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Posted by: katniss.6735

katniss.6735

That is all .

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Posted by: abaddon.3290

abaddon.3290

its because your name is katniss.

im bad at sarcasm

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Posted by: eMKay.4028

eMKay.4028

its because your name is katniss.

Badum tsssss!

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Posted by: Jayden Ennok.3687

Jayden Ennok.3687

That is all .

you are not alone

on 2nd note, you probably are if you are still in wvw :P

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Posted by: Famine.7915

Famine.7915

K.

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Posted by: Pelto.9364

Pelto.9364

Tower guards Veteran Scout and Veteran Guard almost killed my ele; had to reset (playing d/d). I’m looking in to soloing a camp QQ

They easy with any other profession.

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Posted by: Sunshine.5014

Sunshine.5014

Tower guards Veteran Scout and Veteran Guard almost killed my ele; had to reset (playing d/d). I’m looking in to soloing a camp QQ

They easy with any other profession.

You should try to solo Svanir too. If you can kill it and the Chieftain, you’re better than some of ANet balance team!

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Already quit PvP. Just log in here and there to troll.

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Posted by: alain.1659

alain.1659

I do not want to sound poophole-ish but I have tried ele after patch and it is still better than some professions. True, there are some problems, but a little tanky-ish build or classic scepter focus (air spam is reduced, that bugs me) can still work. D/F with air-earth-tempest still does wonders if you do not play against a heavy condi build (chrono mesmers especially).

With staff roaming (yep, I did a stupid thing like that) I used arcane, air (lightning rod) and tempest with soldier set and zerker trinkets. Still bugs people but that is all it can do.

Sadly if you want to survive, durability runes are kind of a requirement.

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Posted by: katniss.6735

katniss.6735

Trooper are way better than durability in pvp/wvw.

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Posted by: Mara.6782

Mara.6782

Fresh air S/F works for me pve and pvp havent played wvw for a long time so dont know how good ele is there.

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Posted by: alain.1659

alain.1659

Trooper are way better than durability in pvp/wvw.

Yes I feel they might be better. But I have lost my kitten way to farm those durability runes so I will use them no matter what

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Posted by: Dahir.4158

Dahir.4158

That is all.

Me too. I think it’s time to make a Revenant.

Broski

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

The did hit the non meta builds that held us playing elementalist with the nerf so hard that ele will even be abandoned by many long term ele lovers. Hope is fading. So much things to improve and it never happened and now another across the board nerf that feels like no dev investet more then five minutes on ele ….

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Posted by: Ryou.2398

Ryou.2398

Yep it’s clear the route they are going now, I’m moving to eso, I may come back to do hot some day but I doubt I’ll ever get back info this one, when it seems like devs don’t care as much j about a game anymore then the players feel it to, we don’t feel like playing any more. Maybe I’ll move go guild wars 3 if they do better but they are getting a bad rap lately.

I know some still care about the game though so let’s hope the others can find some passion in their hearts for continuing a game legacy.

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Posted by: soulknight.9620

soulknight.9620

What? You feel weak? Nah, deffinetly a l2p issue. You got majorly buffed a lot of times, remember those shatterstone vuln stacks?
/sarcasm off

Ele is unplayable, and doesnt mean if a single pro esl player can make a certain build work in a certain situation, for majority of players ele is dead and it will be dead. It is not worth to try to make a difference. Doesnt matter how strong and well trained you can be, a man with a stick cant beat a tank.

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Posted by: ionix.9054

ionix.9054

This class is awful at the moment. ANET killed the d/d spec which may have been the biggest draw. Nerf after nerf and lack of meaningful attention have turned this class into the most boring class in the game.

I don’t want to run around with a warhorn, blindly pressing auras (a spec which take little to no skill). I want d/d returned to a viable state and way to deal with this out of control condition situation.

I transferred all my ascended to my mesmer and redid my fractal set on him. I’ve been done with elly since Saturday. The last round of nerfs were the nail in the coffin for me.

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

Maybe my warrior picks my ele´s ascended viper equipement …

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Posted by: Valento.9852

Valento.9852

Nerf catnip ele!!

Attempts at ele specs:
Shaman
Conjurer

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

This class is awful at the moment. ANET killed the d/d spec which may have been the biggest draw. Nerf after nerf and lack of meaningful attention have turned this class into the most boring class in the game.

I don’t want to run around with a warhorn, blindly pressing auras (a spec which take little to no skill). I want d/d returned to a viable state and way to deal with this out of control condition situation.

I transferred all my ascended to my mesmer and redid my fractal set on him. I’ve been done with elly since Saturday. The last round of nerfs were the nail in the coffin for me.

Agreed, but we can’t say that we haven’t seen it coming. It’s been an ongoing process of bad ideas, bad changes and miscalculated nerfs.

We used to complain about our elite being worthless, now it’s the entire class.

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Posted by: katniss.6735

katniss.6735

I want to do 15k+ damage meteors again! I have actual zerker gear, not wimpy marauders.

I play d/f minstrel troll ele in wvw because that’s how horrible this class is.

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Posted by: Supreme.3164

Supreme.3164

you guys still play ele? xd funny folks..delete it or use the toon as a pack mule, d/d is gone and will never be back, the power creep on other professions is far too great and you can see for yourself how every “buff” it’s nothing but a half-measure change of which the positive part normally count for nothing.

Typical ele “buff”-

“Skill X dmg has been increased by 33% (mind you we’re talking about a skill with 1+ s cast time and 2-3s animation lol) to compensate the dmg buff, we’ve increased the CD by 3-4s and reduce the radius from 600 to 300”..something across these lines.

They have no love for the class as it’s an epic design failure and you’re asking for pain and frustration by keep playing ele..stop torturing yourself

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Posted by: Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Sirbeaumerdier.3740

I want to do 15k+ damage meteors again! I have actual zerker gear, not wimpy marauders.

I play d/f minstrel troll ele in wvw because that’s how horrible this class is.

Hang head in shame…

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Posted by: katniss.6735

katniss.6735

I want to do 15k+ damage meteors again! I have actual zerker gear, not wimpy marauders.

I play d/f minstrel troll ele in wvw because that’s how horrible this class is.

Hang head in shame…

Hey, I do it with a commander icon on while calling the rest of my server cowards.

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Posted by: fost.9167

fost.9167

Yay more mag peoples!

I also run D/F minstrel troll and find a good player to healbot. Not much else on ele at the moment. Not saying it is impossible but if you meet equally skilled people or better you’re gonna drop.

Just my opinion, im an average player =)

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Posted by: vesica tempestas.1563

vesica tempestas.1563

thats the issue, against equal skilled players the weaknesses of ele are obvious. I’ve taken a break from GW2 now (im ele only) and spending more time on EVE until they sort this mess – which is kinda sad, I love fantasy mmorpg and the Guild wars universe. The Anet dev team are insane to allow this level of breaking change with no proper impact analysis.


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but would also result in a product that might not satisfy anyone”- Roman Pichler, Strategize

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Posted by: Cecilia.5179

Cecilia.5179

One of my guildies runs D/F and Minstrel.
It’s unkillable, but it has no killing power.
I’ve seen some good S/F eles, but nothing really feels as good as D/D with Evasive Arcana.

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Posted by: indelible.5928

indelible.5928

It’s just another rubbish, bland class now.

MMO developers seem to have this thing where they actually don’t know how to balance caster-damage types without turning them into the most boring, pointless affairs in the game. Say what you want about the other classes not outputting as much damage as Ele, but they’re WAY more fun to play.

ANet’s balance team need to take their heads of their collective kitten and realise that there’s more to it than just making the numbers flat and bland for everyone. Classes need to have a personality, some flare. Ele just doesn’t have it anymore.

So yeah, going to level my thief and guard on the side but as of today… I’m done trying to like a class as poorly designed and cared for as the ele. ANet can shove it, as far as I’m concerned.

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

It’s just another rubbish, bland class now.

MMO developers seem to have this thing where they actually don’t know how to balance caster-damage types without turning them into the most boring, pointless affairs in the game. Say what you want about the other classes not outputting as much damage as Ele, but they’re WAY more fun to play.

ANet’s balance team need to take their heads of their collective kitten and realise that there’s more to it than just making the numbers flat and bland for everyone. Classes need to have a personality, some flare. Ele just doesn’t have it anymore.

So yeah, going to level my thief and guard on the side but as of today… I’m done trying to like a class as poorly designed and cared for as the ele. ANet can shove it, as far as I’m concerned.

They celebrated nerfing Ice Bow by 50% as if they achieved something. It shows you just how lost they are, they have absolutely no clue about how their own game should work.

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Posted by: FOKOZUYNEN.8206

FOKOZUYNEN.8206

That is all .

you are not alone

on 2nd note, you probably are if you are still in wvw :P

Thas not only in WvW go and try to say that you search for PvE raids as Tempest. good luck now exist DRUID healer cleanse condi exist Reverant for Damage. RIP ELE@Tempest

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

i am still an ele fan but playing warrior is a lot of fun ……. sigh.
And i know it by myself seeing it in another game where i did the balacing. The better you balace a game the higher the risk that it get´s booring. A common prolbem if you destroy diversity in the process.

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Posted by: Dravis.7681

Dravis.7681

As a new player (started 3 weeks ago) who picked Elementalist as my first class and will hit level 80 with tonight… I find this thread rather depressing. :-/

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

As a new player (started 3 weeks ago) who picked Elementalist as my first class and will hit level 80 with tonight… I find this thread rather depressing. :-/

If you go full zerk and use all the damage modifiers traits (Air/Water/Arcane or Tempest) you can have some fun still in WvW nuking zergs. It’s just really hard to stay alive in the current meta.

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Posted by: vesica tempestas.1563

vesica tempestas.1563

As a new player (started 3 weeks ago) who picked Elementalist as my first class and will hit level 80 with tonight… I find this thread rather depressing. :-/

dont be too disheartened, outside of spvp its a great class, lots of variety of builds and fun to play.


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Posted by: Svarty.8019

Svarty.8019

As a new player (started 3 weeks ago) who picked Elementalist as my first class and will hit level 80 with tonight… I find this thread rather depressing. :-/

dont be too disheartened, outside of spvp its a great class, lots of variety of builds and fun to play.

IMO If you can master ele, most of the other classes will probably be easy to learn. So you could play a “better” one.

Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.

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Posted by: katniss.6735

katniss.6735

To be constructive, I think unsteady ground should not have a cast time, and everything in fire should apply a burn.

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Posted by: SnowHawk.3615

SnowHawk.3615

anet doesnt know what to do with ele is all. i just want to pvp on my ele and not feel like a piece of paper even with a “bunky” type build it’s ridiculous. overloads should have a base stack of stability in pvp bc i cant finish any castings due to every class having several stuns and kb’s.

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Posted by: SnowHawk.3615

SnowHawk.3615

im using a warhorn variant, with storm signet works alright so far in pvp

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Posted by: bearshaman.3421

bearshaman.3421

As a new player (started 3 weeks ago) who picked Elementalist as my first class and will hit level 80 with tonight… I find this thread rather depressing. :-/

Enjoy the class. There will always be people who will whine because something isn’t exactly the way they want it, and they will be “loud” about it. It’s a good class, and a lot of fun to play. Go forth and be happy!

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Posted by: Senario.2038

Senario.2038

As a new player (started 3 weeks ago) who picked Elementalist as my first class and will hit level 80 with tonight… I find this thread rather depressing. :-/

Enjoy the class. There will always be people who will whine because something isn’t exactly the way they want it, and they will be “loud” about it. It’s a good class, and a lot of fun to play. Go forth and be happy!

Until you realize that you really only do well if playing staff on big, immobile targets. If you try to fight smaller mobile targets you would be better off rolling a thief and autoattacking.

Enjoy the class, but keep in mind the reality about the numbers. It isn’t looking good and defending the nerfs as anything but a badly implemented change is silly.

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Posted by: trunks.1659

trunks.1659

I quit for a while back in February (being Chilled 900% of the time is fun!) and this is what I come back to? I was wondering why I suddenly had a free level 80 boost. That should’ve been a hint.

Normally I don’t take the forum qq too seriously but … it’s pretty bad. Even in PvE, sure the class performs, but it feels so generic now. You have 4 attunements but rarely if ever use 3 of them for any given situation. Mostly you camp in one and spam your auto-attack.

It seems like their design goals just don’t match the current design of the profession. It’s hard to see how that’s fixed without a significant overhaul. Unfortunately this happens in most mature MMOs, and the developers almost never make the sweeping changes necessary to correct their own design flaws.

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Posted by: Henrik.7560

Henrik.7560

The only solution is to give the old amulets in PvP back, and in ALL game modes give the tempest line some major buffs- talking dps wise not survival. Fire Air and Arcana lines also need some buffs. And then all 4 trash scepter autos, the trash offhand dagger cooldowns, and the lack of condi clear without water overload. And why were fiery greatsword and icebow nerfed in the first place, they are garbo now, so their changes should be reverted back to twice its current dps.

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Posted by: soulknight.9620

soulknight.9620

As a new player (started 3 weeks ago) who picked Elementalist as my first class and will hit level 80 with tonight… I find this thread rather depressing. :-/

Enjoy the class. There will always be people who will whine because something isn’t exactly the way they want it, and they will be “loud” about it. It’s a good class, and a lot of fun to play. Go forth and be happy!

We are not saying that ele is a bad designed class. Its not. If you play only elementalist and do not interact with other classes and spvp mode, then sure, ele is fine and fun.

But when you do compare eles with other classes, you will see that “anything ele can do, they can do better”. Same goes for spvp.

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Posted by: Azalis.5142

Azalis.5142

It’s funny that the ele has double the abilities of all the other classes and is weak. Like, you’d think the complexity factor should bump in and be like “it’s hard to play, but the reward is great” instead it’s like have all these abilities that don’t really do anything!

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

It’s funny that the ele has double the abilities of all the other classes and is weak. Like, you’d think the complexity factor should bump in and be like “it’s hard to play, but the reward is great” instead it’s like have all these abilities that don’t really do anything!

At release most people found the ele and engi too complicated to play but understood that it was more rewarding if you invested the time.

You could use the elementalist in pvp with a berserker amulet because the old trait system was way better. It’s the class that has suffered the most from the new trait system.

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

New Main- 80 Thief – P/P- Vault Spam Pro

221 hours over 1,581 days of bank space/hot pve/lion’s arch afk and some wvw.

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Posted by: Sismis.5390

Sismis.5390

I was feeling a bit screw-loose so I…checked myself in.

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Posted by: Jski.6180

Jski.6180

Your a mages that part of the type in EVERY game and story. Your magic is what makes you strong and if you do not know how to use it or your simply out of it you are nothing.

Now i would not mind seeing boons having a stronger effect on the ele much like protection for tempest but there got to be counter play to it.

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Posted by: Solstace.2514

Solstace.2514

I do not want to sound poophole-ish but I have tried ele after patch and it is still better than some professions. True, there are some problems, but a little tanky-ish build or classic scepter focus (air spam is reduced, that bugs me) can still work. D/F with air-earth-tempest still does wonders if you do not play against a heavy condi build (chrono mesmers especially).

With staff roaming (yep, I did a stupid thing like that) I used arcane, air (lightning rod) and tempest with soldier set and zerker trinkets. Still bugs people but that is all it can do.

Sadly if you want to survive, durability runes are kind of a requirement.

Currently it’s most likely the worst profession in pvp. You can have some viable builds but they have no where near the utility of the other classes meta builds. In higher match ups, ele is just not viable currently. Sure you can have good players that can play well but all other things being equal, they’re still at a disadvantage.

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Posted by: Azalis.5142

Azalis.5142

I can’t even play my ele in the world. It’s just so soft, and my damage is hilariously low outside of meteor. Meanwhile I watch all these other people just stand and deliver, taking low damage, healing easily, doing way more damage. Oh well, my warrior is fun. Goodbye ele

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Posted by: Waisenpai.6028

Waisenpai.6028

ele is bad T.T I lied, I’m sorry. WvW it plays a 7 but in spvp rank it feel like 4. If you don’t want to fix tempest fine. Fix arcane trait line by reverting vigor cool down from 10 seconds back to 5 seconds cause Daredevils have 1 second vigor cooldown on evade. Please revert fire trait line nerf also since it was demolish pre-hot. We don’t even have celestial, crusader or clerics, if we don’t have sustain please give us some retro burst.
Also RTL needs a CD reduction or increase range and speed increased if ele can’t sustain we need to be able withdraw from battle. ANdfinally

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