play both ranger and engineer as well, IMHO Ele is as much of a priority as those 2.

morrolan.9608:

Greyfeld.7104:

morrolan.9608:

Given the reported fixes to ranger and engys next patch it looks like Eles are at the bottom of their list of priorities.

Do any of the devs play an Ele?

Do you play anything other than an Ele?

As it stands, Necromancers, Rangers and Engineers are in the worst state of things (between bugged/broken traits and class features). Elementalists may have a handful of issues, but there are higher priorities right now.

I play both ranger and engineer as well, IMHO Ele is as much of a priority as those 2.

There’s nothing to be said for people who are biased toward their own preferences.

Greyfeld.7104:

morrolan.9608:

Greyfeld.7104:

morrolan.9608:

Given the reported fixes to ranger and engys next patch it looks like Eles are at the bottom of their list of priorities.

Do any of the devs play an Ele?

Do you play anything other than an Ele?

As it stands, Necromancers, Rangers and Engineers are in the worst state of things (between bugged/broken traits and class features). Elementalists may have a handful of issues, but there are higher priorities right now.

I play both ranger and engineer as well, IMHO Ele is as much of a priority as those 2.

There’s nothing to be said for people who are biased toward their own preferences.

Yeah, it’s not like there are over 40 somehow bugged skills and about 20 traits.

nbikz.2708:

Greyfeld.7104:

morrolan.9608:

Greyfeld.7104:

morrolan.9608:

Given the reported fixes to ranger and engys next patch it looks like Eles are at the bottom of their list of priorities.

Do any of the devs play an Ele?

Do you play anything other than an Ele?

As it stands, Necromancers, Rangers and Engineers are in the worst state of things (between bugged/broken traits and class features). Elementalists may have a handful of issues, but there are higher priorities right now.

I play both ranger and engineer as well, IMHO Ele is as much of a priority as those 2.

There’s nothing to be said for people who are biased toward their own preferences.

Yeah, it’s not like there are over 40 somehow bugged skills and about 20 traits.

Gee, that sounds just like Necromancer. Except for the part where Elementalists still manage to be a strong class despite the bugs. Sucks for everybody else, I guess.

Necromancer is a very strong class as well. It just happens to be amazing at team support and point control in tPvP and not so good at 1v1 and sPvP. The problem is they can’t really buff the latter without making it insanely OP in the former.

All of the classes have at least 60 or more bugs that need fixing. Necro, Ele, and Engi all have strong roles in competitive tPvP. Of all the classes being discussed, Ranger is by far the worst off. It’s virtually absent from competitive play.

mouse.1689:

Necromancer is a very strong class as well. It just happens to be amazing at team support and point control in tPvP and not so good at 1v1 and sPvP. The problem is they can’t really buff the latter without making it insanely OP in the former.

All of the classes have at least 60 or more bugs that need fixing. Necro, Ele, and Engi all have strong roles in competitive tPvP. Of all the classes being discussed, Ranger is by far the worst off. It’s virtually absent from competitive play.

Ranger is pretty much absent from everything but solo PvE, but this is due to poor design, not bugs. As a player with a level 80 ranger in a mix of rares and exotics, I can honestly say that the wide majority of my traits at least work (I don’t know if there are any cases of tooltips not matching the exact functionality of the traits, as I don’t pay that much attention to the fine print). At least, the ones that I’ve been using. I’ve never traited into spirits, so I don’t know if that line works properly or not. But at the end of the day, most of their broken functionality has to do with badly designed traits and features, not necessarily broken ones.

Which, I believe, is also why they pushed the Ranger patch back once before, because they’re working on more than just fixing bugs for the class.

That said, nearly every once of the Necromancers’ traits are either broken or near-useless, on top of really only having a single viable build for competitive… well, anything.

Elementalists, on the other hand, at the very least have multiple workable builds. There may be bugs and glitches, but they don’t stop the class from actually functioning as a whole. There are problems, like having only a single elite skill that’s worth using… but those issues are mirrored in other classes as well (necros only have one decent elite, which can’t even be used underwater… thieves have a slew of crappy elite skills and, again, have no good elite skills for underwater combat).

My point, really, is that Elementalists need to realize that they’re not top priority right now. Yes, they have problems. But so does everybody else. Anet is working as hard and as fast as they can, and not being first in line doesn’t mean that Anet is ignoring your issues, and it sure as hell doesn’t mean that the sky is falling.

My bad, might have overreacted a bit, but it’s still annoying that for example, Ride the Lightning is very bugged at the moment. (Sometimes just standing still in the middle of usage, aura doesn’t grant buffs while in the middle of lightning)
Also, there is a trait that does absolutely nothing at the moment, how did it get through and still not get fixed is beyond my understanding. (The dagger movement speed one, just doesn’t work)

nbikz.2708:

My bad, might have overreacted a bit, but it’s still annoying that for example, Ride the Lightning is very bugged at the moment. (Sometimes just standing still in the middle of usage, aura doesn’t grant buffs while in the middle of lightning)
Also, there is a trait that does absolutely nothing at the moment, how did it get through and still not get fixed is beyond my understanding. (The dagger movement speed one, just doesn’t work)

The necromancer’s entire fifth traitline, the one that boosts their main mechanic, does nothing. Can you imagine us poor Elementalists with an arcana line that did not decrease our attunement recharges? Yeah, Necromancer’s bugs are that bad.

They also have one minor trait that makes them weaker, making people not want to spec into the traitline its on. Fans are even asking to disable that trait as a quickfix until it’s fixed, because it’s better doing nothing that making you worse.

Just so some ele fans realize how bad necro’s bugs are.