Potentially gamebreaking D/D build
cool concept ill give it a try and provide feedback
Bad Elementalist
Very clickbait on that title.
Build doesn’t seem terrible, but don’t forget that auras also give you vigor, and so that means every shout except “Eye of the Storm” gives you vigor, meaning feel the burn is worth considering over cleansing flame (you lose a some cleanse, but gain an extra heal, more vigor, plus some for team-mates). Likewise, rebound will give you vigor more frequently than tornado, even if you just spammed it off-cd. Tornado is just so bad….
In the end, I don’t think you’ll be able to bang bodies in 1v1’s with warriors, druids, scrappers, or chronos (although chrono might be close if you play it well). This is definitely not a teamfight build (melee only, not much support, not that much damage), so wants to do be able to 1v1 effectively.
Also, you might be a little low on the protection side of things. Something like rune of the earth or leadership runes might actually be better on this.
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I think it overuses vigor. I would pick arcane presicion. Otherwise its very nice. Was thinking about an adaption.
The burn duration is nice but i think the condi damage is equal. As blackeard mentioned. Leadership rune with rebound looks great in this build. Its a boon build.
That armor of earth CD reduction is powerful. It might actually bring back cantrip duel ele … So you build with rebound and leadership plus traiting arcane precision is something to try.
Here’s the build with Blackbeard and Wolfric’s suggestions
I’ll try it out later.
Latent Stamina’s endurance fill just blew me away once I realized all the available options so I rushed through the build.
I think its a solid alround version. A bit lower constant damage but good boon duration.
I personaly like cleansing flame. I kill a lot with it and its a strong condi remover.
But it´s a matter of taste.
Here goes your D/D bruiser :-). In skilled hands this can be great.
I expect it´s not good for average or below players. You watch the combat and use your instants and dodges flexible. Spaming will outright kill you. No armor and low protection uptime. Any focus fire will instakill you if you are not good.
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I tested it a few matches. The endurance was noticable but having 1 stun break still made it difficult. I want to incorperate it into a power build so ill play with it some more but so far it hasn’t been gamebreaking
Bad Elementalist
I swapped Signet of Restoration for Wash The Pain Away. Good support and damage, boon upkeep is amazing. Dodges keep me alive longer than I should be.
I usualy go for wash the pain away with sage and i use the glyph when i don´t have healing power amulet.
But i played earth/arcan/tempest with focus and soldier rune. Damage output is average but damage mitigation is strong.
What i like on sage builds is that they have significant support and maintain OK damage. The just don´t heal as much as the menders or magi types.
i actually run that trait spread in wvw from time to time, its pretty nice, you get a ton of dodges, especially with energy sigil being stronger in wvw.
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Flash-Freeze for Feel the Burn is a nice change. Makes the build more mean.
Not viable in North America wvw you’d get cc ripped and die like a kitten. 1 stun break high level Zerker Warrior would cc cleave you to death with a 1 to 7 of you attack trade. Core ele is way, way more reliable unless you are relying on zerg love. In wvw you get multi CC in team fights or GVG let alone a out numbered zerg fight. Tempest 333 or 133 safer but still you’ die either with earth and water as filler or arcane and water.
Unless you are fighting in Europe you can roll that but no dice in NA. Well if you play in the mornings the pve wvw or oceanic or euro are bad enough to eat you soft cc and damage. However, if you play prime time for example 6pm-12am pacific time you’re in for a treat
Tempest is tricky!! Use overloads to bait Headbutts and then DODGE but odds are you’ll have a full endurance bar…
Evasive Acana is hard to hit with as it has a small radius and triggers at the end of a dodge. That means you have to dodge towards the target. I don’t know not a fan I guess. The endurance gain didnt seem game breaking. I feel better served by earth over Arcane because of the protection on auras and diamond skin still screws over some builds like burn guardians.
To be fair wouldn’t it be way better with 3 cantrips instead (flash, earth armor and cleansing fire), change invigorating torrents for tempestrous aria and use a warhorn instead of a dagger?
I mean, you lose some burst and mobility but you gain a reliable way to stack might on yourself and, more importantly, inflict weakness on your opponents as a workaround to low protection uptime.
I feel like this build already has a lot of cleanses and will probably have more troubles against power heavy builds rather than against condition based builds (with the exception of Necro that will probably remain Ele’s worst nightmare forever). You’d lose the cleanse provided by the aura of Rebound and completed OL casts, but earn a lot of might + weakness on enemies.
Any thougts?
edit : silly me, I forgot about the heal for each aura provided by elemential bastion. However using Imbued Melodies instead would allow for a nice boon uptime and remove the need for a boon centric rune.
edit 2 : Screw me. I just realized that Warhorn skills are not treated as Shouts. I always assumed they were. Well, this post shall remain as a testimony of my own stupidity.
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If anyone wants a 20% damage increase, swap Fire for Arcane and go bot/top/mid (or top)
If anyone wants more defense, swap Earth for Arcane and go bot/bot/bot (or top)
Rune of the Soldier is also a pretty good rune if running Earth.
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i know i always come back to fire/earth/tempest with soldier and sage …. I don´t feel water is much better. OK it will cleanse and regen more from the team…
Still not viable vs most zerker warriors with GS Mace and Shield. Haven’t you guys even wvw at all lol. You see them cleave team easily. My core ele kills 95% of all tempest on field unless they are running pure healing stats and in that case deal less that 15% damage to me. Come on there has to be some serious core d/d ele players in wvw North America and can understand. Most tempest builds are for team support covering havoc dps or condi unloads. Not true solo 1v1. PM in game tell me where and I’ll bring my core ele or go fight some High level Zerker warriors go to warrior forum and call out their vets in wvw. Then let’s talk again.
i know i always come back to fire/earth/tempest with soldier and sage …. I don´t feel water is much better. OK it will cleanse and regen more from the team…
May I ask you at what lvl do you play?
The build is the most fun for me. I win in EU gold and in silver there is not much oposition.
It does significant damage while maintaining OK support. Yes using water makes it better in support and usually focusing on your role is good in a teamfight but it´s solo Q.
I would play it in platin too and stand my ground. I will loose there by being outplayed but i know my build can wreck meta builds.
The build is the most fun for me. I win in EU gold and in silver there is not much oposition.
It does significant damage while maintaining OK support. Yes using water makes it better in support and usually focusing on your role is good in a teamfight but it´s solo Q.
I would play it in platin too and stand my ground. I will loose there by being outplayed but i know my build can wreck meta builds.
I don’t know if this was an answer to my question but if it was you misunderstood me. I was really just asking about your rank, out of curiosity.