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Posted by: Justin.5231

Justin.5231

Would anyone be able to give me any general tips? I have no clue what I’m dong wrong..
I tried fighting a necro in WvW, and couldn’t really do much, but then two more people came and completely demolished me

I’ve seen vids of people that do great with d/d..
I know the typical rotation.. Im just not sure if its bc I dont have exotics or what.. Im scared to waste the laurels just to find out that it doesnt help with anything..

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Posted by: Caffynated.5713

Caffynated.5713

Condi necro is disgustingly overpowered and has always been a soft counter to ele. Throw in a year worth of nonstop nerfing to eles coupled with huge necro buffs, and necro has become a hard counter.

On the bright side, if you run away early enough necros can’t catch you.

“We recognize that the changes to [ele] will essentially remove it from play. In the future,
we may consider whether or not there is an incarnation of [ele] that would be viable
but balanced. For now, we do not expect it to see serious use.” – ANet

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Posted by: Treborlavok.3504

Treborlavok.3504

scepter/focus helps a lot, running ER as well.

The ranged stuns and knockdowns on focus help you stay away from the necro and just burst him down with a FA scepter build.

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Posted by: Quakeman.9378

Quakeman.9378

Depends completely on what build you’re running. Although people say 0/10/0/30/30 isn’t viable, they’re completely wrong and imho it’s the best setup. Depending on your gears you still get some insane damage, you’re not overly squishy, and have a nice source of condition removal. I have no trouble fighting necros, as you just burst them down. Dat might stacking. On a side note, from my experience at least you can pretty easily 2v1 with this build (depending of course), anything higher than that depends on how good you are. And if you do believe you’re gonna die, most of the time you can get away pretty kitten well. Ele takes A LOT of practice so you’re going to die at first, but once you get the hang of it: mm mm good.

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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

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We all sucked at first man. I found old clips of me back in febuary of last year and I could barely kill a ranger.


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Posted by: Brigg.3961

Brigg.3961

Also, keep in mind that the videos folks put up can showcase some awesome skills and fights… however, you will hardly ever see a montage that includes when they die. Just because you watch a 10 minute video of an ele stomping on a bunch of bad guys, doesn’t mean that he/she wasn’t harmed in the making of said video

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Posted by: Caffynated.5713

Caffynated.5713

You’re not going to burst down a competent necro with 25k health + life force and spectral armor. My necro can face tank an entire earth → air → double arcane burst in death shroud and my life force will go UP.

“We recognize that the changes to [ele] will essentially remove it from play. In the future,
we may consider whether or not there is an incarnation of [ele] that would be viable
but balanced. For now, we do not expect it to see serious use.” – ANet

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Posted by: Duran.3196

Duran.3196

Although people say 0/10/0/30/30 isn’t viable, they’re completely wrong and imho it’s the best setup.

Against Condition Builds in fact it is not, and especially not against condition necros that are at least average, if you not just try to avoid encounters with them.

Till u stacked your might you already got every condition he has on you with several stacks, if you have to start removing conditions you know your fight is already lost.

Against a condition spec a survivability spec almost always loses, cause the longer the duration of the fight the stronger the condition spec gets.
If the fight lasts >5s the condition build usually wins

Not to mention condition builds are lazy builds often you can see this in the playstyle of necros, some dont even bother to dodge (okay against a full bunker elementalist i wouldnt bother dodging as well, cause his attacks dont even itch)

Best way to deal with condition builds and thieves (stealth thieves) is to kill them before they realize what just happened, or at least burst em zu 10 or 20% percent.

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Posted by: Quakeman.9378

Quakeman.9378

Although people say 0/10/0/30/30 isn’t viable, they’re completely wrong and imho it’s the best setup.

Against Condition Builds in fact it is not, and especially not against condition necros that are at least average, if you not just try to avoid encounters with them.

Till u stacked your might you already got every condition he has on you with several stacks, if you have to start removing conditions you know your fight is already lost.

Against a condition spec a survivability spec almost always loses, cause the longer the duration of the fight the stronger the condition spec gets.
If the fight lasts >5s the condition build usually wins

Not to mention condition builds are lazy builds often you can see this in the playstyle of necros, some dont even bother to dodge (okay against a full bunker elementalist i wouldnt bother dodging as well, cause his attacks dont even itch)

Best way to deal with condition builds and thieves (stealth thieves) is to kill them before they realize what just happened, or at least burst em zu 10 or 20% percent.

Yeah condition necros can be iffy, but more often than not I’ll end up killing them. I didn’t say this before but I do carry a nice 70% crit damage on my ele, so my attacks don’t “itch.” But yes, I don’t run 0-10-0-20-30 specifically for necros, it’s just imo better overall. I do run 0-20-0-10-30 sometimes depending on who I’m running with.

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Posted by: DeShadowWolf.6854

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I do run 0-20-0-10-30 sometimes depending on who I’m running with.

You look to be missing about 10 trait points there.

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Posted by: Quakeman.9378

Quakeman.9378

I do run 0-20-0-10-30 sometimes depending on who I’m running with.

You look to be missing about 10 trait points there.

Typed it in wrong ty. Meant 0-20-0-20-30

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Posted by: Justin.5231

Justin.5231

Quakeman, what are your traits for the 20,20,30 setup? I know the typical setups for 10,30,30 but not that one.

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Posted by: Quakeman.9378

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Quakeman, what are your traits for the 20,20,30 setup? I know the typical setups for 10,30,30 but not that one.

Okay so for the 0-20-0-20-30 setup I use the following traits:
air- VI (or I but I find the 20% added dmg to those under 33% gives more dps, and you already get enough fury), X
Water- V,IX
Arcane- same as 10,30,30

This setup is okay and all but still not my favorite. I’m experimenting with 0,0,20,20,30 right now with water and arcane being the same as b4, but in earth I take VI and VIII. THe stability on earth attunement helps A LOT (especially against stun wars), and the additional 10% dmg is on all the time b/c as D/D eles our skills are close range.

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Tyronee Biggums- Warrior SBI
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