Guild Wars 2

Even my psychiatrist told me to re-roll.

I think much of the complaining b/c elementalists are pigeon-holed into 2 ways to play:

-Staff support in a group: this can do well, and has some tools to run back to safety when you are focused, but can’t actually defend itself very well. This really shines in WvW, and you can build a good deal of aoe offense too
- Instagib S/D build that is worse than a glass-cannon thief with less survivability. This is a poor spec, but it is the best of a slew of bad option for sPvP.

Old bunker specs or balanced specs are absolutely terrible nowadays, and actually ARE being nerfed in the upcoming patch b/c they are reducing the effectiveness of evasive arcana and elemental attunement. Any playstyle you want to pursue (burst, support, balanced, condition, tank) is done way better by any other class, with much fewer drawbacks. I don’t expect it to ever be fixed, and ele will continue to devolve with each obligatory nerf.

Adastra.9821:

Laken.4056:

Uhg. Ok I am sorry but this needs to be said.

Firstly, elementalist is not your typical MMO style mage. I honestly consider it a battle mage of sorts. You will never get away playing a single element as an elementalist. Its just not how the class works. In order to successfully play ele you need to learn to swap and use your combo barriers. If yo want a single element mage; go play rift or wow.

Second, if you are specing into full assault. Yes, you will be squishy beyond reason in pvp. Its the sacrifice for maxing out burst to be so high. Cantrip builds are absolutley superior survivability in this game as an ele. The healing power we are cabable of is nuts. Which really goes back into my first point of attun swapping. Simply swapping to water is a 2.5k heal+another 2k regen. Not counting all the defensive 33% shields we get. You can even spec into an additional arcane shield that auto procs at25%…

Third, do research before making false claims. If I had come to the forums first to check the state on elementalist. I would have never rolled one with the amount of crying on how bad they are. Luckily, I youtubed videos and came upon a player named “excala” who is absolutley amazing. Even gives guides along with high quality WvW and Spvp (non zerg)

Finally, learn your class. Stop being scrubby and constantly crying. Ele does fine when played properly. Its about managing all the stuff you get as an ele and using it at the right times. High skill ceiling is fun, ele is where its at.

You must be new here; here’s a guide by your hero Excala. Class subforums are all about talking about how underpowered the respective class is (except maybe the Guardian subforum).

Your claims would be valid a few months ago. They’re not so much anymore. The cantrip build you mention. That’s ONE build that might have been able to hold out in the current condi meta pre-nerf.

Swapping attunements does indeed bring your survivability up on par with the other classes… if you spec for it. Most people including eles seem to forget they don’t get any healing if they don’t spec for it. The devs agree with you about attunements. That’s 45 points (15 water, 30 arcane) required to survive aside from bursting down your opponent before they can kill you. You also need 1k healing power if you want to heal 2.5k, but unfortunately, you won’t be doing any damage.

The requirement of arcane and/or water outside of full burst builds is a design flaw that hurts the ele’s build diversity and has been brought up constantly since the game was released. You can pretend these problems don’t exist or outright ignore them, but they won’t just go away. I currently just ignore them as my elementalist continues to be my main character since early access, but most people have already rerolled another character.

You should do your research on the state of the elementalist before making outdated claims. While it’s not as bad as a few people make it out to be, we’re not exactly in a great spot either having dropped from taking a top place in a tpvp team composition to having no place.

Well said.

the trick to winning and having high score is “CHANGE CLASS!” whenever i need the high score and have a hard time or simply are too smashed/tired to play my best, i just switch to my necro and easy mode to #1 -.- totally balanced… moronic devs

Adastra.9821:

You must be new here; here’s a guide by your hero Excala. Class subforums are all about talking about how underpowered the respective class is (except maybe the Guardian subforum).

Your claims would be valid a few months ago. They’re not so much anymore. The cantrip build you mention. That’s ONE build that might have been able to hold out in the current condi meta pre-nerf.

Swapping attunements does indeed bring your survivability up on par with the other classes… if you spec for it. Most people including eles seem to forget they don’t get any healing if they don’t spec for it. The devs agree with you about attunements. That’s 45 points (15 water, 30 arcane) required to survive aside from bursting down your opponent before they can kill you. You also need 1k healing power if you want to heal 2.5k, but unfortunately, you won’t be doing any damage.

The requirement of arcane and/or water outside of full burst builds is a design flaw that hurts the ele’s build diversity and has been brought up constantly since the game was released. You can pretend these problems don’t exist or outright ignore them, but they won’t just go away. I currently just ignore them as my elementalist continues to be my main character since early access, but most people have already rerolled another character.

You should do your research on the state of the elementalist before making outdated claims. While it’s not as bad as a few people make it out to be, we’re not exactly in a great spot either having dropped from taking a top place in a tpvp team composition to having no place.

best post of the year. To all those who will not acknowledge the poor state of Elementalist, I will just link your post.

Laken.4056:

Uhg. Ok I am sorry but this needs to be said.

Firstly, elementalist is not your typical MMO style mage. I honestly consider it a battle mage of sorts. You will never get away playing a single element as an elementalist. Its just not how the class works. In order to successfully play ele you need to learn to swap and use your combo barriers. If yo want a single element mage; go play rift or wow.

Second, if you are specing into full assault. Yes, you will be squishy beyond reason in pvp. Its the sacrifice for maxing out burst to be so high. Cantrip builds are absolutley superior survivability in this game as an ele. The healing power we are cabable of is nuts. Which really goes back into my first point of attun swapping. Simply swapping to water is a 2.5k heal+another 2k regen. Not counting all the defensive 33% shields we get. You can even spec into an additional arcane shield that auto procs at25%…

Third, do research before making false claims. If I had come to the forums first to check the state on elementalist. I would have never rolled one with the amount of crying on how bad they are. Luckily, I youtubed videos and came upon a player named “excala” who is absolutley amazing. Even gives guides along with high quality WvW and Spvp (non zerg)

Finally, learn your class. Stop being scrubby and constantly crying. Ele does fine when played properly. Its about managing all the stuff you get as an ele and using it at the right times. High skill ceiling is fun, ele is where its at.

Did you see their latest youtube post?

It is just the same as the ones before all the nerfs, they were running around winding up the enemy, but not doing much else.

The thing anet seem to forget is that these clips they are running against noobs & ye gads, the ones in the latest clip were the worst.

How many times did they get stunned, immob`d etc?
tbh that clip almost looked like a set up to me lol

“Cantrip builds are absolutley superior survivability in this game as an ele”

As an ele cantrip builds may be good, but they are still sod all compared to what other tanky builds can bring.
Also the other classes are inherently better dps then ele, even more so when to survive an ele has to put full arcane & water, leaving sod all else points wise just about.

As for saying about swapping attunements, all those in pvp do, or those that don`t constantly die & re roll, the only ones that don`t are those in pve that the devs watch & comment about that.