Guild Wars 2

These classes give me trouble in 1v1 as s/d ele who is mainly glassy:
hambow warrior
condi warr(sword/sword / lb)
p/u mesmer
shatter mesmer
condi ranger
condi necromancer

I run 0/30/0/10/30 and ether renewal/cleansing fire/mist form/lf/fgs
I want advice on certain actions or spells i need to dodge not really “change your build to diamond skin” or “go d/d bunker” as these suggestions are useless to me.

Hambow Warrior:
Kite and DPS from Range… avoid Earthshaker and take advantage of your blind… it’s as effective as another dodge.

Condi Warrior:
This guy shouldn’t be a problem for you… you have enough condi cleanse as is… just DPS burn him.

P/U Memser:
Tough guy eh?
Single target DPS (Air Attunement Rotation)
Stay AWAY from clones and pop frost aura if they get too close.

Shatter Mesmer:
DPS from range and come in for a final hit.
Stack as much burning as you can on him as well.
Watch for the shatter and dodge (it takes a while to be able to detect a shatter but when you do get it you notice that all of the clones instantly start running towards you. You can dodge into them)

Tip for Mesmer/Thief:
Air Autoattack still hits when the enemy is stealthed. So does Hurl (Earth 2). You can use this to pressure these guys even when they’re stealthed and even determine where they are depending on where the stones are going once you get experienced enough.

Condi Ranger:
Usually they are pretty squishy if you can kite them and keep your condi clears going. They usually stand still while they’re attacking so you might able to pressure them by dropping Dragon’s Tooth on them among other things. For Spirit ranger you can kill the spirits from ranged (Dragontooth/pheonix) and also go in for your full Might Rotation (finishes with Churning Earth) which will probably kill them (but it may leave you vulnerable).

Condi Necro:
I have a rotation which can kill them without them being able to land a single hit on me and I’ve made many necros rage because of it.
Just keep them down: You have 2 skills Earthquake and Updraft use them to keep them unable to move. These necros usually do not take any stunbreakers so they are vulnerable for the entirety of the knockdown. While they’re down… hit them with everything you’ve got. If you time your rotations properly (and with a bit of luck) you can kill them without them even touching you.

More notes…
Don’t take FGS (The LF + FGS 4) combo is nice but it’s very gimicky and it’s not very effective in 1 v 1’s.
The Glyph is a LOT more effective during 1 v 1’s (Fire Ele does a LOT of damage).

Consider taking Armor of Earth instead of Cleansing Fire.
Armor of Earth + Ether Renewal is a much better condi cleanse than Cleansing Fire.
^ It also ensures that you can get your heal off as well…

I hope this helped!
-Gasmic
#ELEtism

not s ure if gasmic even looked at your build.

condition builds WILL give you hell with that build. I’d suggest either putting in at least 20 into water or drop the fresh air altogether if you want a good fight against condition heavy builds.

Jae.5138:

not s ure if gasmic even looked at your build.

condition builds WILL give you hell with that build. I’d suggest either putting in at least 20 into water or drop the fresh air altogether if you want a good fight against condition heavy builds.

Not sure if Jae knows Elementalist at all:

Ether Renewal = -8 Conditions on 12 second timer
Cleansing Fire = – 3 Conditions on a 40 second timer < Waste
Cleansing Wave = -1 Condition on a 40 second timer
Water Attunement Evasive Arcana = – 1 Condition on a 10 second timer
Phoenix = – 1 Condition on a 20 second timer

You DO NOT need to spec into water for Condition Removal; there are MUCH better ways to access it than to waste points into the Water tree.

There is lots of Condition removal in this build especially in Ether Renewal. I use Ether Renewal even when I’m close to full health to keep myself free of conditions because I know it’ll be up again next time I need it. It also keeps me at full health which keeps my Scholar runes proccing.

Hambow, burn your dodges when he pulls out the bow for a chance at dodging pin down, alternatively, be ready to heal through bow dmg since it has no interrupts on it. When he switches to hammer, don’t waste your stun breaks. As long as you dodge 2 stuns you dont have to stun-break the third. Hammer has a very simple 3-stun lockdown, if you avoid two, the one remaining stun shouldn’t be too much of an issue. Always stun-break when you get stunned right away though. Spam blinds cause hammer hits very slow.

P/U mesmer: you really shouldn’t be fighting this guy, you’re most likely more useful somewhere else. If you really have to, avoid his scepter block (it has an icon in the effects bar) by dodging right after you pop the block, or by waiting the block out. If you don’t you’ll get 5 stacks torment which will destroy you. Don’t be too afraid to destroy his clones in a fire burst, he will override them with new ones and they’ll explode anyway. Generally you should avoid killing the clones, but don’t make it hurt your damage too much.

Shatter mesmer: Dodge when all the clones start running at you, gtfo when he uses illusionary leap, dont blow cooldowns on distortion/blurred frenzy. But most of all, PRESSURE this guy. Go hard or go home, seriously this is the best advice against shatter mesmers, get up in their face and pressure them.

Condi ranger, if he uses spirits, know that they will die by your fire burst, and will all proc their passives on death. Dodge through the clusterkitten of effects this creates. Try to kite the pet, dodge the fear (when you see his wolf howl), always use stability with your heal unless he blows his concussion shot, which he really shouldnt. Rangers lack overtime heals but have very thick skin. Not the best matchup for something glassy. Try to last decently long by making good use of water.

Condi necromancer: very susceptible to cc! Try to keep him locked as long as you can and maximize your burst. Once it goes sideways and conditions start ticking up, learn to leave before its too late since he cant chase you. So try to stunlock and burst. Not gonna lie if he has a stunbreak you’re not gonna pull this off.

Forgot condi warrior: dodge impale! It’s the sword throw thingy. Heal through the sword adrenaline skill. Condi warrior has no interrupts so shouldnt be too hard

Incinerary GET out of my teamspeak unless you get a Mic! sorry to derail lol

I have a mic its just no point in talkin at 2 am :P

Mash Hog.5672:

Jae.5138:

not s ure if gasmic even looked at your build.

condition builds WILL give you hell with that build. I’d suggest either putting in at least 20 into water or drop the fresh air altogether if you want a good fight against condition heavy builds.

Not sure if Jae knows Elementalist at all:

Ether Renewal = -8 Conditions on 12 second timer
Cleansing Fire = – 3 Conditions on a 40 second timer < Waste
Cleansing Wave = -1 Condition on a 40 second timer
Water Attunement Evasive Arcana = – 1 Condition on a 10 second timer
Phoenix = – 1 Condition on a 20 second timer

You DO NOT need to spec into water for Condition Removal; there are MUCH better ways to access it than to waste points into the Water tree.

There is lots of Condition removal in this build especially in Ether Renewal. I use Ether Renewal even when I’m close to full health to keep myself free of conditions because I know it’ll be up again next time I need it. It also keeps me at full health which keeps my Scholar runes proccing.

i like how you list some skills out as if you can’t get them without going your build (i.e. phoenix and ether renewal)

but nice try.

btw cleansing wave trait has 0 sec cd so it actually procs every time u go into water, without the 40sec cd

it’s just sad that you even have to pick up ether renewal just for the sake of surviving against condition builds lol.

Jae.5138:

Mash Hog.5672:

Jae.5138:

not s ure if gasmic even looked at your build.

condition builds WILL give you hell with that build. I’d suggest either putting in at least 20 into water or drop the fresh air altogether if you want a good fight against condition heavy builds.

Not sure if Jae knows Elementalist at all:

Ether Renewal = -8 Conditions on 12 second timer
Cleansing Fire = – 3 Conditions on a 40 second timer < Waste
Cleansing Wave = -1 Condition on a 40 second timer
Water Attunement Evasive Arcana = – 1 Condition on a 10 second timer
Phoenix = – 1 Condition on a 20 second timer

You DO NOT need to spec into water for Condition Removal; there are MUCH better ways to access it than to waste points into the Water tree.

There is lots of Condition removal in this build especially in Ether Renewal. I use Ether Renewal even when I’m close to full health to keep myself free of conditions because I know it’ll be up again next time I need it. It also keeps me at full health which keeps my Scholar runes proccing.

i like how you list some skills out as if you can’t get them without going your build (i.e. phoenix and ether renewal)

but nice try.

btw cleansing wave trait has 0 sec cd so it actually procs every time u go into water, without the 40sec cd

it’s just sad that you even have to pick up ether renewal just for the sake of surviving against condition builds lol.

No, you’re sad.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Wave

OOOO BURN
FIGHT FIGHT

Jae.5138:

Mash Hog.5672:

Jae.5138:

not s ure if gasmic even looked at your build.

condition builds WILL give you hell with that build. I’d suggest either putting in at least 20 into water or drop the fresh air altogether if you want a good fight against condition heavy builds.

Not sure if Jae knows Elementalist at all:

Ether Renewal = -8 Conditions on 12 second timer
Cleansing Fire = – 3 Conditions on a 40 second timer < Waste
Cleansing Wave = -1 Condition on a 40 second timer
Water Attunement Evasive Arcana = – 1 Condition on a 10 second timer
Phoenix = – 1 Condition on a 20 second timer

You DO NOT need to spec into water for Condition Removal; there are MUCH better ways to access it than to waste points into the Water tree.

There is lots of Condition removal in this build especially in Ether Renewal. I use Ether Renewal even when I’m close to full health to keep myself free of conditions because I know it’ll be up again next time I need it. It also keeps me at full health which keeps my Scholar runes proccing.

i like how you list some skills out as if you can’t get them without going your build (i.e. phoenix and ether renewal)

but nice try.

btw cleansing wave trait has 0 sec cd so it actually procs every time u go into water, without the 40sec cd

it’s just sad that you even have to pick up ether renewal just for the sake of surviving against condition builds lol.

NinjaBreadMan.8926:

These classes give me trouble in 1v1 as s/d ele

I run 0/30/0/10/30 and ether renewal/cleansing fire/mist form/lf/fgs

Not sure if you know how to read…
But all of the skills/utilities that I mentioned are already included within his build.

Cleansing Water has a 5 second internal cooldown in PvP and is not worth going 30 into water for condi removal when such strong condition removal is already present.

Cleansing WAVE is the #5 Water Skill for Dagger which removes a condition.

As he stated earlier Ether Renewal is a skill he’s already taken.
Phoenix is the #3 Fire skill for Scepter.

You should play Elementalist some more before you start giving out some bad advice.

Mash Hog.5672:

Jae.5138:

Mash Hog.5672:

Jae.5138:

not s ure if gasmic even looked at your build.

condition builds WILL give you hell with that build. I’d suggest either putting in at least 20 into water or drop the fresh air altogether if you want a good fight against condition heavy builds.

Not sure if Jae knows Elementalist at all:

Ether Renewal = -8 Conditions on 12 second timer
Cleansing Fire = – 3 Conditions on a 40 second timer < Waste
Cleansing Wave = -1 Condition on a 40 second timer
Water Attunement Evasive Arcana = – 1 Condition on a 10 second timer
Phoenix = – 1 Condition on a 20 second timer

You DO NOT need to spec into water for Condition Removal; there are MUCH better ways to access it than to waste points into the Water tree.

There is lots of Condition removal in this build especially in Ether Renewal. I use Ether Renewal even when I’m close to full health to keep myself free of conditions because I know it’ll be up again next time I need it. It also keeps me at full health which keeps my Scholar runes proccing.

i like how you list some skills out as if you can’t get them without going your build (i.e. phoenix and ether renewal)

but nice try.

btw cleansing wave trait has 0 sec cd so it actually procs every time u go into water, without the 40sec cd

it’s just sad that you even have to pick up ether renewal just for the sake of surviving against condition builds lol.

NinjaBreadMan.8926:

These classes give me trouble in 1v1 as s/d ele

I run 0/30/0/10/30 and ether renewal/cleansing fire/mist form/lf/fgs

Not sure if you know how to read…
But all of the skills/utilities that I mentioned are already included within his build.

Cleansing Water has a 5 second internal cooldown in PvP and is not worth going 30 into water for condi removal when such strong condition removal is already present.

Cleansing WAVE is the #5 Water Skill for Dagger which removes a condition.

As he stated earlier Ether Renewal is a skill he’s already taken.
Phoenix is the #3 Fire skill for Scepter.

You should play Elementalist some more before you start giving out some bad advice.

There’s actually a trait called Cleansing Wave as well, which is most likely what he is referring to: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Wave_
Will stay out of the way of the rest of the argument, just trying to fix the communication problem here.

P Fun Daddy.1208:

Mash Hog.5672:

Jae.5138:

Mash Hog.5672:

Jae.5138:

not s ure if gasmic even looked at your build.

condition builds WILL give you hell with that build. I’d suggest either putting in at least 20 into water or drop the fresh air altogether if you want a good fight against condition heavy builds.

Not sure if Jae knows Elementalist at all:

Ether Renewal = -8 Conditions on 12 second timer
Cleansing Fire = – 3 Conditions on a 40 second timer < Waste
Cleansing Wave = -1 Condition on a 40 second timer
Water Attunement Evasive Arcana = – 1 Condition on a 10 second timer
Phoenix = – 1 Condition on a 20 second timer

You DO NOT need to spec into water for Condition Removal; there are MUCH better ways to access it than to waste points into the Water tree.

There is lots of Condition removal in this build especially in Ether Renewal. I use Ether Renewal even when I’m close to full health to keep myself free of conditions because I know it’ll be up again next time I need it. It also keeps me at full health which keeps my Scholar runes proccing.

i like how you list some skills out as if you can’t get them without going your build (i.e. phoenix and ether renewal)

but nice try.

btw cleansing wave trait has 0 sec cd so it actually procs every time u go into water, without the 40sec cd

it’s just sad that you even have to pick up ether renewal just for the sake of surviving against condition builds lol.

NinjaBreadMan.8926:

These classes give me trouble in 1v1 as s/d ele

I run 0/30/0/10/30 and ether renewal/cleansing fire/mist form/lf/fgs

Not sure if you know how to read…
But all of the skills/utilities that I mentioned are already included within his build.

Cleansing Water has a 5 second internal cooldown in PvP and is not worth going 30 into water for condi removal when such strong condition removal is already present.

Cleansing WAVE is the #5 Water Skill for Dagger which removes a condition.

As he stated earlier Ether Renewal is a skill he’s already taken.
Phoenix is the #3 Fire skill for Scepter.

You should play Elementalist some more before you start giving out some bad advice.

There’s actually a trait called Cleansing Wave as well, which is most likely what he is referring to: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Wave_
Will stay out of the way of the rest of the argument, just trying to fix the communication problem here.

Definitely true, but when someone mentions Cleansing Wave with a 40 s cd….