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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

Hi

Do the shouts only give the aura to allies or to me as a caster too?

If its caster too then the i would consider shouts as good and they woul be the only things i will use from the expension unless i build a support WH ele :-).

Greetings

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Posted by: SchmendrickTheMagician.8247

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Yes they give you the aura too. Sadly you need to equip the tempest elite spec to even use them.

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

Oh my :-(. I hope i can use one or two for my build without traiting tempest….

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Posted by: emikochan.8504

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No you won’t get the new skills/weapon without being a tempest iirc.

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Posted by: lucadiro.4519

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Really? If i dont spec on tempest i cant use warhorn or shouts???

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Posted by: Jski.6180

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Yes they give you the aura too. Sadly you need to equip the tempest elite spec to even use them.

As far as i can tell you do not lose any thing for going tempest other then a line and over all the tempest line seems able to replaces say earth or water to a point.

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Posted by: MiniEquine.6014

MiniEquine.6014

Really? If i dont spec on tempest i cant use warhorn or shouts???

This isn’t news. Anet has stated that this is how E.specs will be working before they even revealed the Chronomancer.

Activating the Elite traitline also allows you to equip the E.spec weapon and utilities through the minor traits.

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Posted by: lucadiro.4519

lucadiro.4519

Didnt know it. Ty for the info

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

IT´s a pity not being able to use shouts without tempest :-(. Its the only thing i could have used in my build. Tempest traits bring nothing for condi builds.

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

Well now i get different opinions. Some say WH is bound to tempest but shouts are not..
Confusion :-)

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Posted by: MiniEquine.6014

MiniEquine.6014

Well now i get different opinions. Some say WH is bound to tempest but shouts are not..
Confusion :-)

Shouts are most definitely bound to Tempest. This is not an opinion. However, there is no requirement to use either shouts or warhorn, even if you do take Tempest.

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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

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The way tempest looks now, don’t expect to ever see shouts used by guilds in wvw.


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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

Well i also struggle to see tempest being realy useful.
I can only see support builds. Using tempest will result in a loss of 20% damage + some control or a loss of surviability. For overloads and a bit aura support. I doubt it can compensate what i give up. But with a bit lower cooldowns i would be tempted to use one or two shouts without being tempest.
Maybe something will change to look better….

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Posted by: Mahuyo.3079

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Was that confermed that u can equip the r-skills when not spected, I know that warhorn u wouldn’t be able to use. But it looks like auramancers will trait into it, I mean I looks good at that point

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Posted by: Jski.6180

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The earth shout i think will be the new stander for d/d ele. Being able to dive into a group and land an aoe root blast is going to be really nice on the first bomb ontop of rat wells etc.. Then you give your pt earth arua to hard counter most of the dmg coming from there ranges classes.

Eye of the storm could be effective too but only if used right so you may get more out of this shout if you use the passive version.

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The earth shout i think will be the new stander for d/d ele. Being able to dive into a group and land an aoe root blast is going to be really nice on the first bomb ontop of rat wells etc.. Then you give your pt earth arua to hard counter most of the dmg coming from there ranges classes.

Eye of the storm could be effective too but only if used right so you may get more out of this shout if you use the passive version.

It would depend on the damage that u can do, weather u can use it and get ur opponents down to a reasonable health, where u can defeat them

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Posted by: Jski.6180

Jski.6180

The earth shout i think will be the new stander for d/d ele. Being able to dive into a group and land an aoe root blast is going to be really nice on the first bomb ontop of rat wells etc.. Then you give your pt earth arua to hard counter most of the dmg coming from there ranges classes.

Eye of the storm could be effective too but only if used right so you may get more out of this shout if you use the passive version.

It would depend on the damage that u can do, weather u can use it and get ur opponents down to a reasonable health, where u can defeat them

The dmg helps some but being able to have added soft cc and an “free” aoe aura should fit the d/d aura manser roll even staff maybe able to play aura manser now. (free aoe aura as in you do not need to go into water to give ppl auras.) Over all it just opens up more choose for ele as a class mind you cantrips are still king if you just want to live but no support where shouts are more support then self staying alive.

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Posted by: Mahuyo.3079

Mahuyo.3079

The earth shout i think will be the new stander for d/d ele. Being able to dive into a group and land an aoe root blast is going to be really nice on the first bomb ontop of rat wells etc.. Then you give your pt earth arua to hard counter most of the dmg coming from there ranges classes.

Eye of the storm could be effective too but only if used right so you may get more out of this shout if you use the passive version.

It would depend on the damage that u can do, weather u can use it and get ur opponents down to a reasonable health, where u can defeat them

The dmg helps some but being able to have added soft cc and an “free” aoe aura should fit the d/d aura manser roll even staff maybe able to play aura manser now. (free aoe aura as in you do not need to go into water to give ppl auras.) Over all it just opens up more choose for ele as a class mind you cantrips are still king if you just want to live but no support where shouts are more support then self staying alive.

Yea I agree, but is the aura aoe? O they are just looked it up on the wiki. Then I think that water is still going to get used mainly dd amancer, then staff. Though auras are going to be nice because of the Tempest trait “Element Bastion”, and with the traits that strip condies in Water it is going to be a must though the 1 i’m thinking of is a GM trait……