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Posted by: Retsuko.2035

Retsuko.2035

Going to be testing this build in both d/d and d/f.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEQQJAodhMmabvR3wjEAkCmMe0xGkIU8gFlCzA-jUCBYjBk+AkKAI5rIasFSFRjVbDTXKpaXCyuDJVGgixA-w

I’ve always loved our signets. It’s just finding a good build that has the best crit dmg—>dmg ratio. Many ppl seem to shy away from not going 20-30 into arcana. But that’s where I feel like signets make up for that. Well see, testing in progress in wvw soon.

How do you think these signets make up for the lack of boon duration and attunement recharge?
And what about the lack of other useful utilities like mist form, arcane wave, armor of earth, lightning flash, etc. I rather have mist form over a bit of extra toughness from a signet personally.

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Posted by: Treborlavok.3504

Treborlavok.3504

Who uses mist form anymore? Since you can be rooted in it it’s a pointless utility now.

I was referring to signet of water being a passive auto cleansing wave from evasive arcana spec. Armor of earth is a one trick pony unless it’s a long drawn out fight but even then in a 1v1 1v2 situation is rather have the passives of signet of earth and water and lower cd of useful skills like chill and root. The insanely long cd on cantrips make them useless in long fights.

Since the nerf to the dmg from having boons up, I haven’t rune boon duration runes. Why sacrifice options of better runes/orbs over boon duration? 20% boon duration isn’t even noticeable if your not running any other boon duration runes. But like I said, it’s not about the constant boons anymore. The more boons you have up the easier you make it for other classes to rip them from you and kill you… Now what have your boons done for you?

Attunement recharge is only extended by 3 seconds. If 3 seconds makes or breaks your survivability then you should rethink your build. It’s not a bit of extra toughness. Going that far into earth and running earth sig gives you the option to run zerk/valk trinkets over needing to throw in more cavalier/knight stuff.

Lightning flash is just mobility. Running d/f you lose rtl/ce/updraft/etc… But you gain more defensive/offensive attacks to make up for the loss of mobility. 1 slow, 2 knockdowns, 2 projectile denials, a condi cure, and an invulnerability. Plus the aura you lost of dagger water 4 now you have another aura on focus fire 5. Not for the actual aura but for the added swiftness/fury.

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Posted by: Belamorte.4523

Belamorte.4523

Thanks for the great write up..I have been comming back here for months to see if there are are any updates based on the latest on the December update. Also are you guys still activly playing? Thanks again !

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Posted by: Dennis.3068

Dennis.3068

Is daphoenix still playing Guildwars? I am hoping for an update in his Website and in this thread so much. He is kinda hero for me. He really helped making D/D popular.

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Posted by: Cecilia.5179

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Don’t get your hopes up. He hasn’t made a video since the beginning of the first WvW tournament and he hasn’t posted on his website since July last year.

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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

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It’s cuz all he did was run away.


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Posted by: oZii.2864

oZii.2864

He hasn’t been on in a long time. I have him on my contacts and talked to him a few times last I know of he was traveling asia. That was a long time ago that I saw him online.

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Posted by: Gaz.1082

Gaz.1082

Lets breath some life back into this thread seeing as d/d is certainly viable again.

I used this guide to start my first and D/D has always been my fav ele setup. I started using staff pre patch as found it more reliable but post patch with the evasion on fire 3 and extra blast finisher on water 3 certainly give dagger more options now.

So what’s everyone running trait wise on their D/D ele? Currently im testing 4/6/2/2/0 with fresh air and have been having a lot of success in pve.

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

It’s cuz all he did was run away.

This. Watch his videos. I watched them for the first time this morning. He never kills anybody. He either lets his Zerg do it or runs.

That’s nothing to be revered over. He stopped playing when eles were nerfed. That was so long ago, move on people.

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

MightyMicah.7451

It’s cuz all he did was run away.

This. Watch his videos. I watched them for the first time this morning. He never kills anybody. He either lets his Zerg do it or runs.

That’s nothing to be revered over. He stopped playing when eles were nerfed. That was so long ago, move on people.

Not true. Please don’t misrepresent Daphoenix. First of all, I watched every single video of his as they came out, and there are several times where he kills groups of 5-10 people. Not trying to be rude, but it’s clear that you didn’t watch all of his videos.

Also, as he stated in his youtube comments multiple times, D/D was his Zerg chasing build. He made it so that he could distract/troll zergs of people who were all trying to kill him. I tried it myself back in the day, and it was a lot more difficult than it looked.

Finally, he had several other builds. He even posted a video once with him roaming on a fresh air Ele where he hauled butt then too.

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

I watched enough. Specifically his most viewed ones. My point stands. People here make him out to be a hero. He isn’t, and he hasn’t played in over a year.

Other people advanced D/D, and even more fleshed out the true power/utility of each skill in the set.

Fresh air is good for kicks, but I create builds that cover me in every duel, every scenerio.

So no, I don’t think I’m misrepresenting him. He runs away in his videos, and rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

MightyMicah.7451

I watched enough. Specifically his most viewed ones. My point stands. People here make him out to be a hero. He isn’t, and he hasn’t played in over a year.

Other people advanced D/D, and even more fleshed out the true power/utility of each skill in the set.

Fresh air is good for kicks, but I create builds that cover me in every duel, every scenerio.

So no, I don’t think I’m misrepresenting him. He runs away in his videos, and rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.

First of all, you haven’t watched enough. Otherwise you wouldn’t have claimed, “rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.” You also neglected the fact that his dagger build was a Zerg chasing build as I already stated.

We aren’t trying to praise him as a hero, but he should be respected because he somewhat laid the foundation for dagger tank builds to this day. Evolutionists still praise Charles Darwin for his discovery, even though that theory has since been further developed.

Lastly, discrediting fresh air does no service to you or Daphoenix. I mentioned Fresh Air as an alternative to dagger/dagger. That wasn’t the only alternative that Daphoenix recommended. As a matter of fact, in his blog, and in one of his original videos he discussed several variations of builds, as well as giving advice and helping others develop their own builds.

Try as you may to discredit Daphoenix, he was a very smart, and very good player. He knew well what the capabilities of an elementalist were and he mastered all forms of that class almost to perfection.

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Posted by: Amonatory.2453

Amonatory.2453

I watched enough. Specifically his most viewed ones. My point stands. People here make him out to be a hero. He isn’t, and he hasn’t played in over a year.

Other people advanced D/D, and even more fleshed out the true power/utility of each skill in the set.

Fresh air is good for kicks, but I create builds that cover me in every duel, every scenerio.

So no, I don’t think I’m misrepresenting him. He runs away in his videos, and rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.

First of all, you haven’t watched enough. Otherwise you wouldn’t have claimed, “rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.” You also neglected the fact that his dagger build was a Zerg chasing build as I already stated.

We aren’t trying to praise him as a hero, but he should be respected because he somewhat laid the foundation for dagger tank builds to this day. Evolutionists still praise Charles Darwin for his discovery, even though that theory has since been further developed.

Lastly, discrediting fresh air does no service to you or Daphoenix. I mentioned Fresh Air as an alternative to dagger/dagger. That wasn’t the only alternative that Daphoenix recommended. As a matter of fact, in his blog, and in one of his original videos he discussed several variations of builds, as well as giving advice and helping others develop their own builds.

Try as you may to discredit Daphoenix, he was a very smart, and very good player. He knew well what the capabilities of an elementalist were and he mastered all forms of that class almost to perfection.

You took that way too far.

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Posted by: P Fun Daddy.1208

P Fun Daddy.1208

I watched enough. Specifically his most viewed ones. My point stands. People here make him out to be a hero. He isn’t, and he hasn’t played in over a year.

Other people advanced D/D, and even more fleshed out the true power/utility of each skill in the set.

Fresh air is good for kicks, but I create builds that cover me in every duel, every scenerio.

So no, I don’t think I’m misrepresenting him. He runs away in his videos, and rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.

First of all, you haven’t watched enough. Otherwise you wouldn’t have claimed, “rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.” You also neglected the fact that his dagger build was a Zerg chasing build as I already stated.

We aren’t trying to praise him as a hero, but he should be respected because he somewhat laid the foundation for dagger tank builds to this day. Evolutionists still praise Charles Darwin for his discovery, even though that theory has since been further developed.

Lastly, discrediting fresh air does no service to you or Daphoenix. I mentioned Fresh Air as an alternative to dagger/dagger. That wasn’t the only alternative that Daphoenix recommended. As a matter of fact, in his blog, and in one of his original videos he discussed several variations of builds, as well as giving advice and helping others develop their own builds.

Try as you may to discredit Daphoenix, he was a very smart, and very good player. He knew well what the capabilities of an elementalist were and he mastered all forms of that class almost to perfection.

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

I watched enough. Specifically his most viewed ones. My point stands. People here make him out to be a hero. He isn’t, and he hasn’t played in over a year.

Other people advanced D/D, and even more fleshed out the true power/utility of each skill in the set.

Fresh air is good for kicks, but I create builds that cover me in every duel, every scenerio.

So no, I don’t think I’m misrepresenting him. He runs away in his videos, and rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.

First of all, you haven’t watched enough. Otherwise you wouldn’t have claimed, “rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.” You also neglected the fact that his dagger build was a Zerg chasing build as I already stated.

We aren’t trying to praise him as a hero, but he should be respected because he somewhat laid the foundation for dagger tank builds to this day. Evolutionists still praise Charles Darwin for his discovery, even though that theory has since been further developed.

Lastly, discrediting fresh air does no service to you or Daphoenix. I mentioned Fresh Air as an alternative to dagger/dagger. That wasn’t the only alternative that Daphoenix recommended. As a matter of fact, in his blog, and in one of his original videos he discussed several variations of builds, as well as giving advice and helping others develop their own builds.

Try as you may to discredit Daphoenix, he was a very smart, and very good player. He knew well what the capabilities of an elementalist were and he mastered all forms of that class almost to perfection.

Someone is on someone’s something.

But really. You’re taking it to a whole new level. He isn’t all that and a bag of chips. He didn’t create D/D. He used it. People used it before him. He just wrote a guide for it.

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Posted by: oZii.2864

oZii.2864

The ele forums are the only ones where dominance must be shown. Some people like daphoenix and his style, then some come in to throw some salt on him. Is this a reality show?

Actually this happens on the thief forums alot too.

There really is no need to bump his thread though. It’s linked on his wordpress and I’m sure he will find it if he ever comes back. Enough has changed now that the base of his guide is there but gear is out dated, runes outdated, sigils out dated.

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Posted by: Lostwingman.5034

Lostwingman.5034

Is this a reality show?

“Ele’s Gone Wild: Fun Times with Little Knives”

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

There really is no need to bump his thread though.

Kinda was my only point.

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Posted by: LightningBlaze.4913

LightningBlaze.4913

Jealousy is awful specially coming from someone that is using one of the builds he made popular and trying to claim is his own.

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

Jealousy is awful specially coming from someone that is using one of the builds he made popular and trying to claim is his own.

Cute. But untrue. We could do this again or you could stop trying to grind an axe where you don’t really know what you’re talking about.

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Posted by: LightningBlaze.4913

LightningBlaze.4913

Jealousy is awful specially coming from someone that is using one of the builds he made popular and trying to claim is his own.

Cute. But untrue. We could do this again or you could stop trying to grind an axe where you don’t really know what you’re talking about.

Not trying to grind any axe. I’m just stating the real fact. You run one of the builds he made popular and what’s hurting you here is he got and still getting the in-game fame you would like.

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

I do not seek fame. If I did, I would post my builds. (:O yeah I use more than one. You wouldn’t know as we haven’t met up to duel since I was learning the class still) I would make videos. (something I do for a living, so it would be very easy.) And I would post guides.

I don’t care for fame, and I don’t want people to run my builds. I feel they’re optimized and efficient. Again, you don’t know, as we haven’t met up or spoken in a year.

Surprising what can happen in a year.

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Posted by: SQLOwns.7316

SQLOwns.7316

The hard truth is…there is little practical use to play an ele anymore (other than it is fun). There is always at least 1 other class that would be better than an ele in any given scenario.

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Posted by: LightningBlaze.4913

LightningBlaze.4913

I do not seek fame. If I did, I would post my builds. (:O yeah I use more than one. You wouldn’t know as we haven’t met up to duel since I was learning the class still) I would make videos. (something I do for a living, so it would be very easy.) And I would post guides.

I don’t care for fame, and I don’t want people to run my builds. I feel they’re optimized and efficient. Again, you don’t know, as we haven’t met up or spoken in a year.

Surprising what can happen in a year.

The majority of d/d eles already run “your build”. The reason you don’t post it is because everyone knows about it. There’s nothing new you can come up with d/d seeing it is the most used weapon set for eles. Probably if you improvise with the new traits then maybe…. but knowing you, I’m sure you are still stuck with the same relevant builds just like you are with the same weapon set for over a year now.

Anyway, I won’t argue anymore towards this copycat build topic. Dapheonix shouldn’t be discredited by a newcomer that dont know how popular he made the d/d eles and how skillful he really was.

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Posted by: Cecilia.5179

Cecilia.5179

oZii read my mind. This discussion is overly dramatic like some reality show. If he comes back and starts posting stuff, discussion here is fine and dandy, but since he is not back, nor showing any sign of coming back, let it rest.

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Posted by: LightningBlaze.4913

LightningBlaze.4913

oZii read my mind. This discussion is overly dramatic like some reality show. If he comes back and starts posting stuff, discussion here is fine and dandy, but since he is not back, nor showing any sign of coming back, let it rest.

I think the reason why this thread keeps getting bumped is because many still suggest this sort of builds to newcomers. I’m guilty of this too. I always recommend his d/d builds to start with the ele because they provide the perfect learning curve to our profession.

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

MightyMicah.7451

I watched enough. Specifically his most viewed ones. My point stands. People here make him out to be a hero. He isn’t, and he hasn’t played in over a year.

Other people advanced D/D, and even more fleshed out the true power/utility of each skill in the set.

Fresh air is good for kicks, but I create builds that cover me in every duel, every scenerio.

So no, I don’t think I’m misrepresenting him. He runs away in his videos, and rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.

First of all, you haven’t watched enough. Otherwise you wouldn’t have claimed, “rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.” You also neglected the fact that his dagger build was a Zerg chasing build as I already stated.

We aren’t trying to praise him as a hero, but he should be respected because he somewhat laid the foundation for dagger tank builds to this day. Evolutionists still praise Charles Darwin for his discovery, even though that theory has since been further developed.

Lastly, discrediting fresh air does no service to you or Daphoenix. I mentioned Fresh Air as an alternative to dagger/dagger. That wasn’t the only alternative that Daphoenix recommended. As a matter of fact, in his blog, and in one of his original videos he discussed several variations of builds, as well as giving advice and helping others develop their own builds.

Try as you may to discredit Daphoenix, he was a very smart, and very good player. He knew well what the capabilities of an elementalist were and he mastered all forms of that class almost to perfection.

Someone is on someone’s something.

But really. You’re taking it to a whole new level. He isn’t all that and a bag of chips. He didn’t create D/D. He used it. People used it before him. He just wrote a guide for it.

He did far more than just, “write a guide for it.” You completely misunderstand the point I’m trying to make.

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

MightyMicah.7451

You took that way too far.

How so? Show me.

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Posted by: Graendall.4765

Graendall.4765

Ahahahaha….Why is it that so many NA D/D eles think themselves better than everyone else?

Dapphoenix got many of us into the class.Some of us stayed.Discrediting him makes you look like the fool since you have no actual proof that you could do better.You are basicly a nobody posting in a class forum,like the rest of us.Your opinions will be respected when you will respect your co-player.

Also if someone wants to ask sth in a thread that has answered a mirriad of questions about our class,then they must kittening do it.Plenty of times questions were answered by others besides Dapphoenix.

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

MightyMicah.7451

Ahahahaha….Why is it that so many NA D/D eles think themselves better than everyone else?

Dapphoenix got many of us into the class.Some of us stayed.Discrediting him makes you look like the fool since you have no actual proof that you could do better.You are basicly a nobody posting in a class forum,like the rest of us.Your opinions will be respected when you will respect your co-player.

This.

This is that new sound. Ya’ll ain’t ready.

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

I do not seek fame. If I did, I would post my builds. (:O yeah I use more than one. You wouldn’t know as we haven’t met up to duel since I was learning the class still) I would make videos. (something I do for a living, so it would be very easy.) And I would post guides.

I don’t care for fame, and I don’t want people to run my builds. I feel they’re optimized and efficient. Again, you don’t know, as we haven’t met up or spoken in a year.

Surprising what can happen in a year.

The majority of d/d eles already run “your build”. The reason you don’t post it is because everyone knows about it. There’s nothing new you can come up with d/d seeing it is the most used weapon set for eles. Probably if you improvise with the new traits then maybe…. but knowing you, I’m sure you are still stuck with the same relevant builds just like you are with the same weapon set for over a year now.

Anyway, I won’t argue anymore towards this copycat build topic. Dapheonix shouldn’t be discredited by a newcomer that dont know how popular he made the d/d eles and how skillful he really was.

Lol. I’m no newcomer. You know I’m not. You’re just grasping at straws now. I just love how you act like you know “my build.” Which is fine. You don’t.

I’m also not stuck on a weapon set. D/D is my favorite weapon set. I like battle mages. Try not to crucify me for enjoying a weapon set. I don’t insult yours.

If I were to post a guide, post videos, they’d get good views. It’s not like I haven’t learned the entirety of my weapon set in the time I’ve used it. It would have more validity than an old guide like this.

I’m quite confused as to why you have to try to start an argument with me in various threads. Keep to your own, I’ve shown I can keep to mine.

Take care, and as always, call any time for a duel <3. But you won’t.

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

I watched enough. Specifically his most viewed ones. My point stands. People here make him out to be a hero. He isn’t, and he hasn’t played in over a year.

Other people advanced D/D, and even more fleshed out the true power/utility of each skill in the set.

Fresh air is good for kicks, but I create builds that cover me in every duel, every scenerio.

So no, I don’t think I’m misrepresenting him. He runs away in his videos, and rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.

First of all, you haven’t watched enough. Otherwise you wouldn’t have claimed, “rarely if ever does he kill someone on his own with daggers.” You also neglected the fact that his dagger build was a Zerg chasing build as I already stated.

We aren’t trying to praise him as a hero, but he should be respected because he somewhat laid the foundation for dagger tank builds to this day. Evolutionists still praise Charles Darwin for his discovery, even though that theory has since been further developed.

Lastly, discrediting fresh air does no service to you or Daphoenix. I mentioned Fresh Air as an alternative to dagger/dagger. That wasn’t the only alternative that Daphoenix recommended. As a matter of fact, in his blog, and in one of his original videos he discussed several variations of builds, as well as giving advice and helping others develop their own builds.

Try as you may to discredit Daphoenix, he was a very smart, and very good player. He knew well what the capabilities of an elementalist were and he mastered all forms of that class almost to perfection.

Someone is on someone’s something.

But really. You’re taking it to a whole new level. He isn’t all that and a bag of chips. He didn’t create D/D. He used it. People used it before him. He just wrote a guide for it.

He did far more than just, “write a guide for it.” You completely misunderstand the point I’m trying to make.

I don’t. We simply disagree.

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Posted by: LightningBlaze.4913

LightningBlaze.4913

Ahahahaha….Why is it that so many NA D/D eles think themselves better than everyone else?

Dapphoenix got many of us into the class.Some of us stayed.Discrediting him makes you look like the fool since you have no actual proof that you could do better.You are basicly a nobody posting in a class forum,like the rest of us.Your opinions will be respected when you will respect your co-player.

Also if someone wants to ask sth in a thread that has answered a mirriad of questions about our class,then they must kittening do it.Plenty of times questions were answered by others besides Dapphoenix.

Exactly this ^

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

Ahahahaha….Why is it that so many NA D/D eles think themselves better than everyone else?

Dapphoenix got many of us into the class.Some of us stayed.Discrediting him makes you look like the fool since you have no actual proof that you could do better.You are basicly a nobody posting in a class forum,like the rest of us.Your opinions will be respected when you will respect your co-player.

Also if someone wants to ask sth in a thread that has answered a mirriad of questions about our class,then they must kittening do it.Plenty of times questions were answered by others besides Dapphoenix.

Exactly this ^

From a person who used to have the signature “best roaming ele on blackgate.”

Exactly nothing.

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Posted by: Tei.1704

Tei.1704

Your opinions will be respected when you will respect your co-player.

The threshold for respect is so arbitrary. Some people are so sensitive and defensive that any negativity is seen as disrespect. Every negative opinion shouldn’t have to be watered down because people need emotional babysitters.

I didn’t see Mblech say anything inflammatory or disrespectful. Sorry he has an opinion people disagree with though. Pretty sure that doesn’t make him a jealous foolish scrub or whatever random generic label you pull out of a hat though. And why people feel the need to defend a guy that probably doesn’t even play anymore is beyond me.

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Posted by: LightningBlaze.4913

LightningBlaze.4913

Ahahahaha….Why is it that so many NA D/D eles think themselves better than everyone else?

Dapphoenix got many of us into the class.Some of us stayed.Discrediting him makes you look like the fool since you have no actual proof that you could do better.You are basicly a nobody posting in a class forum,like the rest of us.Your opinions will be respected when you will respect your co-player.

Also if someone wants to ask sth in a thread that has answered a mirriad of questions about our class,then they must kittening do it.Plenty of times questions were answered by others besides Dapphoenix.

Exactly this ^

From a person who used to have the signature “best roaming ele on blackgate.”

Exactly nothing.

I changed for the better. I’m no longer the arrogant person filled with pride like you are at the moment in game. For the records, i only duel friendly, fun and skillful players like you used to be. I don’t duel arrogant, boring, jealous, and amateur players like you have become.

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

Ahahahaha….Why is it that so many NA D/D eles think themselves better than everyone else?

Dapphoenix got many of us into the class.Some of us stayed.Discrediting him makes you look like the fool since you have no actual proof that you could do better.You are basicly a nobody posting in a class forum,like the rest of us.Your opinions will be respected when you will respect your co-player.

Also if someone wants to ask sth in a thread that has answered a mirriad of questions about our class,then they must kittening do it.Plenty of times questions were answered by others besides Dapphoenix.

Exactly this ^

From a person who used to have the signature “best roaming ele on blackgate.”

Exactly nothing.

I changed for the better. I’m no longer the arrogant person filled with pride like you are at the moment in game. For the records, i only duel friendly, fun and skillful players like you used to be. I don’t duel arrogant, boring, jealous, and amateur players like you have become.

I haven’t changed, but I’m comfortable with who I am. Sorry you’re not.

I duel everybody, sorry I don’t see it your way.

I’d really enjoy being done with our back and forth. I can stop replying when you’re done making snippy comments about me.

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

MightyMicah.7451

I don’t. We simply disagree.

Perhaps this is true. Bear in mind I wasn’t the one making claims about Daphoenix doing nothing but running away.

Also, just for the record. I don’t appreciate the gay joke you made. I show respect to those who are worthy of it and I give credit where credit is due. I have no axe to grind, or bias. I just tell it how I see it.

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

I don’t. We simply disagree.

Perhaps this is true. Bear in mind I wasn’t the one making claims about Daphoenix doing nothing but running away.

Also, just for the record. I don’t appreciate the gay joke you made. I show respect to those who are worthy of it and I give credit where credit is due. I have no axe to grind, or bias. I just tell it how I see it.

I call it as I see it (running away) but I don’t make gay jokes. Sorry, you misunderstood something I said for sure.

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Posted by: Graendall.4765

Graendall.4765

Your opinions will be respected when you will respect your co-player.

The threshold for respect is so arbitrary. Some people are so sensitive and defensive that any negativity is seen as disrespect. Every negative opinion shouldn’t have to be watered down because people need emotional babysitters.

I didn’t see Mblech say anything inflammatory or disrespectful. Sorry he has an opinion people disagree with though. Pretty sure that doesn’t make him a jealous foolish scrub or whatever random generic label you pull out of a hat though. And why people feel the need to defend a guy that probably doesn’t even play anymore is beyond me.

He said that all Dapphoenix did was run away,basicly calling him a coward and a troll when its so clear that in all these situations he had the superior skill to outmaneuver and outplay several enemies.Don’t know about you but if i was Dapphoenix and i was called a troll by a random dude i would get a little offended (very little…since this is a game)….hence he is disrespectfull.

And once more this guy got me into my favorite class and the reason i keep playing this game..

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

Your opinions will be respected when you will respect your co-player.

The threshold for respect is so arbitrary. Some people are so sensitive and defensive that any negativity is seen as disrespect. Every negative opinion shouldn’t have to be watered down because people need emotional babysitters.

I didn’t see Mblech say anything inflammatory or disrespectful. Sorry he has an opinion people disagree with though. Pretty sure that doesn’t make him a jealous foolish scrub or whatever random generic label you pull out of a hat though. And why people feel the need to defend a guy that probably doesn’t even play anymore is beyond me.

He said that all Dapphoenix did was run away,basicly calling him a coward and a troll when its so clear that in all these situations he had the superior skill to outmaneuver and outplay several enemies.Don’t know about you but if i was Dapphoenix and i was called a troll by a random dude i would get a little offended (very little…since this is a game)….hence he is disrespectfull.

And once more this guy got me into my favorite class and the reason i keep playing this game..

Except I didn’t use those terms. You did. You act like I’m not allowed to form an opinion.

My opinion might not be popular, but it’s valid.

Also, it doesn’t take skill to run full soldiers, hit armor of earth, hit mist form, and maneuver through zergs. The good ones refuse to focus on one person anyways.

I can run right beside zergs like Agg and they won’t touch me usually because it’s not worth it to hit one person.

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Posted by: Kyon.9735

Kyon.9735

Regardless if he was able to kill people or not, it was Daphoenix who made D/D famous and we can at least credit him that. We can even say that most D/D builds today originated from his build.

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Posted by: SonOfKrypton.4357

SonOfKrypton.4357

Regardless if he was able to kill people or not, it was Daphoenix who made D/D famous and we can at least credit him that. We can even say that most D/D builds today originated from his build.

Yes, if I use the weapon set Dagger/Dagger my build originated from his. He was probably the only Elementalist to use Dagger/Dagger before it became really popular.

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Posted by: Tei.1704

Tei.1704

He said that all Dapphoenix did was run away,basicly calling him a coward and a troll when its so clear that in all these situations he had the superior skill to outmaneuver and outplay several enemies.Don’t know about you but if i was Dapphoenix and i was called a troll by a random dude i would get a little offended (very little…since this is a game)….hence he is disrespectfull.

And once more this guy got me into my favorite class and the reason i keep playing this game..

Mblech already covered how you just put words in his mouth.

Everybody runs away sometimes. It’s not a good sign when people take it as an insult.
Running from superior numbers doesn’t make you a coward.

If you don’t want people to think you run away a lot, you shouldn’t post lots of videos that show you running away. If there are people out there that think dapheonix runs away too much, it’s his own fault.

Also, outmaneuvering people isn’t always a matter of skill. First, enemies could be using builds with very poor mobility. Second, I recall him using a build that made him immune to snares at one point. Wow bro, how you outmaneuver guardians, necros and bow rangers with 98% reduced snare duration?! That type of stuff is hardly different from your typical cheese greatsword warrior, which rightfully don’t get any props for their skills.

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Posted by: LightningBlaze.4913

LightningBlaze.4913

The builds he made popular became the standard for most of d/d builds nowadays. Nex has no voice into this since according to him he didn’t even play during the god mode like meta ele used to have…. all thanks to Daphoenix guidelines.

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Posted by: Sephorai.3827

Sephorai.3827

Why can’t we all be friends :c

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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

FrownyClown.8402

Not to discredit daphenix but id prob beat him in a duel. He was good at evading. Probably better than anyone I’ve seen. He didn’t actually create the build. He popularized it. No one could do what he did but now he is obsolete.


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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

Nope, I didn’t play ele during the God-Era for eles. Proud of it too.

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Posted by: Dolores.5471

Dolores.5471

Not to discredit daphenix but id prob beat him in a duel. He was good at evading. Probably better than anyone I’ve seen. He didn’t actually create the build. He popularized it. No one could do what he did but now he is obsolete.

I agree he was not the creator of d/d, as no one really was. But saying that he is obsolete seems a little contradictory when we have people coming to this bilion years old thread just to throw shade at him. His build might be outdated yes, but the position he assumed in the ele community, due to all the attention he gathered at the time, is to this day disputed, this discussion is a proof of it. Might be one of the reasons the ele forums seem like an endless episode of The Real Housewives of name your favorite.

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

Nope, I didn’t play ele during the God-Era for eles. Proud of it too.

Exactly, that’s why your ignorant self has no place in discrediting someone that was considered very skillful and not an amateur like you.

Why defend him so adamantly? I see his videos. I read his thread this morning. There’s nothing awe inspiring here.

I guarantee I’d beat this guy in a duel, but I don’t really care about that. I just feel like people should let this outdated thread die, and stop referring to “dapheonix” stuff to new people. Newbies don’t know him.

It’s nonsensical really. And to call me an amateur is funny. I was an amateur when we dueled over a year ago, and I still broke even with you. What’s that say about you.

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