Guild Wars 2

This is my problem with Overload and Tempest. Again you are pigeonholing players into one style of play. Only way you’ll get Overload for attuments,is if you go Tempest and that minor Singularity gives you ability to overload. Why is that? Why not actually do diverstiy and give eles love for F1-F4 without going into Tempest.
So if you want Overload,you’ll have to go mandatory Tempest and let’s face it Arcana. Again leaving you with only 1 real choice for 3 trait line.

Please give ALL eles love for F1-F4 without pigeonholing us into Tempest/Arcana line.

The whole point of Elite Specs is to change how the class plays. Following on your argument, even if they added Overload as baseline, they’re still pigeonholing you in that you need to pick Tempest for the weapon and utilities.

Not to mention they’d have to go and add traits to the baseline specialisations to account for the the Overload being baseline.

Necro and Guardian have their class abilities changes, Mesmer gets an additional class ability and Ele get additional functionality to their Attunements.

The point of an elite specialization is exactly to give mechanics/gameplay not found in the base class.

Yeah while we’re at it give all mesmers the new shatter, all necros the ability weapon swao what DS they want, and all guardians the ability to swap around their virtues.

Lets just get rid of elite specializations! … -.-

Yeah let’s play Arcana/Tempest and most likely Fire for dmg,2nd most likely Water(unless healing is off the charts,I doubt Water can be replaced for spvp,given how many cleanses it provides),…wow,what a build diversity. Here and there people might try Fresh Air and maybe Earth line for synergy for protetcion from auras,but I doubt it’ll work with cd’s shouts have.
Tempest,which doesn’t even have reduce cd on shouts trait.

@TheDaiBish
If all eles had Overload as baseline,that wouldn’t that big of deal,because if you don’t go Tempest,you don’t get swiftness,proteticon,auras you’d get some cd reduced from Arcana,but that would bring it around same as Tempest without Arcana. They can even make Overload bit weaker,if you don’t have Tempest…it would just be nice,if all eles can use F1-F4 and get something out of it than just attument swap.

@ Riranor
I know you were joking,but Mesmers have more than enough from this patch. Guardians have 3 virtues…what would they swap?

Empty Sky.6354:

Yeah let’s play Arcana/Tempest and most likely Fire for dmg,2nd most likely Water(unless healing is off the charts,I doubt Water can be replaced for spvp,given how many cleanses it provides),…wow,what a build diversity. Here and there people might try Fresh Air and maybe Earth line for synergy for protetcion from auras,but I doubt it’ll work with cd’s shouts have.
Tempest,which doesn’t even have reduce cd on shouts trait.

So your argument that Tempest will lack diversity is that Tempest will have diversity? I personally plan to go with either a Fire+Air tempest or an Earth+Air tempest but I have a feeling if I want to have my tankiness I’ll need to aim for Water+Acrana but it’s not a necessity. But the Tempest spec, in and of itself, is only 1 type of Elementalist spec. The other lines and their combinations won’t be ‘replaced’ by this elite, just like all the other elite specs.

@TheDaiBish
If all eles had Overload as baseline,that wouldn’t that big of deal,because if you don’t go Tempest,you don’t get swiftness,proteticon,auras you’d get some cd reduced from Arcana,but that would bring it around same as Tempest without Arcana. They can even make Overload bit weaker,if you don’t have Tempest…it would just be nice,if all eles can use F1-F4 and get something out of it than just attument swap.

Then suggest changes to the base ele. I don’t think you’ll get much headway though. Most people find ele is already powerful enough.

I think that is a pipe dream,if you are talking about spvp and going Fire/Air/Tempest or Earth/Air/Tempest. Arcana and it’s Elemental attument alone is a must,Evasive Arcana is icing on top. And that Elemental Contingency is also must + vigor on crit.
Water line will still probably be taken,because you want that cleansing…..so like I said from start…you are pigeonhole into Arcana/Tempest(if you want that Overload) and either Fire or Water for spvp.

What the kitten do I do,but suggest changes to ele. Whole topic is about changing,but people just laugh.

we all know you just want your zerker fire air water ele to also get overload OP…

Thats not how elite spec work. You must understand ele was already top tier dmg in that zerk build. If they add more things to it it will be crazy broken.

DPS ele didnt need any more love, its on top already. So they wanted to give more options to support ele. Thats why tempest dont have % dmg in traits. And his skills are so supportish.

This game is all about DPS now, so I know you feel bad now. That your DPS ele wont get new things. But remember about Anet plan to make support builds usefull in challenging content in HOT.

I will play DPS ele and tempest support ele in HOT. (will also play with condi too)

This is their plan, and it is amazing! Let us play with builds, add more options to different roles and playstyles. Give us opportunity to use that other not DPS builds.

The fun time is near brothers and sisters ele. Lets enjoy!

Isn’t there already enough love for attunement swapping and/or being in an attunement?

Arcane Fury and Elemental Attunement are traits that give you and your allies powerful boons on attunement swapping.

Evasive Arcana, Elemental Contingency, Arance Resurrection, and Inscription are all traits that revolve around your active attunement.

All Tempests really get are a flip skill while being attuned. Right now, if I take Evasive Arcana and dodge in Water Attunement, then I get a heal. Would I really take a flip skill that does nearly the same thing, with a longer cast time, longer cool-down and generally less likely to use (because, who stays in water for more than 10 seconds?)? The majority of Overload skills aren’t worth using for the risk you take while channeling them.

The Tempest Overload/attunement flip skills seem rather weak and unappealing when you compare them to the Arcana specialization that we already have.

@Logos
go troll somewhere else

@ChoChoBo

Every class has traits that enhance F1-F5 (depends on class,how many F# they have). Attuments swaping for eles,is basically weapon swaping. It would be nice,if ele could also benefit from F1-F4 other than swaping attument. Yes,attument swaping is cool and can also be viewed as strong,but gameplay becomes so boring and predictable.
They didn’t need to go the route of Overloading attument,but since they already went there,this is what we are getting,because all the animations and stuff are pretty much done. Only thing they’ll change is numbers (from casting time,how much dmg/heal they do,etc.) They don’t listen to community.

Logos.1306:

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The fun time is near brothers and sisters ele.

Lol.

Stop acting pve is the only game mode. DPS ele sucks in pvp.