Guild Wars 2

So About WP’s Condi tempest [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKnSjhdl7U ]
Been very interested running this build, so I’ve got a few questions:

1. Can anyone make some comparison between Warhorn and Focus for this? Honestly I just feel there’s lots of DPS loss because of how small Fire wall is :\

2. How much of a dps loss is using Carrion/Rampager? I’m worried since Ele’s skills are very hybrid, so it feels like I might just lose a tone of damage not running Power stat gear [Sinister/Viper].
Whats your experience with this? How glassy is this spec? I’ve been playing HoT for a while and noticed there are some encounters I just can’t melee without constantly dying on a glassy set, so I’m really worried about running a glassy set …
3. WP talks about how the sigils and food comes together and all, but I’m not really clear on what I should run [especially on low budget] in terms of Food/sigils

Would love some opinios here ,
Thanks in advance

Edit:
Talking strictly PvE here

When going to such a level in maximizing damage/efficiency its very important to split PvE and WvW (PvP). The max damage build in PvE would propably get torn to pieces in WvW.

Wolfric.9380:

When going to such a level in maximizing damage/efficiency its very important to split PvE and WvW (PvP). The max damage build in PvE would propably get torn to pieces in WvW.

It’s a PvE build ofc , forgot to mention

And please let me make myself clear, I’m not trying to mix/max. Just trying to see how much am I losing here, and if It’s worth it for my own comfort

I’ve run this using Viper and Sinister, or at least a version of it. I choose Earth over Arcane mainly for the option to run Signet of Fire and use it on everything, and can choose to run signet heal if solo too. Plus the extra condition damage doesn’t hurt either.

1. I choose Focus over Warhorn because I like the defensive options more as they allow me to use more damage oriented gear instead of needing Vitality/Toughness and give very good break bar options. Learning to place Flamewall properly is just a matter of getting used to it. Damage wise? I believe Flamewall stacks more burns (which is your main source of condi damage) than Wildfire, but skill wise it comes down to Focus allowing more damage oriented gear than warhorn.

2. I don’t particularly have trouble with much in HoT using this, just sometimes takes a little longer since it’s condi damage. I’d personally stick to Viper/Sinister stats if you want the highest damage (Viper specifically).

3. Smoldering sigil + Balthazar runes + Bowl of Sweet and Spicy Beans + Toxic Fusing Crystal = 95% burning duration increase. Burning is your main source of condi damage so this is how it all comes together.

Here’s a breakdown of what I run normally (note this isn’t BiS and I’m swapping to Vipers ATM):

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJAoNn0XClNgNNA+XiFBAzt1ObztBBgQ5BYIGsDKCA-TxhAABVr+DM7PctyPOOBASqEEgHAQ06BIFgYLrA-e

Raif.9507:

I’ve run this using Viper and Sinister, or at least a version of it. I choose Earth over Arcane mainly for the option to run Signet of Fire and use it on everything, and can choose to run signet heal if solo too. Plus the extra condition damage doesn’t hurt either.

1. I choose Focus over Warhorn because I like the defensive options more as they allow me to use more damage oriented gear instead of needing Vitality/Toughness and give very good break bar options. Learning to place Flamewall properly is just a matter of getting used to it. Damage wise? I believe Flamewall stacks more burns (which is your main source of condi damage) than Wildfire, but skill wise it comes down to Focus allowing more damage oriented gear than warhorn.

2. I don’t particularly have trouble with much in HoT using this, just sometimes takes a little longer since it’s condi damage. I’d personally stick to Viper/Sinister stats if you want the highest damage (Viper specifically).

3. Smoldering sigil + Balthazar runes + Bowl of Sweet and Spicy Beans + Toxic Fusing Crystal = 95% burning duration increase. Burning is your main source of condi damage so this is how it all comes together.

Here’s a breakdown of what I run normally (note this isn’t BiS and I’m swapping to Vipers ATM):

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJAoNn0XClNgNNA+XiFBAzt1ObztBBgQ5BYIGsDKCA-TxhAABVr+DM7PctyPOOBASqEEgHAQ06BIFgYLrA-e

1. I’ve been running D/F for a while now and honest to god I just can’t fathom whats so defensive about it. Sure, it has some nice defensive utility, but overall when you’re health goes down there’s not much you can do [Other than the earth 5, which is on a really long cooldown], Isn’t Wh more defensive/supportish?
2. Really? is it also true with legendary boss encounters? Take Vinetooth, or Deldimeer blademaster [The legendary boss from Dragon’s stand, can’t really remember her name), I honestly don’t know how can anyone melee these (Other than mesmers, with their ridiculous evade/invuln uptime)
3. Thanks. What 2nd sigil would you run?

SrebX.6498:

1. I’ve been running D/F for a while now and honest to god I just can’t fathom whats so defensive about it. Sure, it has some nice defensive utility, but overall when you’re health goes down there’s not much you can do [Other than the earth 5, which is on a really long cooldown], Isn’t Wh more defensive/supportish?
2. Really? is it also true with legendary boss encounters? Take Vinetooth, or Deldimeer blademaster [The legendary boss from Dragon’s stand, can’t really remember her name), I honestly don’t know how can anyone melee these (Other than mesmers, with their ridiculous evade/invuln uptime)
3. Thanks. What 2nd sigil would you run?

1. Invuln (earth 5) + condi clear & reflect (earth 4) on earth, projectile destruction + super long knockdown (that does a huge chunk of break bar damage) on air, kiting potential + daze on water (another huge chunk of break bar damage). With the 2 CC options you have you can pretty much solo break most break bars I’ve run into (this isn’t including legendaries) I wouldn’t say that Warhorn is more defensive than focus at all, it’s different forms of defense. Warhorn is heals/blinds where as focus is just straight mitigation. Focus is pretty much the ultimate in self defense if you play your cooldowns, dodges and evades correctly. You can either reflect all projectiles or destroy them (snipers/frogs come to mind) or just ignore the damage altogether. You can also swap to the Earth trait that reduces cooldowns for Earth + faster recovery from movement impairing conditions and have an invuln on a 33 second cooldown and 3 condi clear + reflect on a 16 second cooldown at the cost of a small amount of condition damage. Your heals are coming from the fact you can use Signet heal active and passive as well as just straight up mitigating any damage whatsoever.

2. You have to keep in mind you are not really “melee”, you have longer range than any other melee skill in the game. Signet of Fire has 1200 range to it, flamewall has 900 range, drakes breath has 400 range. These are easy to use and land since you’re not really in melee range. The only thing that is “hard” is your fire overload because that’s a 180 range and is a large source of damage for you, but that is knowing when and where you can channel it for those tough fights. Those are the main sources of damage along with your burning speed which is an evade built in. You can out range most melee mobs and if needed take a breather by backing off and still keep up damage. And with focus if something caught up to you , then you just cripple it with Earth 4 or chill it with Water 4 and laugh.

3. I linked to you what I currently am running, but I use Sigil of Earth so I can keep up bleeds. You can use lifesteal instead like Sigil of Blood too. Another extremely good option is to run Signet of Earth to keep up bleeding on a foe and run Sigil of Bursting.

Also, I haven’t decided if I like the lower recharge on Fire skills over the condition damage based on power. Both are super nice as more condi damage = more damage but lower cooldown on flamewall + drake’s breath is also very important.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/The-Sand-Squall-Tempest-Raid-Tank

This link has a post about the condi tempest. I personally run a variant with scepter/warhorn, earth, fire and tempest as traits and the fire shout, fire signet and run speed signet. For elite i mostly use the glyph of elemental.

My damage is a hybrid between power and condi damage since my gear sucks. HoT content goes very smooth though, even easier then my herald or chrono.
Cheers

The build you’re looking for is here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Condi-Tempest-Build-for-PvE-22k-DPS

Neko.9021:

The build you’re looking for is here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Condi-Tempest-Build-for-PvE-22k-DPS

This. This is the build that WP is using. I did try this build out in high level fractals – it’s a bit too squishy for my taste. I prefer running the my personal variation of the “sand squall” tank condi ele thread that was posted here as well

Element.4319:

Neko.9021:

The build you’re looking for is here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Condi-Tempest-Build-for-PvE-22k-DPS

This. This is the build that WP is using. I did try this build out in high level fractals – it’s a bit too squishy for my taste. I prefer running the my personal variation of the “sand squall” tank condi ele thread that was posted here as well

Could you post it please? I’m looking for something with a bit more sustain myself