Guild Wars 2

“~” used in switching weapons, does not exist in the elemental class, but seems to be a thing for all the other classes, bug? Making combat a very selective thing. I will just stand on a wall and look pretty if I cant switch my weapon from D/D back to staff or hope to find an arrow cart. Or if I am already equipped with a staff, I just run from PvP, even 1on1 PvP until I have time to open my inventory and equip something fair or get to a group. I frequently see other Ele’s with the same issue. They are either a glass cannon or glass cases, usually never the correct one for the moment. Staff is great for groups, and daggers are great for 1v1. In WvWvW, I find myself in both situations, sometimes needing to switch my weapon multiple times in only minutes. Even a long cool-down on weapon switching would be more useful than what it is now.

No weapon swaps on Ele is intended, and quite frankly I’m glad it’s so. Now some will argue we should have a button to do this out of combat, and I’m not against that.

However, in combat, we could then potentially have access to 40 skills at once, and the combos that could be performed between 2 ele weapon sets could get out of control very quickly. I think that would end up being a nightmare to balance.

Yeah I drool thinking of the things I could lay down if I could switch between Staff and D/D or w/e and w/e during combat.

d/d and s/f… way more deadly lol.
If things go bad, you just switch over to your defensive weapon slot and throw out 23879813279 defensive spells

Elementalists and Engineers don’t have weapon swaps because they have other means to change their attacks. With engineers via kits and with elementalists via attunements.

I wish they’d have a swap slot for us to stick an alternate set in, BUT ONLY allow the swap when out of combat. I’m getting sick of popping my inventory to put on a staff. Just make it so if you try to swap while in combat, you get the red warning text like normal.

If Elementalists could swap weapon sets mid-combat, we would effectively have access to 40 weapon skills at any given time, and that would be just too much (both from a power standpoint and one of practicality). Most players agree it would be a nice “Quality of Life” improvement to be able to one-touch switch sets out of combat, though, so we don’t have to constantly rustle through our bags.

Well we need the “~” button to drop conjures, I use it myself quite often.

MindlessRuff.1948:

Well we need the “~” button to drop conjures, I use it myself quite often.

+1 I have it mapped to my nostromo though… dont actually ever touch that ~ key in game but hit the weapon swap often enough to drop conjures and such.

I’ve seen a lot of people ask for a weapon swap key for Elementalists (out of combat) and I would love such a thing. Have any devs ever commented whether this is something we could get?

I play a lot of WvW and run D/D usually. I hate having to open inventory while running up to a keep we are sieging and find where my staff ended up last time I swapped, then swap it in and hope I don’t sell my daggers accidentally. Just give us a non-combat weapon swap ability so our main weapons are protected and available quickly… Please?

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sachiel.8051:

I wish they’d have a swap slot for us to stick an alternate set in, BUT ONLY allow the swap when out of combat. I’m getting sick of popping my inventory to put on a staff. Just make it so if you try to swap while in combat, you get the red warning text like normal.

^ Yes please.

I totally agree, it’s a real pain to go look for your staff or daggers in your inventory, especially in wvw. +1 for out of combat weapon switch button! Don’t think anyone would be against this tbh.

Honestly I can already see the tears forming if they gave us an out-of-combat weapon swap…

“whaa! Whaa! I swapped to staff to keep swiftness up on myself while running from A to B and I got ambushed, put into combat and couldn’t access mah daggers to fight back!!!! WHY DOES ANET HATE ME?!?!? WHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!”

Pro tip: don’t rummage through your bags when hunting for your staff or weapon set. All your weapons are available from the Hero panel, so there is much less clutter and only really problematic if you have several items that use the same icon.

What I would like to see is per toon keybindings. Having to remap keys when swap toons sucks.

Moddo.7105:

What I would like to see is per toon keybindings. Having to remap keys when swap toons sucks.

thats the beauty of using the nostromo and a naga.
dont have to remap keys simply because all of the keys are easy to get to.

sachiel.8051:

I wish they’d have a swap slot for us to stick an alternate set in, BUT ONLY allow the swap when out of combat. I’m getting sick of popping my inventory to put on a staff. Just make it so if you try to swap while in combat, you get the red warning text like normal.

A million times this.

I don’t mind needing to be out of combat at all… I just find it so frustrating to take up my, screen for a few moments to switch out weapons/gear constantly in wvw.

Again, I don’t mind not having weapon swap, just pleeease give us ways to save gear sets to swap when out of combat.

Using the hero tab certainly helps, but it still takes up a large portion of the screen

I think it would be hilarious if they gave us weapon swap for maybe one week, just to see how much whine could be generated against the new unkillable iron cannon D/D\S/F eles

Please for the love of god, do not tell me you don’t see the problem with weapon swapping ele.

Imagine a D/D elementalist with a specter/focus as a second set, oh god the horrors >,<
Even if the cooldown was abnormally long like 60 seconds, it would still be broken.

Other classes get weapon swapping for the versitility in their skill set, for about 12 skills.
If you gave that to eles they would have an arsenal of 32 skills, you wouldn’t even predicate what they would do at that point.

ele dont need weapon swap, ele need changes… imagine a change to frost bow, it could be awesome WvW utility for D/D eles if it would be 1200 range at least if no other buffs… and there are more changes like this which comes to mind

I wish my warrior had 4 weapon sets
but yes, ele needs sets desperately, though they should only be able to switch outside of combat. or a better inventory would also work =)

also, all classes need general equip sets, I really want to be able to quickly switch my weapons, skills, armor and traits to accommodate my needs in different situations. especially for wvw & dungeons..

The problem really is that an Elementalist already has four “weapons” equipped, and each set has an individual CD to swapping towards that set.

Ofc, they all share a range. That’s the downside which comes with having 100% more weapon abilities, every weapon. Is it perfectly balanced? No. Is it cool design? Quite so, and it’s highly unique, too. More flexibility at the range, no flexiblity in range.

TabMorte.5297:

Elementalists and Engineers don’t have weapon swaps because they have other means to change their attacks. With engineers via kits and with elementalists via attunements.

Ele get a HUGE disadvantage though.
EVERY other class can switch between melee and range

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

EVERY other class can switch between melee and range

True, Elementalists have no melee option (Daggers are substantially more range than melee, and even Engineers have the Bomb Kit as an actual melee range kit).

Weapon swapping outside of combat should definitely be implemented. It should also be allowed in combat, but only if no weapon skill has yet been used. This would prevent being blindsided with no way to switch to your “up close” set…

magnafides.8136:

Weapon swapping outside of combat should definitely be implemented. It should also be allowed in combat, but only if no weapon skill has yet been used. This would prevent being blindsided with no way to switch to your “up close” set…

Oh, that would be extra-awesome! ANet, plz!

OldRodKS.9758:

Have any devs ever commented

BAHAHAHA good joke

Seriously though, no. You’ll be lucky to have a dev address a small set of questions across the entire community once every month. The way they handle feedback is pretty depressing. More than anything, that needs to change. I don’t care about anything else; this one problem outstrips every bug or balance issue or anything else by an incredible margin.

reikken.4961:

Seriously though, no. You’ll be lucky to have a dev address a small set of questions across the entire community once every month. The way they handle feedback is pretty depressing. More than anything, that needs to change. I don’t care about anything else; this one problem outstrips every bug or balance issue or anything else by an incredible margin.

They do quite extensive feedback, for example on Twitter or reddit. Read the AMA the other day?
And well, the way you write that will already make CMs not reply to you. You’re presuming that this issue is of more importance, hence you’re giving feedback (“I would really really like – above all else – weapon swapping on Elementalists”), but you’re not saying anything which needs Dev-Feedback at all.

That AMA is what I was referring to. I haven’t seen much of anything at all outside of that. Hence we’re lucky if we get that much once a month.

and idk if you misunderstood or not, but to clarify, what I would like above all else is communication between devs and players (I don’t care any about ele weapon swapping)

And as for posting things that deserve dev replies, I’ve tried that, and I would do more if it mattered, but it doesn’t, so I don’t. Anything I post is under the assumption that fellow players will see it, and that devs never will. All questions/comments directed at players. On the off chance that a dev does decide to address something, the rest of you have it covered anyway.

Marklo.8672:

“~” used in switching weapons, does not exist in the elemental class, but seems to be a thing for all the other classes, bug? Making combat a very selective thing. I will just stand on a wall and look pretty if I cant switch my weapon from D/D back to staff or hope to find an arrow cart. Or if I am already equipped with a staff, I just run from PvP, even 1on1 PvP until I have time to open my inventory and equip something fair or get to a group. I frequently see other Ele’s with the same issue. They are either a glass cannon or glass cases, usually never the correct one for the moment. Staff is great for groups, and daggers are great for 1v1. In WvWvW, I find myself in both situations, sometimes needing to switch my weapon multiple times in only minutes. Even a long cool-down on weapon switching would be more useful than what it is now.

You’re kidding , right? If we had access to weapon swap, elementalists would become immensely overpowered. Is it so hard to just go to your inventory and equip that staff when joining a group?

sachiel.8051:

I wish they’d have a swap slot for us to stick an alternate set in, BUT ONLY allow the swap when out of combat. I’m getting sick of popping my inventory to put on a staff. Just make it so if you try to swap while in combat, you get the red warning text like normal.

I would prefer some weapon switch, even if it was not available in combat, OR have an insane cool down of some sort.