Guild Wars 2

Does killing it rally foes?

I fought once and my enemy apparently rallied off of my elemental (rallied immediately as it died). Can´t say for certain, might have been coincidence, but i haven´t bothered to test it out as the skill flew out of my hotbar so fast it died of acceleration.

Yes, it does. Also if it times out.

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This has been making the elementals worthless for a while now outside of PvE.

That’s why in PvP use Tornado!!!

It does? That’s odd because the same doesn’t seem to apply for mesmer clones…

That would make sense for the clones because they’re illusions and not an actual summoned creature.

Yeah, but mechanics wise, they’re the same thing.

In my opinion, it shouldn’t count for any summon…

Not really. A mesmer is nothing without its clones. It’s integral to the mesmer’s gameplay and if you were able to rally by finishing off the piddly hp of a clone it would not be a viable class at all. A conjured elemental, however, is just a utility skill that you can choose or not choose to utilize.

So what about the couple of thief abilities that summons thieves? They can summon up to 3 total, I think. Does that do the same? If not, then I would suspect this was overlooked and should be fixed.

Mahanaxar.1386:

Not really. A mesmer is nothing without its clones. It’s integral to the mesmer’s gameplay and if you were able to rally by finishing off the piddly hp of a clone it would not be a viable class at all. A conjured elemental, however, is just a utility skill that you can choose or not choose to utilize.

Yes, but like Strang said…if that’s true, it basically makes summons utterly worthless in WvW. Even more so if enemies rally whenever it gets repositioned if you move to far from it.

Necro’s spec’d into Death Magic were plagued by this kind of bug for weeks because the 5pt minor trait was, and still is, a useless on-killl summoned creature. Finally got fixed after weeks more of crying.

Does this happen in sPVP too? I’ve seen some strange selfrallies there too and never knew where they came from?

Aether McLoud.1975:

Does this happen in sPVP too? I’ve seen some strange selfrallies there too and never knew where they came from?

Mechanics of the skills are the same the too, so it should do that yea.

ThiBash.5634:

Mahanaxar.1386:

Not really. A mesmer is nothing without its clones. It’s integral to the mesmer’s gameplay and if you were able to rally by finishing off the piddly hp of a clone it would not be a viable class at all. A conjured elemental, however, is just a utility skill that you can choose or not choose to utilize.

Yes, but like Strang said…if that’s true, it basically makes summons utterly worthless in WvW. Even more so if enemies rally whenever it gets repositioned if you move to far from it.

Oh I agree and it should be fixed. I still prefer Tornado’ing people off cliffs, though. :-P

That does sound useful in combat…pity my aim is so terrible.

Strang.8170:

Aether McLoud.1975:

Does this happen in sPVP too? I’ve seen some strange selfrallies there too and never knew where they came from?

Mechanics of the skills are the same the too, so it should do that yea.

Well pvp uses a different ruleset than wvw so has anyone confirmed this in pvp?