Guild Wars 2

“An Elementalist can cast Fire Wall next to an opponent, and then switch to Water attunement, which freezes all enemies around him. Using the concussive force of Water Trident, he can slam his frozen enemy into the Fire Wall, leaving him to roast in the flames.”

Was this even possible?

I believe this refers to an old iteration of the GW2 skill system where you could chain skills to create various combos with different effects. This was largely replaced by the current skill system with fields and finishers.

The quote is from “Guild Wars 2 Design Manifesto” by Mike O’Brien on April 27, 2010.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-wars-2-design-manifesto/

It made playing an elementalist seems really fun.

Why did they change from the Manifesto?

I wish Water Trident had a knockback/knockdown like in GW1

Adastra.9821:

I believe this refers to an old iteration of the GW2 skill system where you could chain skills to create various combos with different effects. This was largely replaced by the current skill system with fields and finishers.

There are only two affects from the scenario described that didn’t make it to live, on-attunement affects were severely nerfed, and water trident no longer has a knockback.

I wish this could still happen. Freezing everything around me sounds fun. I’d trade that for healing when attuning to water. But only if it was like the unbreakable freeze from icebow. Swap to water, then quickly swap to earth and churning earth them while they’re helpless and cant dodge it.

i like how on the gameplay previews meteor shower knocks down foes.. >_> hilarious

cheshirefox.7026:

i like how on the gameplay previews meteor shower knocks down foes.. >_> hilarious

That was also true in beta, back before the developers decided that Eles having a lot of abilities meant that only half of them should actually be possible to HIT anything with.

cheshirefox.7026:

i like how on the gameplay previews meteor shower knocks down foes.. >_> hilarious

I miss that so much. This is the only game i’ve ever played where the beta was actually better than the finished product. How i miss those beta weekends of playing my ele.

Nikkinella.8254:

cheshirefox.7026:

i like how on the gameplay previews meteor shower knocks down foes.. >_> hilarious

I miss that so much. This is the only game i’ve ever played where the beta was actually better than the finished product. How i miss those beta weekends of playing my ele.

You’ve just expressed exactly my feelings m8. Those were great times, really. I was actually excited before every beta weekend like never before. Now I fear every patch coming…..

STRanger.5120:

Nikkinella.8254:

cheshirefox.7026:

i like how on the gameplay previews meteor shower knocks down foes.. >_> hilarious

I miss that so much. This is the only game i’ve ever played where the beta was actually better than the finished product. How i miss those beta weekends of playing my ele.

You’ve just expressed exactly my feelings m8. Those were great times, really. I was actually excited before every beta weekend like never before. Now I fear every patch coming…..

Yes to all of the above. I wonder how many of us would have stuck to our Ele’s if it wasn’t for the golden age of beta?

MarzAttakz.9608:

STRanger.5120:

Nikkinella.8254:

cheshirefox.7026:

i like how on the gameplay previews meteor shower knocks down foes.. >_> hilarious

I miss that so much. This is the only game i’ve ever played where the beta was actually better than the finished product. How i miss those beta weekends of playing my ele.

You’ve just expressed exactly my feelings m8. Those were great times, really. I was actually excited before every beta weekend like never before. Now I fear every patch coming…..

Yes to all of the above. I wonder how many of us would have stuck to our Ele’s if it wasn’t for the golden age of beta?

Remember the old Meteor shower graphics? Or the originally instended attunement change animation? Things like these are making me really sad nowadays….

Lord of Rings.5371:

The quote is from “Guild Wars 2 Design Manifesto” by Mike O’Brien on April 27, 2010.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-wars-2-design-manifesto/

It made playing an elementalist seems really fun.

Why did they change from the Manifesto?

They changed more than the Ele’s skills.

The Enviromental weapons are mostly an afterthought. How many people use an oakhearts branch against it? How about the jar of bees?

One of the best parts of it is:

“GW2 doesn’t fall into the traps of traditional MMORPGs. It doesn’t suck your life away and force you onto a grinding treadmill; it doesn’t make you spend hours preparing to have fun rather than just having fun; and of course, it doesn’t have a monthly fee.”

• Crafting System
• Ascended Armor
• Lengendaries
• Dungeon Armor

… remember Guild Wars 2 is not a grinding treadmill after your 5th speed run through the same dungeon.

I think more then the Elementalist has strayed from the Manifesto.

Shadowfall.6543:

Lord of Rings.5371:

The quote is from “Guild Wars 2 Design Manifesto” by Mike O’Brien on April 27, 2010.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-wars-2-design-manifesto/

It made playing an elementalist seems really fun.

Why did they change from the Manifesto?

They changed more than the Ele’s skills.

The Enviromental weapons are mostly an afterthought. How many people use an oakhearts branch against it? How about the jar of bees?

One of the best parts of it is:

“GW2 doesn’t fall into the traps of traditional MMORPGs. It doesn’t suck your life away and force you onto a grinding treadmill; it doesn’t make you spend hours preparing to have fun rather than just having fun; and of course, it doesn’t have a monthly fee.”

• Crafting System
• Ascended Armor
• Lengendaries
• Dungeon Armor

… remember Guild Wars 2 is not a grinding treadmill after your 5th speed run through the same dungeon.

I think more then the Elementalist has strayed from the Manifesto.

Well there is the part where you don’t have to do:

• Crafting System
• Ascended Armor
• Lengendaries
• Dungeon Armor

in order to jump right in and have fun. I got to 80 on my first toon without touching crafting. I was able to participate in wvw, dungeons, general pve, and mini games with naught but a set of yellows I collected and bought off the TP for a rough total of 2g which I had earned along the way to 80. It wasn’t long before I had enough gold, karma, and dungeon tokens to get a full set of exotics from the TP, Orr vendors, and dungeon merchants.

Sure I did some dungeons and got some dungeon armor, but it wasn’t much of a grind given the 2 other easy sources of exotic armor. In fact nowadays when I make a new 80, I can afford a full set of karma armor right away. As for ascended armor, sure I suppose you need that for fractals, but only high level fractals. Not to mention fractals is one dungeon which is one small part of the game. There are plenty of other activities, making fractals entirely optional.

And point me to the part of the game that requires 100% you need a legendary in order to participate.

Xenon.4537:

Well there is the part where you don’t have to do:

• Crafting System
• Ascended Armor
• Lengendaries
• Dungeon Armor

in order to jump right in and have fun. I got to 80 on my first toon without touching crafting. I was able to participate in wvw, dungeons, general pve, and mini games with naught but a set of yellows I collected and bought off the TP for a rough total of 2g which I had earned along the way to 80. It wasn’t long before I had enough gold, karma, and dungeon tokens to get a full set of exotics from the TP, Orr vendors, and dungeon merchants.

Sure I did some dungeons and got some dungeon armor, but it wasn’t much of a grind given the 2 other easy sources of exotic armor. In fact nowadays when I make a new 80, I can afford a full set of karma armor right away. As for ascended armor, sure I suppose you need that for fractals, but only high level fractals. Not to mention fractals is one dungeon which is one small part of the game. There are plenty of other activities, making fractals entirely optional.

And point me to the part of the game that requires 100% you need a legendary in order to participate.

Getting to 80 is not a huge grind (I rather enjoyed the climb), but now that you are at level 80 what are doing? Guild Wars 2 expects you will get to level 80 with such a flat leveling curve. Also all of the skills and traits are balanced for 80 (i.e. take PVP and WvW for example – they scale you to level 80, there are no lower level PVP).

After you hit 80, there are not a lot of additional ways to develop your character. They have a CDI right now on progression. See here

I am not the only person who thinks GW2 has gotten very grind heavy.

When I decided to stop playing one of the primary motivations was a sense of them betraying their original manifesto. A couple of other motivations were their (Arenanet) utter disdain for the community, the pride and stubborness to never admit to making mistakes and rectifying them and also the way they handled the Elementalist profession.

For 9 months not clicking on my gw2.exe shortcut or spending another cent to support them I came back to the game for three reasons…

1) I missed my old guild mates
2) I loved the Elementalist class
3) WvW being an amazing pvp mode

ArenaNet have control over 2/3 reasons why I came back to their game yet fail to realise the potential of WvW or nurture their classes. I’m “happy” to have come back but I’m still extremely bitter and cynical towards the company.