Guild Wars 2

I usually play D/D in sPvP(yea, I know it’s not exactly ideal), but lately I’ve been trying D/F. It’s a lot of fun, even if the damage is sorta lacking and the Fire spells are garbage.

Anyway, I asked my friend to 1v1 me just to test it out.(I’d like to point out that neither of us are that great; we mostly just play very casual PvP, but highly prefer it over WvW zerg-fests) I had boon duration runes, Ether Renewal, 30 Water/30 Arcana, and 3x Cantrips since I had D/D equipped previously and didn’t know what to change it to, and I went up against his S/D burst Ele because he rarely plays Elementalist and kinda wanted to try it out. I died the first time, then slowly got the hang of it and started actually killing him and surviving the burst.

I then tell him to switch to his Necro main so I could see how I could handle a Condi Necro. We were pretty much locked. I wouldn’t die and neither would he. Took me a few minutes of constant fighting, but I finally downed him. He did the same to me when I messed up my rotation though.

At this point, I’m starting to really like D/F as I had some trouble dealing with Condi Necros before, but then I told my friend to try out his Warrior against me. Now, my friend doesn’t really run meta builds on his Warrior, he kinda does his own thing, but I told him to run HamBow with Endure Pain and Healing Signet. Much like his Necro, he had a lot of trouble actually killing me, but this time, he was at 100% health nearly all the time. What exactly can I do? I tried just dumping all my attacks, not caring too much about his attacks(outside of the CC), and I could still barely knock him below 75%. I actually told him to stand still so I could just attack and it was still a very slow death.

Now, I’m not saying Warrior is OP or anything, but after the duel, my friend tells me that he’s not specced for damage(I was at like 40% health most of the time, with 19k health as my total) and that he actually forgot to put runes and sigils of his armor and weapons. That’s kind of scary to me. What I’d really like to know is the runes and utilities I can use to increase my damage a tad bit as the only cantrip I truly relied on was Cleansing Fire or whether D/F just simply isn’t fit for casual PvP.(Or at least not 1v1)

…………By dying.

Dagger focus cant kill a warrior. When they switch to bow dodge the immobalize then strafe behind them with air auto until they switch to hammer. Dodge the stuns. They key is to focus might stacking, hit them with a drake breath that ticks for over 400 a second, land fire 5 (dagger dagger) when its up and then keep the farthest range you can and spam lightning auto. Long fight but they will go down. In pvp you need to have decent dps. Try valk trinket with zerker jewel. For runes i like ranger. Ogre is nice too.

FrownyClown.8402:

Dagger focus cant kill a warrior. When they switch to bow dodge the immobalize then strafe behind them with air auto until they switch to hammer. Dodge the stuns. They key is to focus might stacking, hit them with a drake breath that ticks for over 400 a second, land fire 5 (dagger dagger) when its up and then keep the farthest range you can and spam lightning auto. Long fight but they will go down. In pvp you need to have decent dps. Try valk trinket with zerker jewel. For runes i like ranger. Ogre is nice too.

Hmm, alright. So if I use D/F, it’s more of a “Tank till team arrives or run away” sort of deal? Bleh. Guess I’ll go back to D/D and try to 1v1 my friend again and see how it goes.
Thanks for the info.

I think the problem is you are using soldier’s amulet since the bulk of d/f dps comes from spamming lightingwhip.

kite and burst is all you need.

LightningBlaze.4913:

kite and burst is all you need.

if they using that broken healing signet and 3 stances ( balance ,berzerk and endure pain) , just run .

You run to your Eng and Thief buddies.

Man,its one of the longer fights.The problem is if the warrior is even slightly skilled and by slightly i mean generaly having his hammer stuns/knockbacks keybinded where he can use them in quick succesion,your chances at winning diminish.Cause you gotta run away from that hammer chain,you got to dodge these arrow shots and everytime he throws you off him he is regenerating at a very fast pace.

I think you have to surprise them from the very beggining or at a certain point during the duel.But good warriors…its so kittening difficult.

If you are playing pvp, you can take them down in about 3 mins if you outplay them hard. At that length of time, it really depends on how fast your team is to come help. If you have more thieves, go ahead and engage (or if you already have the point), as you will probably get an outnumbered fight sooner rather than later. If you don’t, just go somewhere else.

That being said, there isn’t a lot of good you can do for your team playing d/f. You might as well just play a warrior. They do what you are trying to do, but better by far.

In all honestly, after playing a ton of pvp lately, I can conclude that you should just always play something else, as ele has no easy fights and a few hard-counters. Other classes have a few easy fights and usually no hard-counters.

When it comes to warrior… I always make sure I’m with atleast 1 other person XD
but I make sure I stay away for atleast 10 seconds, kite around basically & use lightning to blind him & earth to immobilize him, then freeze him (or her) & then fire it up – but I have to go through all attunements in order to take them down because of CD’s
I use d/f usually (bc they tend to have longbows) & swirling winds has saved my life many times as well as obsidian flesh . If I do use d/d then I basically kite around for a few seconds then use air’s & earth’s knockbacks

LightningBlaze.4913:

kite and burst is all you need.

Kite? what if they are running Greatsword? or Longbow?
Burst? what if they are using HS and/or Damage immunity?

Good luck kitting a class that has better mobility than us.
Good luck kitting a class that has better defence than us

In all honesty … I play a ele since the start and just begin to play a warrior on spvp a few weeks ago and i just can’t imagine myself losing to a ele on spvp with my warrior.

And i love to be prove wrong on that, lets just hope for the next patch to fix some major issues.

you can beat warriors that aren’t using healing sig pretty easily. The problem is healing sig is passive and has no counterplay and can’t be interrupted. You absolutely will not 1 shot a warrior no matter what build you use. they have way too much health. When they get low, they’ll always run away and regen back to full because of that OP signet. Just laugh at them when they run, you’ve essentially won because you outplayed them and forced them to run away like cowards.

If they are running Hammer…and trust me most of them do You will just be stunned every 10 seconds at the very least until you are dead. Armor of Earth is pretty much all we have to counter that and even that doesnt last very long

Hammer warriors are the easiest to beat if you are using a range weapon. An ele player that dies by a thief that spams heartseeker on 1v1 will pretty much get defeated by anything. Based on his negative gameplay and experience, he will consider the profession as trash and try to influence others. I’m tired of these type of amateur players.

In Spvp it’s impossible to beat a warrior on an ele. I have not once been threatened by an ele when I play a warrior, the only class I feel concerned facing on my warrior is another warrior.

Unless the warrior is absolutely terrible.

The worst case scenario for a warrior is having to run away to regen life.

Lightning blaze believes he can beat absolutely everyone in the game and anyone who believes other classes are somehow imbalanced are just amateurs. Despite the common consensus that warriors are just extremely strong at the moment as reflected by their high presence in pvp and WvW.

Hynoris.3684:

In all honesty … I play a ele since the start and just begin to play a warrior on spvp a few weeks ago and i just can’t imagine myself losing to a ele on spvp with my warrior.

And i love to be prove wrong on that, lets just hope for the next patch to fix some major issues.

After playing other classes in PvP with the skill/reaction times learned on my Ele, I can’t imagine losing to an equally-skilled Ele either. Yeah maybe if they catch me by surprise while I’m busy fighting, but no way in a 1v1.

LightningBlaze.4913:

Hammer warriors are the easiest to beat if you are using a range weapon. An ele player that dies by a thief that spams heartseeker on 1v1 will pretty much get defeated by anything. Based on his negative gameplay and experience, he will consider the profession as trash and try to influence others. I’m tired of these type of amateur players.

Now, if only we could change weapon in combat…
As for Thief, that HS spam will likely come after doing insane damage from Backstab. Even with 1,700 Toughness i have still taken more than 12,000 damage in one hit. that being more than 70% of my health….

On Thieves:
Using Dagger, it’s pretty hard to fight thieves. If you go with lots of offensive stats, you’ll be as squishy as hell. If you go hybrid/defensive, you will lack the burst damage. Thieves can easily go to stealth and WILL go to stealth (if they are decent) if they take too much damage so IMO you can’t kill them if you don’t burst them. They’ll just go back in stealth and try to burst you again.

On Scepter, just try your best to burst them before they burst you which is a lot harder than it sounds. You can take prolonged fights if you’re using focus, just be sure to use Obsidian Flesh wisely.There will be kitten y thieves though who will chase you like a madman while out of stealth. For these types, just drop Phoenix behind you then burst with air skills.

Warriors PvP:
You can’t burst a decent warrior without using scepter/dagger. Burst him before he has a chance to pop endure pain. Prolonged fights are losing battles too. I’ve played 1v1s with a lot of “decent” warriors, I win some, I lose most.

My most memorable fight was against a Hammer + Axe/Shield Warrior. I blinded and dodged all of his hammer CCs and was winning with 90% HP while he had 20% left. I was prepping to burst him with melee Phoenix (hits 3x) so I let him get close but I got caught up with his Bull’s Charge + Eviscerate + Shield Bash then switch to hammer. He took out 90% of my HP in 3 seconds lol.

You dont, there saved you a lot of trouble and time wasting

My way is GoEP in water, air or earth, an elite Air Elemental and a lesser Water elemental. Start off with some stoning, hit them a few times, and when they think they’re gonna burst you, cast a Meteor Shower at your location. If they’re not gonna stand in it and go down, apply more pressure and add some Ice Spikes and Eruptions to keep them moving. Either they get out, or they ignore it, falsely assuming it’ll not deal much damage. If you can keep them moving, you’ve got the battle won because you can out dps them at range. If they don’t back off, they’ll get major damage.

Lightningblaze do you even play spvp? or just wvw? because it’s completely different when you can’t instagib them in 2 air rotations.

Warriors are a extremely tough matchup especially if you aren’t using a ranged weapon.

From a guy who kinda mains warrior in top 100team q And is now trying to l2p ele again.
If the warrior is playing hambow with zerker its doable as long as you dont get stuck in a pindown rotation and evade and “kite” him. If he is soldiers.. run, its a pointless matchup and especially so if you run “tanky”. If he is mace/sword+longbow hybrid.. either hope you can burst h down and blind his impales/pindowns and do not get interrupted. If he lands pindown+impale and fighting for a node.. just flee and hope you dont die from the insane comdi pressure.

I hat e typing on phones

I wont use the word “good”, because someone who play a broken op build warrior or play thief can’t be good, but you can’t kill a warrior in spvp who use an op build AND who know how to dodge (most don’t, they are average at that) while using D/F, because you can’t outdmg the regen, but you wont die either.
In www it’s different, 1vs1 against a warrior take 30sec to 2min max if they don’t run.

Dont even bother with warriors 1v1. You can win if they suck and are using a bad build. But on even ground the ele class is not designed to win a 1v1.