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Posted by: EremiteAngel.9765

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Hey Tempests!
I fought a tempest as a reaper recently at the 8:30 part of this video.
Was wondering if there was anything I or the tempest did well or could have done better.
Thanks in advance!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrwY7C26mzY

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Posted by: Naurgalen.2374

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Ele

1) He should have run, winning vs most reapers means that the reaper did some big mistakes. (it depends on the build too)
2) Using d/d in wvw?
3) No rebound for extra aura or ele for extra dmg? (maybe at the end he tried to use? didn’t see well, but if that’s the case that’s bad timing too)
4) Overloading without stability/earth aura

Reaper

1) You eated ALL the shocking auras both from offhand dagger air and from finishing the overload (you can know fast if he has offhand dagger by how fast the covered ground to get you – focus and warhorn have no movement skills and while watching the aura is tricky you can assume he has it when he is in air and you are meleeing him)
2) You tanked all the first overload… waiting for him to waste his Armor of Earth by running away and engaging latter would have been better (he looses protection and cant get safe overloads in a looong time)

Reaper (Debatable)

- I don’t like “nothing can save you” and “rise”, I think that it can be seen in that battle that they didn’t do too much to hep you
- I would wait for 4+ burning stacks to return, when u know he has committed to do dmg or you have half HP (you used on 3, which is not really bad)
- I play a little safer by staying more in reaper form, which is really strong vs ele (chills, poison and fear+ tons of dmg), but that’s me

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Posted by: EremiteAngel.9765

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Ele

1) He should have run, winning vs most reapers means that the reaper did some big mistakes. (it depends on the build too)
2) Using d/d in wvw?
3) No rebound for extra aura or ele for extra dmg? (maybe at the end he tried to use? didn’t see well, but if that’s the case that’s bad timing too)
4) Overloading without stability/earth aura

Reaper

1) You eated ALL the shocking auras both from offhand dagger air and from finishing the overload (you can know fast if he has offhand dagger by how fast the covered ground to get you – focus and warhorn have no movement skills and while watching the aura is tricky you can assume he has it when he is in air and you are meleeing him)
2) You tanked all the first overload… waiting for him to waste his Armor of Earth by running away and engaging latter would have been better (he looses protection and cant get safe overloads in a looong time)

Reaper (Debatable)

- I don’t like “nothing can save you” and “rise”, I think that it can be seen in that battle that they didn’t do too much to hep you
- I would wait for 4+ burning stacks to return, when u know he has committed to do dmg or you have half HP (you used on 3, which is not really bad)
- I play a little safer by staying more in reaper form, which is really strong vs ele (chills, poison and fear+ tons of dmg), but that’s me

Thanks for the suggestions!
They are very useful for me to learn from.

1) I would like to ask about the shocking aura though. Is that the one where if I hit the tempest, I will get stun/dazed or is it the lighting strikes from the sky when he overloads air attunement?
2) Thanks for the tip to run away when he first entered earth armor. It didn’t occur to me as a Necro since it isn’t often that we get to run away from our opponents XD but now we got the shroud leap it might be possible! But I wonder if I would have ran off far enough to get out of his lighting aoe radius =/

Also I think he immobilized me when he first charged up to me…so I wouldn’t have been able to escape from him easily when he first had his earth armor on.
how did he do that? is that a trait or utility skill?

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Posted by: Naurgalen.2374

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1) Yep, shocking aura is the thing that interrupts you every time you hit them in melee range. It has a low duration (4secs), so if you see it or are stunned by it just wait a little to continue your attack.
2) Air overload has just 360 range and while you cast it you cant use movement skills (well maybe telep but for me that would be a waste on most situations) so depending on where you are when he starts casting it you can just dodge-roll and walk away instead of using a movement skills. I normally use something that gives me swiftness (mostly warhorns locust swarm, but sometimes spectral walk) with my reaper because he is SO slow and in WvW you need to cover lots of ground, that can help you in these fights.


- The inmo probably was a earth dagger skill, but he cant cast it while overloading and its just 2 secs, even if he tries to “combo” those skills you can still dodge most of the overload. Most eles would just hit you in air or try to burn you.
- 1 thing more: you could have stayed a little more with the staff (the first attack taking the initiative was really good), d/d ele has no ranged attacks and you can put in your feet many wells making him dodge or get free dmg / conditions.

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Posted by: Akbaroth.2861

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Hi, just wanted to point out Shocking Aura is a main-hand dagger skill, not offhand.

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Posted by: Naurgalen.2374

Naurgalen.2374

Hi, just wanted to point out Shocking Aura is a main-hand dagger skill, not offhand.

Yep, my bad!

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Posted by: EremiteAngel.9765

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I’m seeing more and more staff tempest roamers in WvW.
And they are surprisingly pretty strong!
I fought one staff ele at the end of the vid and one ele in the mid that I couldn’t tell what weapon he was using =/ dagger + something?

How did the tempests and I do this time?

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Posted by: Spicy.2481

Spicy.2481

I’m seeing more and more staff tempest roamers in WvW.
And they are surprisingly pretty strong!
I fought one staff ele at the end of the vid and one ele in the mid that I couldn’t tell what weapon he was using =/ dagger + something?

How did the tempests and I do this time?

He is using dagger+focus.

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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

FrownyClown.8402

The d/f ele was very bad on top of being at a disadvantage vs reaper. The staff ele wasn’t terrible but spent too much time trying to damage you in shroud instead of kiting it. He honestly didn’t put out enough damage to reasonably beat you unless you made a mistake with shroud


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Posted by: Yannir.4132

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I actually don’t have much to say on the ele fights but against the DH you atleast made the same mistake several times. Don’t attack when he has Shield of Courage up. You need to kite with staff when he puts that up. Preferably staff 5 so it breaks the shield. When fighting DH, you should save that unblockable fear for that very occasion.

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Posted by: EremiteAngel.9765

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I’m seeing more and more staff tempest roamers in WvW.
And they are surprisingly pretty strong!
I fought one staff ele at the end of the vid and one ele in the mid that I couldn’t tell what weapon he was using =/ dagger + something?

How did the tempests and I do this time?

He is using dagger+focus.

ah…thanks! no wonder the skills seemed different from a D/D ele.

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The d/f ele was very bad on top of being at a disadvantage vs reaper. The staff ele wasn’t terrible but spent too much time trying to damage you in shroud instead of kiting it. He honestly didn’t put out enough damage to reasonably beat you unless you made a mistake with shroud

I thought he would outsustain me but in the end I prevailed =/
which surprised me…because he just kept healing and healing…

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I actually don’t have much to say on the ele fights but against the DH you atleast made the same mistake several times. Don’t attack when he has Shield of Courage up. You need to kite with staff when he puts that up. Preferably staff 5 so it breaks the shield. When fighting DH, you should save that unblockable fear for that very occasion.

i was trying to see if I could rotate and get behind the DH when he had his shield of courage up XD
I don’t run with unblockable marks sadly so I really am at a loss on what to do when he ups his Shield of courage…
The only thing I could possibly do is save up my corrupt boon for when he ups his shield to corrupt his stab and fear him and buy me some kiting time.

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