Need build for the upcoming raid

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Posted by: Tomiyou.3790

Tomiyou.3790

With the news that the first raid wing is coming on 17th of November, I am now struggling to find a viable build for ele in the first raid wing. I know the boss moves around a lot, so staff isn’t really optimal as it seems. Is there any other viable build, since this boss needs a lot of dps to kill. I know ele wasn’t used in any of the BWE3 kills of the Vale Guardian, but ele is my main and I REFUSE to let it get dusty, while everyone plays Herald in the new raid. Since now, I have done everything with the ele and I want and will keep it this way. And please, don’t start arguing about Tempest, I already know that it’s subpar to other elite specs, there are already enough of threads about this.
Edit: My bad, forgot to write this build should only be for the Vale Guardian, I want to try it out and not feel subpar to other classes. Shouldn’t have labeled Tempest as subpar, but I will intentionally leave the original description untouched, to prevent further confusion ^^

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Posted by: savacli.8172

savacli.8172

Short Answer: There’s no build yet

Long Answer: We saw just a brief preview of what the fight is going to look like. Even then, for us to give you a build based on that fight alone would imply that there will be little to no changes to the encounter from what we saw in BW3. The other problem we run into is what team comp are you planning to work with? Yes, we saw a handful of boss clears and folks put together the “ideal” team comp, but should something change in the encounter that may potential throw the whole composition back to the drawing board.

Until we have more concrete data on the encounter we’d just be theorizing at this point. Personally, I see use for a Tempest in Raids being able to both distribute boons as well as providing a good amount of healing. They still retain the versatility and combo field generation of the core Ele as well. If you’ve already labelled Tempest as subpar, well, I don’t know how flexible you’d be with suggestions others might make as Tempest excels in Team situations over solo situations.

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Posted by: Arutha.9874

Arutha.9874

Try to look into DD Cele Ele builds from PvP, they are for mobile targets so are a good place to learn rotations.
Next consider auras, there are a few threads up right now considering the sustain and clense brought by shouts(which are AoE auras by default)
After that customise your utility and build to either include or remove the ridiculous amount of Regen and Vigor that DD Tempest Eles bring to the melee team.
And finally choose which gear set you are comfortable playing, full dps might need Regen and Protection while part tanky could use different trait lines to boost dps.

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Posted by: Arutha.9874

Arutha.9874

My opinion differs from the person above me with regard to preparation now, practicing every build this class has to offer is a good idea even now, however he is correct to point out that different bosses will have very different mechanics and there won’t be “one build for raiding”.
However that only further reinforces my recommendation to practice and customise a DD build. Good luck!

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Posted by: Tomiyou.3790

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Short Answer: There’s no build yet

Long Answer: We saw just a brief preview of what the fight is going to look like. Even then, for us to give you a build based on that fight alone would imply that there will be little to no changes to the encounter from what we saw in BW3. The other problem we run into is what team comp are you planning to work with? Yes, we saw a handful of boss clears and folks put together the “ideal” team comp, but should something change in the encounter that may potential throw the whole composition back to the drawing board.

Until we have more concrete data on the encounter we’d just be theorizing at this point. Personally, I see use for a Tempest in Raids being able to both distribute boons as well as providing a good amount of healing. They still retain the versatility and combo field generation of the core Ele as well. If you’ve already labelled Tempest as subpar, well, I don’t know how flexible you’d be with suggestions others might make as Tempest excels in Team situations over solo situations.

I meant just for the first boss, the Vale Guardian, me and my guild just want to try it out and I don’t want to feel useless. This is where I labeled it subpar… Wait I was wrong, yeah we have currently no idea how it will work, I just doubt, that a jack of all trades can be more successful as a min-maxed group composition.
There have been some stationary bosses with big hitbox in the raid trailer, so maybe team comps will drastically change from each encounter. This leads me to my second question, that I forgot to write: will you be able to change class inside the raid. Like, can you do first boss with herald, second with thief, third with ele and so forth?

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

Fresh Air Tempest seem to be the highest possible dps in the game by far against stationary boss.

Does Raid boss moves alot?

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Posted by: Tomiyou.3790

Tomiyou.3790

Fresh Air Tempest seem to be the highest possible dps in the game by far against stationary boss.

Does Raid boss moves alot?

The player with most toughness get the aggro and he decides when to move. Dunno how much damage that highest toughness player actually gets.

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Posted by: Arutha.9874

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I meant just for the first boss, the Vale Guardian, me and my guild just want to try it out and I don’t want to feel useless. This is where I labeled it subpar… Wait I was wrong, yeah we have currently no idea how it will work, I just doubt, that a jack of all trades can be more successful as a min-maxed group composition.
There have been some stationary bosses with big hitbox in the raid trailer, so maybe team comps will drastically change from each encounter. This leads me to my second question, that I forgot to write: will you be able to change class inside the raid. Like, can you do first boss with herald, second with thief, third with ele and so forth?

Missed my posts like :-(
DD was what I had most success with on first boss, maximal movement for an Ele build.
Yeah you can easily swap builds or characters so long as someone stays in the instance, same as in dungeons.

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Posted by: Tomiyou.3790

Tomiyou.3790

I meant just for the first boss, the Vale Guardian, me and my guild just want to try it out and I don’t want to feel useless. This is where I labeled it subpar… Wait I was wrong, yeah we have currently no idea how it will work, I just doubt, that a jack of all trades can be more successful as a min-maxed group composition.
There have been some stationary bosses with big hitbox in the raid trailer, so maybe team comps will drastically change from each encounter. This leads me to my second question, that I forgot to write: will you be able to change class inside the raid. Like, can you do first boss with herald, second with thief, third with ele and so forth?

Missed my posts like :-(
DD was what I had most success with on first boss, maximal movement for an Ele build.
Yeah you can easily swap builds or characters so long as someone stays in the instance, same as in dungeons.

So, did you beat it? I really wanna know how it generally felt, not just for ele but for others too.

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Posted by: Arutha.9874

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So, did you beat it? I really wanna know how it generally felt, not just for ele but for others too.

No, the few that did probably don’t hang around the forums, but in terms of suggested builds this was the best I found for Ele, as I was switching classes a lot.