For those who played ele all these years...
Your post is full of errors mate. Don’t worry, I’ll help you out.
For those who enjoy their classes even when you could not 1v4 in SPvP…
For those who keep going despite the general hated for the class due to imbalancing issues and become nothing more then a balanced class with good damage
Rest is fairly accurate.
Your post is full of errors mate. Don’t worry, I’ll help you out.
For those who enjoy their classes even when you could not 1v4 in SPvP…
For those who keep going despite the general hated for the class due to imbalancing issues and become nothing more then a balanced class with good damage
Rest is fairly accurate.
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Your post is full of errors mate. Don’t worry, I’ll help you out.
For those who enjoy their classes even when you could not 1v4 in SPvP…
For those who keep going despite the general hated for the class due to imbalancing issues and become nothing more then a balanced class with good damage
Rest is fairly accurate.
Ele hasn’t always been the meta. We have fallen in and out from one balance patch to another. There were periods where we were barely able to compete even as bunker builds.
These last few months after specialization change, the one Ar/Water/X cantrip build got out of hand, and that’s getting its deserved nerf. I agree that people who main this build is complaining too much, but at the same time, it’s not like ele as a whole has always been doing what you claim it does.
Your post is full of errors mate. Don’t worry, I’ll help you out.
For those who enjoy their classes even when you could not 1v4 in SPvP…
For those who keep going despite the general hated for the class due to imbalancing issues and become nothing more then a balanced class with good damage
Rest is fairly accurate.
Here my friend, a clear message from eles to all of you haters
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/011/906/your-tears-are-delicious-360x500_1_.jpg
Your post is full of errors mate. Don’t worry, I’ll help you out.
For those who enjoy their classes even when you could not 1v4 in SPvP…
For those who keep going despite the general hated for the class due to imbalancing issues and become nothing more then a balanced class with good damage
Rest is fairly accurate.
Ele hasn’t always been the meta. We have fallen in and out from one balance patch to another. There were periods where we were barely able to compete even as bunker builds.
These last few months after specialization change, the one Ar/Water/X cantrip build got out of hand, and that’s getting its deserved nerf. I agree that people who main this build is complaining too much, but at the same time, it’s not like ele as a whole has always been doing what you claim it does.
You’re wrong saying that people complain about the nerfs ( save ice bow nerf thread maybe), you can clearly see that are still people who want several more nerfs on ele, like they want ele to become a walking free loot bag
Your post is full of errors mate. Don’t worry, I’ll help you out.
For those who enjoy their classes even when you could not 1v4 in SPvP…
For those who keep going despite the general hated for the class due to imbalancing issues and become nothing more then a balanced class with good damage
Rest is fairly accurate.
Ele hasn’t always been the meta. We have fallen in and out from one balance patch to another. There were periods where we were barely able to compete even as bunker builds.
These last few months after specialization change, the one Ar/Water/X cantrip build got out of hand, and that’s getting its deserved nerf. I agree that people who main this build is complaining too much, but at the same time, it’s not like ele as a whole has always been doing what you claim it does.
You’re wrong saying that people complain about the nerfs ( save ice bow nerf thread maybe), you can clearly see that are still people who want several more nerfs on ele, like they want ele to become a walking free loot bag
Aside from multiple ice bow nerf threads, I also see 3 threads on the front page complaining about nerfs on eles.
And as frustrating as the ele-haters might be, they were created because of an clearly imbalanced build. As an ele who chose not to play the Ar/Water cantrip build I also wished for nerfs to that particular build, and that’s from someone who understands its strengths and weaknesses, and still could beat them quite frequently.
Other people who’re not as familiar about the class would only see this unkillable ele who hits like a truck. Hardly a surprise they don’t look at things from our perspective and just wants things to be gutted.
Your post is full of errors mate. Don’t worry, I’ll help you out.
For those who enjoy their classes even when you could not 1v4 in SPvP…
For those who keep going despite the general hated for the class due to imbalancing issues and become nothing more then a balanced class with good damage
Rest is fairly accurate.
Ele hasn’t always been the meta. We have fallen in and out from one balance patch to another. There were periods where we were barely able to compete even as bunker builds.
These last few months after specialization change, the one Ar/Water/X cantrip build got out of hand, and that’s getting its deserved nerf. I agree that people who main this build is complaining too much, but at the same time, it’s not like ele as a whole has always been doing what you claim it does.
You’re wrong saying that people complain about the nerfs ( save ice bow nerf thread maybe), you can clearly see that are still people who want several more nerfs on ele, like they want ele to become a walking free loot bag
Aside from multiple ice bow nerf threads, I also see 3 threads on the front page complaining about nerfs on eles.
And as frustrating as the ele-haters might be, they were created because of an clearly imbalanced build. As an ele who chose not to play the Ar/Water cantrip build I also wished for nerfs to that particular build, and that’s from someone who understands its strengths and weaknesses, and still could beat them quite frequently.
Other people who’re not as familiar about the class would only see this unkillable ele who hits like a truck. Hardly a surprise they don’t look at things from our perspective and just wants things to be gutted.
You must not forget other professions power creep( including future elite spec) as right now any other build outside water/arc/cantrip stands zero chance against anything, no matter how much somebody comes here and say :“I can play ele without water/arcana/cantrip”.
I say:" prove it with a video, no words", at 100% I can jump on any other profession right now and 100 to 0 ANY ele who doesn’t play water/arcana/cantrip..like without that set up you have less than zero sustain lol.
Like try a fresh air ele( an example of ele with cantrips/sustain),….I can kill him with a rifle war almost or soldier amulet trap ranger
You must understand the perspective of those who wish to keep playing the profession in a competitive way.
A smart player that he’s frustrated with ele would suggest an alternative to the current design to the devs but…90% of forum wars asking for nerfs are just “players” whose asinine level of play is concealed while spouting vitriol and ignorance on the forum
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Your post is full of errors mate. Don’t worry, I’ll help you out.
For those who enjoy their classes even when you could not 1v4 in SPvP…
For those who keep going despite the general hated for the class due to imbalancing issues and become nothing more then a balanced class with good damage
Rest is fairly accurate.
Ele hasn’t always been the meta. We have fallen in and out from one balance patch to another. There were periods where we were barely able to compete even as bunker builds.
These last few months after specialization change, the one Ar/Water/X cantrip build got out of hand, and that’s getting its deserved nerf. I agree that people who main this build is complaining too much, but at the same time, it’s not like ele as a whole has always been doing what you claim it does.
You’re wrong saying that people complain about the nerfs ( save ice bow nerf thread maybe), you can clearly see that are still people who want several more nerfs on ele, like they want ele to become a walking free loot bag
Aside from multiple ice bow nerf threads, I also see 3 threads on the front page complaining about nerfs on eles.
And as frustrating as the ele-haters might be, they were created because of an clearly imbalanced build. As an ele who chose not to play the Ar/Water cantrip build I also wished for nerfs to that particular build, and that’s from someone who understands its strengths and weaknesses, and still could beat them quite frequently.
Other people who’re not as familiar about the class would only see this unkillable ele who hits like a truck. Hardly a surprise they don’t look at things from our perspective and just wants things to be gutted.
You must not forget other professions power creep( including future elite spec) as right now any other build outside water/arc/cantrip stands zero chance against anything, no matter how much somebody comes here and say :“I can play ele without water/arcana/cantrip”.
I say:" prove it with a video, no words", at 100% I can jump on any other profession right now and 100 to 0 ANY ele who doesn’t play water/arcana/cantrip..like without that set up you have less than zero sustain lol.
Like try a fresh air ele( an example of ele with cantrips/sustain),….I can kill him with a rifle war almost or soldier amulet trap rangerYou must understand the perspective of those who wish to keep playing the profession in a competitive way.
A smart player that he’s frustrated with ele would suggest an alternative to the current design to the devs but…90% of forum wars asking for nerfs are just “players” whose asinine level of play is concealed while spouting vitriol and ignorance on the forum
I can play ele without arcane/water/cantrips. But it kittenING SUCKS. Lmfao.
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I guess some players are just too narrow-minded to realize how OP D/D Ele is/has been. No wonder they’re living in a vacuum when all they play is Ele.
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I guess some players are just too narrow-minded to realize how OP D/D Ele is/has been. No wonder they’re living in a vacuum when all they play is Ele.
Some eles would like to play fresh air scepter but guess what?….players carried by stealth block any profession from playing burst, some others won’t play staff because they haven’t got an ESL team to defend them against stealth abusers..but hey as soon as eles get a build that can kills stealth abusers…we become OP and must be nerfed…..what is it d/p thief whatever? Did a d/d ele steal your puppy?…yeah cry a me a river while you camp stealth/burst because that’s totally legit (or so mesmer/thieves believe)
Some eles would like to play fresh air scepter but guess what?….players carried by stealth block any profession from playing burst, some others won’t play staff because they haven’t got an ESL team to defend them against stealth abusers..but hey as soon as eles get a build that can kills stealth abusers…we become OP and must be nerfed…..what is it d/p thief whatever? Did a d/d ele steal your puppy?…yeah cry a me a river while you camp stealth/burst because that’s totally legit (or so mesmer/thieves believe)
Let me just preface that I’m against any type of eazymode builds, no matter what class. This includes, but is not limited to: D/D Ele, D/P SA Thief, Burn Guard, Cele Necro, PU Mesmer, Shoutbow etc.
Whilst I agree that stealth has been given out too much too excessively and is usually paired with too much other good stuff (hello SA, PU), it’s a core mechanic for some classes and needs to stay in one way or another.
A lot of whine about stealth could potentially be avoided by testing the class yourself and especially by proper LoS and positioning, but thats a general problem, because a) not many players pay attention to that and b) some classes require more LoS and positioning than others with Ele rather being on the low end here.
Unless you’re playing in a team or your tryharding, I see absolutely no reason to not play fresh air. Actually I’ve pretty much only played FA Ele ever since the June patch, cuz my thief is pidgeonholed into boring D/P SA spec. The spec isn’t half as kittenome players say it is. Surely, it isn’t viable in tpvp, but I have no issues killing thieves and Mesmer isn’t that much of a problem either. Actually I’d say it does fairly good against any marauder spec, it just freaking sucks, because PVP is flooded with D/D Eles, which it sucks against.
D/D Ele is just straight out broken, no build in the world should have no counter. They can brainlessly engage in any 1v1 and have no problems to sustain 1v2 or 1v3’s.
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I see that I’ve gotten a few responses. Let me adress them in a respectful manner.
First off, I “main” engineer, but I also enjoy necro,thief and elementalist.
And with thief and engineer in the current meta I have to work for my kills and support the team. On the D/D ele, I can force people off point, 2v1 and not really worry about me dying because I wont.
This is however not exclusive to just elementalist.
What has happened is, some professions such as ele, mesmer , necro, burn guard has the option to burst really hard while getting saved by defensive mechanics, interupt, stun.
Thief used to have that, since all they could do was burst and stealth, blink away. But since alot of these popular builds are focused on more burst, the thief actually falls out and is now viewed and played as a support capper/Spotter/party stealther ect.
Talking about core mechanics?
Ele core mechanic is sustain ‘cause he ain’t got anything else, without the sustain to differentiate them from the rest…tell me why anybody sane would touch an ele. nobody would touch an ele with a 2m long pole.
Ele is hard to kill ‘cause we can’t press 222… and do 10k dmg from 1500 range, because we can’t press double god mode and press 1-2 with a giant axe and crit people for 5k+, we can’t CC lock people to death with 10s+ skill, we can’t stealth burst the world from 100 to 0 in 2-3s, we can’t block all day.
Ele got nothing outside sustain
And btw..nobody can’t 1vs2 decent players..nobody, everybody say it but nobody shows a single video, but we have plenty of videos of @Phntaram getting 100-0 in 2s during esl matches while being 1vs2, wanna watch?
One more thing, during last WTS ROM even if briefly switched to shoutbow..and he was able to stall Phanta on point for all match while sitting at 90% HP.
Pls post a video of you playing fresh air against anything but hotjoiners…’cause against them I can play a naked trap ranger and win with 100% HP
I see that I’ve gotten a few responses. Let me adress them in a respectful manner.
First off, I “main” engineer, but I also enjoy necro,thief and elementalist.And with thief and engineer in the current meta I have to work for my kills and support the team. On the D/D ele, I can force people off point, 2v1 and not really worry about me dying because I wont.
This is however not exclusive to just elementalist.
What has happened is, some professions such as ele, mesmer , necro, burn guard has the option to burst really hard while getting saved by defensive mechanics, interupt, stun.
Thief used to have that, since all they could do was burst and stealth, blink away. But since alot of these popular builds are focused on more burst, the thief actually falls out and is now viewed and played as a support capper/Spotter/party stealther ect.
Yes …1vs2, just come and 1vs2 me and my friend or even a random PUG and we record it, I always make this offer, nobody ever accept
P.S And yes ele may deserve nerfs but…so do others, you can’t power creep all the rest and then gut the ele, just look at the specializations and the power creep necros, mesmer and engi will get…ele got tempest yeah..
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Oh, I agree that others shouldn’t be powercreeped while ele is nerfed, however at the moment, just the fact that the ar/water/x ele is so much better than all other ele builds is a problem in itself. It was OP.
Also you’re greatly exaggerating. S/F builds aren’t meta by any means but they do quite well against most other classes. They just actually have to trade survivalbility for damage. With the coming patch scepter is also getting buffed, so I’d wait and see.
Oh, I agree that others shouldn’t be powercreeped while ele is nerfed, however at the moment, just the fact that the ar/water/x ele is so much better than all other ele builds is a problem in itself. It was OP.
Also you’re greatly exaggerating. S/F builds aren’t meta by any means but they do quite well against most other classes. They just actually have to trade survivalbility for damage. With the coming patch scepter is also getting buffed, so I’d wait and see.
What do you mean, at the moment. Eles always, always, only had arcane+water+x+cantrip build, nothing else. ALL of ele defenses are built into water+arcane+cantrips, we have nothing else.
This hasn’t changed since the original game’s beta. And people always seem to forget the WHOLE YEAR ele was so ridiculously bad you were screamed at for even having the guts to bring one into unranked soloq.
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Anyone who claim to 1v2 using Ele, feel free to duel my Burn Guard and and my friend.
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Already quit PvP. Just log in here and there to troll.
Already quit PvP. Just log in here and there to troll.
My elementalist just turned 3 years old the other day. Only class I have really played except for engineer.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
The only real dark age was at the start of the game when no one really knew how to play elementalist and didn’t fully understand it’s potential.
The class, compared to other classes, has been consistently strong and always been an enjoyment to play.
I can’t remember a single time in 3 years either where I got some kind of nasty message or got removed from a group for playing an elementalist.
If you really want to pat yourself on the back, you should have played a ranger for the last 3 years.
And anyone who applies a balanced and fair viewpoint (instead of incessantly whining and creating over-drama on the forums like a 14 year old girl), to the latest round of nerfs will realize they aren’t that bad.
Rehabilitated Elementalist. Now, trolling the Thief forums with my math.
I main guard and engi in pvp. That said I’ve clocked my fair share of hours on ele in spvp the last 3 years. I’ve gone from s/f to d/d and all other combos in between just for fun and although I’ve never used arcana trait line i will say that d/d water-cantrip ele is deff fun and strong.
But when I want easy mode I always go zerker hammer/GS warrior. Why care about getting a rotation and setup down perfectly when I can just hammer CC you and then press 2 GS buttons and win?
But what I can say about the ele changes is this; Don’t sweat it too much. It will such at first. Maybe even for a little bit. However, a new build will start to pick up stride and become viable. As they always do. And ele will still be, in the hands of a skilled player, incredibly fun and effective at both killing and surviving.
If you think that these change will hurt eles spot as one of the strongest professions then you are just mad that you have to change your current build. Ele bye design is meant to be very effective in the hands of a skilled player. So how about we let those skilled players shine on one of the most skilled based classes in the game.
My elementalist just turned 3 years old the other day. Only class I have really played except for engineer.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
The only real dark age was at the start of the game when no one really knew how to play elementalist and didn’t fully understand it’s potential.
The class, compared to other classes, has been consistently strong and always been an enjoyment to play.
I can’t remember a single time in 3 years either where I got some kind of nasty message or got removed from a group for playing an elementalist.
If you really want to pat yourself on the back, you should have played a ranger for the last 3 years.
And anyone who applies a balanced and fair viewpoint (instead of incessantly whining and creating over-drama on the forums like a 14 year old girl), to the latest round of nerfs will realize they aren’t that bad.
You’re talking about PvE, they are talking about PvP.
There was definitely a dark age for Ele in PvP.
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Already quit PvP. Just log in here and there to troll.
Already quit PvP. Just log in here and there to troll.
My elementalist just turned 3 years old the other day. Only class I have really played except for engineer.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
The only real dark age was at the start of the game when no one really knew how to play elementalist and didn’t fully understand it’s potential.
The class, compared to other classes, has been consistently strong and always been an enjoyment to play.
I can’t remember a single time in 3 years either where I got some kind of nasty message or got removed from a group for playing an elementalist.
If you really want to pat yourself on the back, you should have played a ranger for the last 3 years.
And anyone who applies a balanced and fair viewpoint (instead of incessantly whining and creating over-drama on the forums like a 14 year old girl), to the latest round of nerfs will realize they aren’t that bad.
You’re talking about PvE, they are talking about PvP.
There was definitely a dark age for Ele in PvP.
Right, because everyone who posts on the forums is a such a kitten pro-level player who plays on such a high end level that even playing a slightly sub par build can cost you a game. No one who posts here is part of the 90% in the meat and potatoes brackets where winning is usually determined by being slightly less dogkitten than your opponent and not playing a build only ranked “good” on Metabattle.
It wasn’t that bad.
Rehabilitated Elementalist. Now, trolling the Thief forums with my math.
My elementalist just turned 3 years old the other day. Only class I have really played except for engineer.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
The only real dark age was at the start of the game when no one really knew how to play elementalist and didn’t fully understand it’s potential.
The class, compared to other classes, has been consistently strong and always been an enjoyment to play.
I can’t remember a single time in 3 years either where I got some kind of nasty message or got removed from a group for playing an elementalist.
If you really want to pat yourself on the back, you should have played a ranger for the last 3 years.
And anyone who applies a balanced and fair viewpoint (instead of incessantly whining and creating over-drama on the forums like a 14 year old girl), to the latest round of nerfs will realize they aren’t that bad.
You’re talking about PvE, they are talking about PvP.
There was definitely a dark age for Ele in PvP.
Right, because everyone who posts on the forums is a such a kitten pro-level player who plays on such a high end level that even playing a slightly sub par build can cost you a game. No one who posts here is part of the 90% in the meat and potatoes brackets where winning is usually determined by being slightly less dogkitten than your opponent and not playing a build only ranked “good” on Metabattle.
It wasn’t that bad.
Wasn’t that bad? ^^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh5zjK7ITpQ
MadRabbit must be another one of those legendary heroes who can wipe a whole team while playing ele with a hand behind their back…too skilled for us…but we need a video to show the world your powerful gameplay so us ..well me can learn from your master level skill
My elementalist just turned 3 years old the other day. Only class I have really played except for engineer.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
The only real dark age was at the start of the game when no one really knew how to play elementalist and didn’t fully understand it’s potential.
The class, compared to other classes, has been consistently strong and always been an enjoyment to play.
I can’t remember a single time in 3 years either where I got some kind of nasty message or got removed from a group for playing an elementalist.
If you really want to pat yourself on the back, you should have played a ranger for the last 3 years.
And anyone who applies a balanced and fair viewpoint (instead of incessantly whining and creating over-drama on the forums like a 14 year old girl), to the latest round of nerfs will realize they aren’t that bad.
You’re talking about PvE, they are talking about PvP.
There was definitely a dark age for Ele in PvP.
Right, because everyone who posts on the forums is a such a kitten pro-level player who plays on such a high end level that even playing a slightly sub par build can cost you a game. No one who posts here is part of the 90% in the meat and potatoes brackets where winning is usually determined by being slightly less dogkitten than your opponent and not playing a build only ranked “good” on Metabattle.
It wasn’t that bad.
Wasn’t that bad? ^^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh5zjK7ITpQ
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MadRabbit must be another one of those legendary heroes who can wipe a whole team while playing ele with a hand behind their back…too skilled for us…but we need a video to show the world your powerful gameplay so us ..well me can learn from your master level skill
Actually, it’s the exact opposite. I was pretty kittenty in 2012 as was everyone when the youtube video in the previous post came out and the kittentiness at the time contributed to the perception in the video (I actually saw that very video when it came out).
But I didn’t blame the class just because I was kittenty at it. D/D builds started to emerge, I learned how to play one and I eventually evolved to the mediocrely average player I am today where I began to do well and win games against the other mediocrely average players I was ranked with.
And luckily do to my mediocrely averageness, nerfs have never really influenced my elementalist experience over the years, because of the mediocrely average players I have played against over the years.
Which always blows my mind when people write these posts of “OMG! We lost 3 stacks of might! The sky if falling!”, because I and, based on mathematical probability, most of us are probably not good enough at the game to begin with it for it to make a difference.
Rehabilitated Elementalist. Now, trolling the Thief forums with my math.
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MadRabbit must be another one of those legendary heroes who can wipe a whole team while playing ele with a hand behind their back…too skilled for us…but we need a video to show the world your powerful gameplay so us ..well me can learn from your master level skill
Actually, it’s the exact opposite. I was pretty kittenty in 2012 as was everyone when the youtube video in the previous post came out and the kittentiness at the time contributed to the perception in the video (I actually saw that very video when it came out).
But I didn’t blame the class just because I was kittenty at it. D/D builds started to emerge, I learned how to play one and I eventually evolved to the mediocrely average player I am today where I began to do well and win games against the other mediocrely average players I was ranked with.
And luckily do to my mediocrely averageness, nerfs have never really influenced my elementalist experience over the years, because of the mediocrely average players I have played against over the years.
Which always blows my mind when people write these posts of “OMG! We lost 3 stacks of might! The sky if falling!”, because I and, based on mathematical probability, most of us are probably not good enough at the game to begin with it for it to make a difference.
Actually it is more than just 3 stacks of might, you could get far more than just 3 stacks of might with it (don’t forget it’s passive proc). The thing is that daggers abusive fire application was rightfully nerfed, but longer cd on blinding ashes and less might stacks hurt more than just the D/D ele (looking at you staff ele).
IF I play HoT (still unsure at this point..) I will probably play a revenant after 3 years of maining ele. Good class but no changes and a spec that is the same but worse….ya…nothx. Even woodenpotatoes basically said he’s probably changing and he is the biggest ele fanboy.
Actually it is more than just 3 stacks of might, you could get far more than just 3 stacks of might with it (don’t forget it’s passive proc). The thing is that daggers abusive fire application was rightfully nerfed, but longer cd on blinding ashes and less might stacks hurt more than just the D/D ele (looking at you staff ele).
You are correct. I was being hyperbolic.
But…
As a mediocrely average staff elementalist, I disagree with that. But I will temper that disagreement with the fact that it comes from my perspective with my build choices.
In PvP, I use Earth/Water/Arcane almost religiously, so once again, it’s not an issue.
In WvW, I use Air/Water/Arcane, so also, not an issue.
In PvE, where I do run Fire, maybe an issue, but let’s temper that with a pragmatic view of how the current state of PvE works.
In a dungeon or fractal, my usual purpose is to blast fire fields for fury, because there is most likely one or two sources of group might.
If I am playing solo in VW, it could be an issue, but not really. I am not blowing my cantrips in that zone to stack might. I am using them as needed to stay alive. My main source of might is mostly sigils, runes and building stacks in fire from Pyromancer.
Rehabilitated Elementalist. Now, trolling the Thief forums with my math.
Your post is full of errors mate. Don’t worry, I’ll help you out.
For those who enjoy their classes even when you could not 1v4 in SPvP…
For those who keep going despite the general hated for the class due to imbalancing issues and become nothing more then a balanced class with good damage
Rest is fairly accurate.
Ele hasn’t always been the meta. We have fallen in and out from one balance patch to another. There were periods where we were barely able to compete even as bunker builds.
These last few months after specialization change, the one Ar/Water/X cantrip build got out of hand, and that’s getting its deserved nerf. I agree that people who main this build is complaining too much, but at the same time, it’s not like ele as a whole has always been doing what you claim it does.
You’re wrong saying that people complain about the nerfs ( save ice bow nerf thread maybe), you can clearly see that are still people who want several more nerfs on ele, like they want ele to become a walking free loot bag
And why not? Other classes have endure being the “free loot bag” at least once or more, why shouldn’t ele be exempted from that experience?
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Your post is full of errors mate. Don’t worry, I’ll help you out.
For those who enjoy their classes even when you could not 1v4 in SPvP…
For those who keep going despite the general hated for the class due to imbalancing issues and become nothing more then a balanced class with good damage
Rest is fairly accurate.
Ele hasn’t always been the meta. We have fallen in and out from one balance patch to another. There were periods where we were barely able to compete even as bunker builds.
These last few months after specialization change, the one Ar/Water/X cantrip build got out of hand, and that’s getting its deserved nerf. I agree that people who main this build is complaining too much, but at the same time, it’s not like ele as a whole has always been doing what you claim it does.
You’re wrong saying that people complain about the nerfs ( save ice bow nerf thread maybe), you can clearly see that are still people who want several more nerfs on ele, like they want ele to become a walking free loot bag
And why not? Other classes have endure being the “free loot bag” at least once or more, why shouldn’t ele be exempted from that experience?
Ele has been in the trash tier PvP-wise in the past, for nearly a year at that.
In any event, anyone who wants ANY profession to be useless (as in, not viable at all) is someone who has no business talking balance. Yes, professions fall in and out of the meta all the time—this is inevitable when party size is 5—but no one should seriously be advocating for a profession to be completely unviable.
Fear the might of SHATTERSTONE.
I remember back when any kind of offensive stats was viewed as wrong then taking a break and coming back to find out that mostly offensive wasn’t offensive enough. Now finally after all this time there’s talk about balanced stats having a place in the game.
What a rollercoaster.
Kodiak X – Blackgate
Actually it is more than just 3 stacks of might, you could get far more than just 3 stacks of might with it (don’t forget it’s passive proc). The thing is that daggers abusive fire application was rightfully nerfed, but longer cd on blinding ashes and less might stacks hurt more than just the D/D ele (looking at you staff ele).
You are correct. I was being hyperbolic.
But…
As a mediocrely average staff elementalist, I disagree with that. But I will temper that disagreement with the fact that it comes from my perspective with my build choices.
In PvP, I use Earth/Water/Arcane almost religiously, so once again, it’s not an issue.
In WvW, I use Air/Water/Arcane, so also, not an issue.
In PvE, where I do run Fire, maybe an issue, but let’s temper that with a pragmatic view of how the current state of PvE works.
In a dungeon or fractal, my usual purpose is to blast fire fields for fury, because there is most likely one or two sources of group might.
If I am playing solo in VW, it could be an issue, but not really. I am not blowing my cantrips in that zone to stack might. I am using them as needed to stay alive. My main source of might is mostly sigils, runes and building stacks in fire from Pyromancer.
Well there are other perspective though. Some of us are playing their staff or scepter/x in all game mode with Fire/Air/Water zerk (marauder in pvp) and that change is going to hurt something not exactly op or ez.