Guild Wars 2

First of all I get why you shouldn’t be able to cast Attunement Overload in Mist Form, but can we at least get “You can’t use this skill right now” message instead of 20s CD?
It’s very annoying if you need to activate Overload as soon as posible and you’re screwed by clicking split second too soon.

So if you try overload in mist form it fails and go into 20s cd? instead properly: you try to use overload while in mist form and system alert that you can’t do that and nothing happens?

And about mist form its lack one major thing: leave tranformation. Its tranformation and yet doesn’t have it. I understand negative transform like moa doesn’t have have it, but why putting mist form in line with it?

Mem no Fushia.7604:

So if you try overload in mist form it fails and go into 20s cd? instead properly: you try to use overload while in mist form and system alert that you can’t do that and nothing happens?

It doesn’t exactly fail. As i understand it, overload activates, but as soons as Mist Form ends it cancel overload with it(=>20s CD). So yeah there should definitely be some sort of system alert instead of this.

Mem no Fushia.7604:

And about mist form its lack one major thing: leave tranformation. Its tranformation and yet doesn’t have it. I understand negative transform like moa doesn’t have have it, but why putting mist form in line with it?

That’s whole another rabit hole, sure there are some moments when would be nice to use only 1-1,5s of Mist Form to get out of spike and cancel it manually so you can do other stuff right away, but why bother with something that last for only 3s…

Mem no Fushia.7604:

And about mist form its lack one major thing: leave tranformation. Its tranformation and yet doesn’t have it. I understand negative transform like moa doesn’t have have it, but why putting mist form in line with it?

Like always: for counterplay. While in mist form, you are invuln. But there is still a way to get you down: load the enemy with conditions before he uses mist form. He will die in it then. It’s it downside, giving you 3s of a break, but you aren’t able to do something for 3s too.

And if you would do it for mist form, you had to do it for Elixir S from engineer too. People are already raging about the passive Elixir S proc. Imagine what would happen if engineer could decide to get out of it. xD

Because if it did, we would have to worry about “how to balance overload knowing that the player can mist-form inside it”

I don’t want to balance it, i want to disable it! Right now you can overload in Mist Form, but duration of Mist Form is much shorter than casting time of Overload so you never finish it and instead end up with 20s CD on that attunement.
As if it wasn’t hard enough to finish casting on your own, because you don’t have stability on 3/4 of overloads and believe me that one stack from Harmonious Conduit is not enough. Now you have to make sure you are out of Mist Form as well otherwise you just wasted you overload for 20s.

Kodama.6453:

Mem no Fushia.7604:

And about mist form its lack one major thing: leave tranformation. Its tranformation and yet doesn’t have it. I understand negative transform like moa doesn’t have have it, but why putting mist form in line with it?

Like always: for counterplay. While in mist form, you are invuln. But there is still a way to get you down: load the enemy with conditions before he uses mist form. He will die in it then. It’s it downside, giving you 3s of a break, but you aren’t able to do something for 3s too.

And if you would do it for mist form, you had to do it for Elixir S from engineer too. People are already raging about the passive Elixir S proc. Imagine what would happen if engineer could decide to get out of it. xD

Being not immune to conditions now when there is so much of it is now huge downside now. Especialy immobilize before we go to mist form and you have many crows gathered around you after those 3s when mist form ends.

I think that not being immune to conditions was introduced to make conditions play bigger role, but it was ago when conditions were less massive all around.

So I would think about mist form removing 1 condi every 1s being in that transform starting with dmg condi. At use it could cleans immobilize.

Leave transform would be ok too.

Engi have simmilar thing, do it also swallow conditions like mist form?

I would add one more downside about elixir s it can be traited, so being locked from game when hp below treshold sometimes put you in very iritiating situations.

PS. I don’t really want to use overload and mist form. I just wanted to make clarification about what happens and to improve system messages to not interfere those both with each other. Anyway I don’t have tempest.