Pros and cons of Warhorn and Focus

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Posted by: Abelisk.4527

Abelisk.4527

Hi. I’ve been running Dagger/Warhorn for a while now.

Traits: water 1/3/1, earth 3/3/3, tempest 3/2/3.
Sigils: Sigil of renewal on dagger, sigil of transference on warhorn
Rune: Rune of Soldier
Amulet: Mender’s
Heal: Wash the Pain Away
Utilities (from left to right): Feel the Burn, Flash-Freeze, Aftershock
Elite: Rebound!

I’m running Aquamancer’s Training because Warhorn’s 4 and 5 have some insane healing. The 5 skill also grants regeneration when coupled with Earth 4 and sometimes Earth 3. This yields a potential of up to three condi cleanses, just shy from Focus earth 4’s 4 condi cleanse.

So what are pros and cons of each? Thanks.

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Posted by: Black Iris Flowers.3418

Black Iris Flowers.3418

Warhorn has some slow skills and take positioning, mobile targets tend to move out of the fields. However you have a fire and water field for aoe might or healing, you get boons from 4/8 skills (might, regen, swiftness, protection, plus magnetic aura from earth 4), and Cyclone (air 4) is one of the best CCs Ele’s have for breaking stun bar. I personally main warhorn for the might stacks (fire 4 directly and fire 5 is a field), strong water heals, and Cyclone’s swiftness boost and CC.

The best thing about focus is invulnerability from Obsidian Flesh. Air 4 and Earth 4 protect from projectiles. Air 5 is also a strong CC but not as strong as Cyclone. I don’t like Fire 4 as the target area is quite small, but Fire 5 grants an aura to synergize with Invigorating Torrents (tempest trait: auras give regen and vigor). Water skills are why I don’t use focus. A simple chill (water 4) is very weak given the 25 sec cooldown and Comet (water 5) takes a long time to drop.

Conclusion: Warhorn has strong heals, more might stacking potential, and a strong CC but poor positioning can be punishing. Focus has a valuable invulnerability skill, condi clear, projectile protection, and a decent CC, but no healing and a smaller burn area.

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Posted by: juno.1840

juno.1840

Focus Air 5 knock-down… I love it.

Part of me thinks that someone in ANet was thinking “hey, wanna see something funny? Watch this…”

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Posted by: reikken.4961

reikken.4961

warhorn: god tier PvE. Good AoEs with strong effects, for damage, defense, and support. But the skills are slow, delayed, so it’s not as great against players, who can avoid them.

focus: amazing personal defense and solid single target cc, but offers little else

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Posted by: Excelvior.8520

Excelvior.8520

I am guessing from his build that OP speaks about PVP
personally I find warhorn extremely slow for PVP and I cannot part with focus earth 5 which is the ultimate savior/safestomp.

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Posted by: Abelisk.4527

Abelisk.4527

Oh oops! This is about PvP. Sorry about that.
Nevertheless, interesting responses so far.
What seems particularly intriguing is that Warhorn doesn’t have any really slow skills that are meant only to do damage. I use the slowest (Tidal Surge) for Healing me and allies, granting regeneration as well as cleaning off a condi. The second slowest offensive, air 5, has a really large area of coverage. You can have enemies far from it, but the orb will be shooting small-but-potent projectiles that stack vulnerability and can do decent damage especially if they crit.

The second two offensives, fire 5 and earth 5, I use very often. I place them over nodes/points for protection so that if I’m being followed and attacked, the enemies will slowly but surely be damaged. The fire 5 also provides an excellent might field.

Water 5 heals a whopping 3k with this build if one were to stay within it for its 4 pulses. It’s a water field too.

Air 4 is great CC especially at close range. So far I haven’t had any real problems with Warhorn, perhaps the fire field and earth 5 can load faster, and heat sync can transfer all boons, not just fury and might. Otherwise, it feels great playing with it.

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Posted by: EriskRedLemur.7153

EriskRedLemur.7153

Imo it’s simple – WH is superior support/buff/boons w/ CC. Focus is defensive/utility/condi clear – solo/selfish/survival. It offers no heals/boons, some CC/projectile.

If I am, an often am supportish, I easily go WH. It’s too good for the boon/heals for allies. Focus earth and air are the main reasons focus is so good; I mean, earth 5 come on, if I was roaming/small group or pure DPS focused I’d go D/F easily.

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

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I mainly play with a friend 2 player roaming and use focus. I don´t trait water and use mainly the three other elements and swap throuh water often just firing one skill (i get regen from arcane traitline) . The shouts are enough support in this setup rest is kill and survive so much more offensive. Obsidian flesh as a savestomp is very valuable and air5 if someone goes into block mode is often a kill. Tried warhorn, but in fast fights against 1-3 players it´s to clunky and we avoid engaging 4+.