Guild Wars 2

Think about it.

Change the staff to Bo Staff, the Daggers to Kunai, the Elements to Ninja Arts.

Change the theme some, so like when you dodge you disappear into a puff of smoke and reappear at the end of the roll.

As it stands there are basically 3 groups arguing on this board.

1) – Informed enough to make a discussion but they dont care, they want a class only 30% of players can find success comparable to other classes, and even a smaller number that can master it.

You won! You are the best most Elite Player EVER!
You Lost. Oh well I’m awesome that other guy is just a noob pressing 2.

2) – Not informed and likes the class but really doesnt have a broad perspective, or plays the game in a very narrow way against the general design, but has fun doing their own thing.

My Staff DPS is good in WvW, I mean its not like Melee classes can outclass my ranged damage.
Do I WvW? No I ignore what my realm is doing and just look for random 1v1 fights with guys getting attacked by wolves, I never die and am a boss. I always win because I never fight unless I have a stacked advantage.

And finally the guys that just want some bug fixes, a relook at traits and abilities that are 95% worthless, and maybe combining a few blah lame abilities and traits together to make someone think about maybe using it.

We dont want an overhaul, or reduced to 1-3 button pressing, just some positive tweaking. You know tweak the yeah I could use this vs the other one, but at a VERY minor situational advantage with 90% loss of dps…but I wont stuff.

BUT!

If you just renamed the class to Ninja..

People wouldnt be confused into thinking they were some kind of Wizard/Mage/Sorcerer.

No one we be confused into thinking this was a ranged DPS class, because they are a Ninja, obviously a melee.

They wouldnt be upset or surprised they do lawl damage at long range, do good damage at medium range…if their target stands still, and around 2 to 8 times the damage in melee vs anything else.

They wouldnt be upset they were asked to know every ability and use it without hesitation at exactly the right time with the slightest mistake resulting in death, and dodge around like a monkey…because they are a Ninja its what they do.

*And on a plus side you could redesign the armor to look cool, vs the fashion line we currently are wearing which was obviously designed by a collaboration between Elton John and Lady Gaga.

As sad and pathetic this all is, it is so very true.

Even more so, the class would be buffed in a week

This post is hillarious Very well written.

What about us who go playing our class where ever we want not caring that we aren´t 100% efficient in our choice of class while waiting to get bugfixes and some tweaks here and there?

Also, is it wrong playing the parts of the game you like? It certainly sounds like it when you read the OP.

Awwww, Strang looks offended. Poor guy

Didn’t care so much about what he said (would agree to some, would disagree to some), but you can’t deny its pretty funny^^

Braize.4560:

Awwww, Strang looks offended. Poor guy

Ok, now i´m interested.
How did you end up with that conclusion o_O?

This is pretty dead on. I had that thought the other night. I’m not a wizard, I’m a ninja with a complete disregard for proper combat attire.

Haha, well…i do feel kinda like Ninja Gaiden with D/D..

But if the class was called ninja then we’d have all the 12 year old XD SO EDGY DARKNESS kids playing it. And they would die.
A lot.
And then whine.
A lot.

I dont think my fragile mind could withstand QQ of that magnitude.

Gotta agree with Zenyatoo, we already have a Thief sub-forum.

But, well done OP.

I have only dipped my toes into playing Ele (level 21!) but a guild mate pointed me to this thread.. brilliantly written and verrrrry true, much of what you are talking about applies to the other professions too.. funny stuff

I would not want to log on after this update, for fear of the harm my Elementalist would unintentionally cause. Should this come to pass, I suspect my Elementalist would spontaneously explode in a fiery cataclysm that rivals the destruction of Orr. The land beneath their feet - which is usually Lion’s Arch - would be torn asunder, its piratological beauty shattered.

They’re wearing the pirate outfit town clothes, you see. The two energies of "ninja" and "pirate" are incompatible.

Ninjas would do far more damage then an frail-mentalist.

if we became ninjas, nobody would see us

lol fail. You’re actually right.

Melee classes can grab a ranged weapon anyway and get higher range than us. We are actually forced into close range more than melee classes! : d Along with the lowest amount of hp and armor and longest cast times. And not even higher damage and on demand burst than other classes.

So on second though, we arent ninjas, ninjas are too awesome.

Mytheos.7205:

*And on a plus side you could redesign the armor to look cool, vs the fashion line we currently are wearing which was obviously designed by a collaboration between Elton John and Lady Gaga.

I lol’ed. Elementalist —> Ninja ? UPVOTE.

Too bad you all mistook Elemetalist for fire/ice mage from WoW and completely overlooked the areas we were built to excel in. shrug owell, to each their own.

Not ninja, but Ele in GW2 looks like what in other games is the Monk class. Lots of gymn and martial arts, lots of CC to balance the low (bare hands) damage. If you do the RTL combo it even looks more Monk-ish style.

You could just say “Ele is like playing Ninja Gaiden,” and then all the “Lol DARKNESS!!!” kids would run away screaming.

@ Efaicia

Areas we were built to excel in? Please dont say healing and CC.

I keep hearing this CC thing like people think we are Enchanters from EQ or something, and somehow seem to think…

I annoyed that guy by CC’ing him and then he killed me, is somehow equal to…

I just annoyed those two guys by…well by just killing them.

Death is the best CC.

Actually, my L62 Ninja is doing pretty well in PvE, after I switched her to a Lightning Hammer build.

@Mytheos

No, I was not speaking of healing or cc. Try again.
I rememeber posting in one of these threads my adventure in WvW (heh) Solo’d 3-4 of the enemy while my big burly warrior guildie was running to my rescue. Niether cc or healing alone did that, but they still played a part.

Ok, honest question, how are we supposed to catch anybody if we’re ninjas and constantly set people on fire?

@Efaicia

So again I ask, what are the areas in which we excel?

So far every poll I have seen on this and any other site has us ranked in the bottom tier if not just the bottom spot.

Ranged DPS – Medium
Mid Range DPS – Good is stationary, medium if not
Melee – Good overall, although the consistency of abilities landing is lacking.
Downed State – Worthless. ( Comparison: I solo’d a lv 8 on my lv 4 Mesmer in my downed state )
Elites – Underwater the only one we get is nice. Otherwise pets are ok, everything else is blah.
CC – Depending on Weapons, Element, we do have a fair set of CC, however CC isnt exactly huge in this game by design, and they give you a fairly reasonable way to counter it.
Healing – We gain the ability to heal others at the cost of less efficiently healing ourselves. And the healing we do to others is low unless spec’d heavily reducing us to a crappy off-healer.

Is THAT enough guesses?