Guild Wars 2

Persisting Flames now gives Lava Font another additional tick. PvErs rejoice!!

zencow.3651:

Persisting Flames now gives Lava Font another additional tick. PvErs rejoice!!

It was doing this even pre-patch if I remember correctly So nothing new m8

STRanger.5120:

zencow.3651:

Persisting Flames now gives Lava Font another additional tick. PvErs rejoice!!

It was doing this even pre-patch if I remember correctly So nothing new m8

No, with 30% field increase it was only 5 ticks from 4 when untraited, now it’s 6 ticks from 4 when untraited!

This is about equal to hundred blades damage rather than being slightly under hundred blades.

Also rather than almost having perma-fire field up, it’s truely perma-fire field.

Now take pyromancer’s alacrity along with persisting flames. Hello permanent lava font.

It appears to be a flat 2 second increase to all fire fields.

Adastra.9821:

Now take pyromancer’s alacrity along with persisting flames. Hello permanent lava font.

It’s not exactly permanent

It’s very close to it with very little down time in between just from eyeballing it. This of course also doesn’t consider the delay between laying down the second lava font.

Zelyhn.8069:

Adastra.9821:

Now take pyromancer’s alacrity along with persisting flames. Hello permanent lava font.

It’s not exactly permanent

It is now, try mashing 2 harder :P

It’s still counted as a field during the short time the circle disappears.

But actually that’s kind of strange, because it should be more than permanent!

Lava font cd with trait = 6 * 0.8 = 4.8
Lava font cast = 0.2
Lava font aftercast = 0.2
So effective cd with trait = 4.8 + 0.2 + 0.2 = 5.2
Lava font duration with persisting flames = 4 + 2 = 6

But when I tried it myself I would find a little interruption in the lava font uptime in between casts.
Can someone test this again?

The lava font duration appears correct with the 6 ticks. Are your cast and aftercast numbers correct?

Adastra.9821:

The lava font duration appears correct with the 6 ticks. Are your cast and aftercast numbers correct?

These numbers were data mined by DEKeyzToChaos.7381. He is using a method that I thoroughly approve for frame counting.

Also these are the numbers stated in the patchnotes some time ago.

I don’t have numbers, but it seems that it’s another traited skill version issue among many that Anet has.

Without taking Persisting Flames the Lava Font cast of 0.2 cast and 0.2 aftercast is true seen by how you can throw a fireball mid-arm swing of the Lava Font cost.

With Persisting Flames however, it seems like that version of Lava Font still uses the old cast times, with you being able to throw a fireball later in the cast animation.

Edit: actually, I can’t tell the difference, it’s not very consistent judging by animation and my internal clock isn’t good enough to tell

Something interesting I just noticed.

Cast lava font and notice how long it takes for the skill to go on cd (count those “flashes” while the skill is in use, it does this about 3 times)

Now press lava font and flame burst immediately after. Lava font appears to start its cd a little earlier than in the first case (1 flash).

Yes actually Sabull noticed the same thing recently.
He sent me a private video to show this so I would have to wait for his permission to transmit it to you.

Basically what he is saying is that the lava font cast responsiveness and cd maybe affected by whether or not you were casting something before casting lava font.

I’m thinking this may have something to do with when they reduced the aftercast on a whole bunch of staff skills but they didn’t change some hardcoded values related to cooldowns.

Some skills immediately go on the “mini cooldown” when they’re cancelled. What we’re seeing may be the second skill, for example flame burst, cancelling the aftercast cooldown.

I also noticed that the lava font cd doesn’t start until my elementalist’s left hand goes back to the normal position holding my staff (i.e. the aftercast) which supports what I said above with the second skill cancelling the aftercast animation of the hand.