Interesting new build. Thoughts?

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Posted by: Dacromir.6207

Dacromir.6207

I’m at work screwing around on a build editor, and I think I’ve found a potentially awesome build.

gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fEEQJAoYhMmebux2gjEAkCvEUIACjHgICJiCPA;TsAA1CtoAyAkAIbXOgkdNC5EycDA

The basis of this build is to give you 100% protection uptime. You also get:

  • Roughly 60% uptime with Fire Shield, which burns people in melee range. Lots of damage.
  • Signet of Restoration passive up at all times, as well as active used on cooldown.
  • A ranged (1200) immobilize (3s), blind (5s), and chill (4s) on low cooldowns.
  • 10% movement speed and condition removal every 10s, up at all times.

This build is based on three traits:

Written in Stone: Maintain the passive effects of signets when you activate them.
Elemental Shielding: Gain protection for 3s when applying an aura.
Fire’s Embrace: When you activate a signet, you gain a fiery shield for 3s.

Written in Stone turns Signet of Restoration into one of the game’s most powerful heals. You get a moderate heal every 20s and a small heal every skill use. Likewise, that makes your other signets very powerful.

Elemental Shielding combines with Fire’s embrace to form the defensive core of this build. Every time you use a signet, you gain a fire aura which gives you protection for 4.5s (with runes). With four signets (cooldowns: 16s, 20s, 24s, 24s), you can keep protection up 88% of the time. Add in the auras from weapons for 100% uptime.

Fire’s Embrace also contributes to a lot of damage. 60% uptime of a skill that applies constant burning to everyone near you is very, very powerful. Burning will deal 403 non-mitigated damage per second with the build I linked.

I need to get home and actually experiment with this, but it seems like it has potential to be a fun build. It should definitely have good survivability, with 390 toughness from skills/traits, 100% protection uptime, and lots of control.

(edited by Dacromir.6207)

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Posted by: Pneumothorax.2964

Pneumothorax.2964

Link isn’t working.

From the sounds of it, it is a nice build. One issue though, as far as I know, Fire Shield only does damage when you are struck making it much less useful.

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Posted by: Dacromir.6207

Dacromir.6207

Link isn’t working.

From the sounds of it, it is a nice build. One issue though, as far as I know, Fire Shield only does damage when you are struck making it much less useful.

Something about the forum is broken, thank you. I didn’t change the url, I just changed it from a link to plain text, and now it works.

As for fire shield, I’m basing this off of what I can find online. The wiki says

Grants the Fire Shield effect, burning foes that come within melee range.

However, even if the burning only applies when they hit you, that’s still pretty sweet. Either way, your enemy is taking lots of burning damage. Also, how does that work with multiple hits? If a warrior is hitting you with hundred blades, do they get a ton of burning because it’s 8 hits? If so… cool ^^

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Posted by: Melphina.9035

Melphina.9035

Link isn’t working.

From the sounds of it, it is a nice build. One issue though, as far as I know, Fire Shield only does damage when you are struck making it much less useful.

Something about the forum is broken, thank you. I didn’t change the url, I just changed it from a link to plain text, and now it works.

As for fire shield, I’m basing this off of what I can find online. The wiki says

Grants the Fire Shield effect, burning foes that come within melee range.

However, even if the burning only applies when they hit you, that’s still pretty sweet. Either way, your enemy is taking lots of burning damage. Also, how does that work with multiple hits? If a warrior is hitting you with hundred blades, do they get a ton of burning because it’s 8 hits? If so… cool ^^

whats your plan to surive those hits ?

Melphina Kobe ~ Thief

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Posted by: Dacromir.6207

Dacromir.6207

Link isn’t working.

From the sounds of it, it is a nice build. One issue though, as far as I know, Fire Shield only does damage when you are struck making it much less useful.

Something about the forum is broken, thank you. I didn’t change the url, I just changed it from a link to plain text, and now it works.

As for fire shield, I’m basing this off of what I can find online. The wiki says

Grants the Fire Shield effect, burning foes that come within melee range.

However, even if the burning only applies when they hit you, that’s still pretty sweet. Either way, your enemy is taking lots of burning damage. Also, how does that work with multiple hits? If a warrior is hitting you with hundred blades, do they get a ton of burning because it’s 8 hits? If so… cool ^^

whats your plan to surive those hits ?

I’m not saying I’ll intentionally get hit. However, at some point I am going to get hit, and having fire shield means they’ll take some damage. It’s a side benefit.

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Posted by: Anlyon.8375

Anlyon.8375

Aura build huh? cool.

Dont expect great things from Fire Shield. The protection (and swiftness/fury if you trait it) is the best thing it gives.

Asumming you PvE with that – Against mobs its terrible, especially at high levels. Mobs tend to hit slow but hard. This is the worst situation for fire shield. You want lots of hits but light.

In PvP there are better options. It doesnt trigger nearly enough against ranged, and melee tend to wreck the ele.

You have nothing to fear but Fear itself

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Posted by: Dacromir.6207

Dacromir.6207

Yeah, the fire shield is for protection/fury/swiftness. While using this build, I’ll be doing my absolute best not to be hit :P

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Posted by: Papaj.9035

Papaj.9035

I extensively tested something similar (Signet rotation build to perma keep protection/fury/swiftness up) in BWE #3 (both as D/D and S/D) because I got tired of listening to a guildmate tell me Daggers were OP and that I was just being a stubborn baddy refusing to let go of Staff. I’ll give you a basic rundown of how everything turned out (did many hours of in guild ‘dueling’ and 1v1/1v2 scenarios that we deemed would be common encounters for mid-map skirmish or point defense).

Success was terribly minor and limited to being able to beat other low-hp/toughness builds on more support oriented classes that could not pump out damage. So, in other words….Staff Ele’s who weren’t Splish Splash specced, Guardian’s who weren’t ‘the Burn’ spec, and Longbow Rangers (because the weapon puts out less damage than you do, which is already a laughable amount).

I’ll admit that I tried it, and that if I caught someone in a Churning Earth + DTooth + Phoenix + Fire Grab chain I pretty much wrecked them dead. But honestly, who would be dumb enough to eat all 4 of those spells back to back to back to back. It should be noted that most of the wrecking being done was not against guild members, but against randoms who ended up getting put in our match and were just terrible at the game in general.

I won’t tell you to not try it, but I will tell you that you won’t stand toe-to-toe with any non-caster class using melee weapons (part of why I went S/D eventually, still very limited success because of the severe lack of area denial that no weapon but the Staff possesses). If you don’t believe me just go find a buddy who is a Warrior/Thief/Ranger/Guardian and tell him to auto-attack you while you mash 1-2-3 on any weapon set as an Elementalist, I’ll bet money he doubles your damage over any amount of time.

I’m okay with melee weapons doing more damage to compensate for their lack of range, but not when their attacks are twice as fast to boot, that’s a factor of 3-4 times more damage per length of time (I say 3-4 because I don’t truly believe melee weapons are quite double the base damage of spells, but the speed on some of them definitely makes it feel that way).

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Posted by: Fred Fargone.3127

Fred Fargone.3127

Not particularly new, did about the same build in BWE2 myself. Oh, and note that the speed +10% is only applied in combat. (Same goes for the trait) which sucks. =/

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Posted by: Sezu.8564

Sezu.8564

I’m not sure if this build is for PvE or PvP, but you’re not going to last long (even with perma swiftness/protection) if you’re not rolling at least one cantrip.