Guild Wars 2

I’m looking for some advice on how to take down really good d/d or s/d valk. amulet elementalist as a non-trap ranger. I have 2100 power, 45% crit more than half the battle, 22000 health and 1650 toughness. I can beat any other class or know how to(minus jumped by backstab theif, but thats everyone). These ele’s I can’t even come close (not a pug or decent ele, I’m talking strong ele’s about this skill level maybe a touch less http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deqScGtA01U ). I even manage to dodge a few combo’s drag the fight into 1 min, use all my burst (8 seconds of quickness total through he fight) and they may be at half when the stomp me….. How do you interrupt the heal it seems to go off so fast I don’t have time to interrupt (and most the time stability is up during this moment anyways). One issue seems to be the speed at which they travel around/through me that I can’t ever get sustained damage on them at times and my pet is always kitted. IF it were not on a point that I had to maintain it would be a little better since I could kite better, but given the tight space it’s much harder.

Trap rangers can beat me easily especially with the root elite since almost none of my skills seem to hit it apart from skills I shouldn’t be wasting. Get kited to death without even scratching a good one. You need sufficient sustained DPS and kiting ability and you’ll be able to destroy an ele. If you can force them into attunements they don’t want to be in and keep them crippled preventing burning speed it’s basically game over.

I know you said “without traps”, however why would you expect to beat an eles best build without the rangers best build? If you insist, kite, knock back and the root elite. Cripple them as much as possible, they’ll waste cantrips and destroy their entire rotation trying to remove it. Knock them back once they finally removed it and run up to you (makes me cry), dodge backwards (trait for dodges, sigil of energy is OP) every time they try to come in on you (magnetic grasp namely but also burning speed if you couldn’t get far enough away) and keep machine gunning. Once they’ve wasted their cantrips is the time to root them. This is basically a death sentence. Stuck for full duration being attacked by root, pet and the ranger. IMO rangers are one of the best ele counters. I normally dominate most classes.

What people refuse to do against eles is l2p. The only way for most eles to remove condi is going to water. If I’m crippled or chilled in fire and being kited, I can’t use this attunement and have to throw it on cooldown for nothing, changing to water just to try to survive. Then i’ll have to do random things (cc chains are useless in 1vs1 since they do low damage, the ele is just delaying for fire) until fires back up. If you applied the pressure during this 9+ second interval, they may not even get to use it and will have to keep spamming water before just dying pathetically. Abuse their attunement mechanic, the cooldowns are a huge limitation.

BTW the video you posted, at 3:10 he gets destroyed by a kiting mesmer. Doesn’t even deal damage. Rangers can do this too.

Initial combo is fairly easy to avoid. After the pug train latched onto the D/D craze it’s actually kind of annoying how many people started learning how to avoid the RtL/Updraft starter. Fire combo is easy to avoid at least partially due to how Fire Grab works. Magnetic Grab generally doesn’t do anything unless you’re walking in a completely straight line on a flat surface.

I haven’t lost to a ranger yet, though I haven’t soloed too many rangers so that doesn’t say much. The few who I have solo’ed, the ones who give me the most trouble immobilized / snared me every few seconds. As a D/D cantrip bunker build I have a kittenload of removals, but having to burn them in the first 20 seconds does force me to show my cards earlier than I would like. Thing I don’t know is about ranger damage since even with debuffs I don’t really go down fast enough to be in danger, though that’s probably due to not having fought the stronger rangers.

Rangers built to be at range are going to have a difficult time as d/d elementalists are built to be in your face and stick there like glue.

Any knockbacks, immobilizations or cripples on you or pet can do. Use up your pet ability fairly fast because he’ll kill it just by being close.

He has two great closers:

RTL every 15 seconds, you need to dodge that, immob and otherwise keep him at range with cripples and kiting. Can see it coming a mile away, big electric spark thing

Magnetic grasp is a tricky one, it brings him to you and roots you from 900 range, if you get hit with it you have some pain coming. Its bugged and often doesnt work but if it does its a good time to knockback/interrupt or condition cure/dodge, this will mess up his rotation bad.

If you keep him at range you are winning.

Ron Burgundy.5843:

BTW the video you posted, at 3:10 he gets destroyed by a kiting mesmer. Doesn’t even deal damage. Rangers can do this too.

The ele in the video fights like a noob.

Lmao I need help beating rangers with my ele too.

I dont know how they don’t know how to fight us
Or may be i dont know how to kill ya :P{

Fuzzion.2504:

Ron Burgundy.5843:

BTW the video you posted, at 3:10 he gets destroyed by a kiting mesmer. Doesn’t even deal damage. Rangers can do this too.

The ele in the video fights like a noob.

No. He just got kited thus looking like a noob. You’d have been destroyed.

-.- this is sooo silly….

its like "how do i beat a good ranger with a staff nuker build without using any root abilities? " -.-

basicly.. YOU DON’T!!…. can you guess why? becouse you are removing the skills which is designed for you to be able to touch them in that build -.-

basicly.. YOU DON’T!!…. can you guess why? becouse you are removing the skills which is designed for you to be able to touch them in that build -.-

I dont know how they don’t know how to fight us
Or may be i dont know how to kill ya :P{

becouse they are REALLY REALLY REALLY kittening stupid(or ofc fighting some one WAY out of their league) and they are soo used to ele being total roflstomp easy mode to kill that they think they are super pro and OFC they should be able to kill a ele in any build they make even if the ele is in the counter build to it and they are too stupid to use dodge correctly -.-
these “want to nerf ele” threads should seriously be bannable since its completely out of any realistic context and so far from any truth its hurtfull for the game..