How will we survive conditions now?

How will we survive conditions now?

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Posted by: Jabberwock.9014

Jabberwock.9014

Elementalists have always been very vulnerable to condition stacking due to our pitiful hp pool and reliance on heals (hampered by poison), but now everything is stacking against us. There is an entire new condition (torment) which will damage us immensely (since eles MUST run to survive) and make cleansing other conditions that much harder, cleansing fire has lost stunbreaker status rendering it much less versatile, mist form has already been nerfed to disallow channeling ether renewal, water condition removal traits have been nerfed, and our boons are constantly converted to conditions by corrupt boon… how in the hell are we supposed to survive against a necro or engineer (much less more than one) now?

Even though we have new possible glass canon builds we will now still be forced to run full water just to cleanse conditions and give us more hp to survive the coming condition apocalypse, especially with cleansing fire out of the running (a skill which used to allow decent condition removal for glass canon builds). We don’t have many escape mechanisms now with rtl and lightning flash nerfs, so we’ll be eating much more conditions than mesmers and thiefs who for some reason have retained their ridiculous escape and diversion capabilities despite better health pool and armor class respectively.

I just have a very bad feeling about our place in the new meta, and feel like we may end up as the punching bags for the forseeable since our primary survival tools (healing+condition removal+escape) have been consistently nerfed and countered into oblivion, all while retaining our stupidly low hp pool/armor.

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Posted by: DiogoSilva.7089

DiogoSilva.7089

Rock Solid with good investment in boon duration should allow you to use Ether Renewal without being interrupted. Also, Cleansing Fire would have a shorter cooldown, which would allow us to remove conditions more often.

Also, the s/d burst builds have phoenix, cleansing water, and possibly points in water or evasive arcana.

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Posted by: oZii.2864

oZii.2864

You are kidding me right? Did you read the leaked notes or just overreact?

The classes that have torment that we assume right now are.

Mesmer – its on the scepter BLOCK
Necro – Its on Death Shroud
Thief – Its on Skale Venom

The Mesmer Block can be dodge after you attack them. They would have to go heavy condi anyway to get some mileage out of it. It also has a obvious animation you know the Mesmer holds his scepter up in the air.

Necro is on death shroud nuff said

Thief its on Skale venom which is 3 attacks. Most likely the thieves that will use this are P/D thieves o.O I don’t know I don’t have a problem with P/D thieves.

Its not like torment will be running Rampant around the game if we go by the leaked notes 3 classes are getting and its not going on a auto attack.

[Good Fights]Sinndicate{Ele}Sinactic{Engineer}
Sinnastor{Warrior}Sinnacle{Mesmer}Sintacs
{Thief}

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Posted by: emikochan.8504

emikochan.8504

oZii crits Jabberwock’s wall of text with logic, it’s super effective.

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Posted by: Razor.6392

Razor.6392

wtf is torment…

Level 60 pvp
Ele & thief main (full ascended)
Down with the braindead faceroll classes.