Guild Wars 2

I’ve seen a number of threads complaining about how bad elementalist elites are. Which race (for its elite skils) do you recommend to make up for this?

Asura master race. Our elites blow, but the Elemental is honestly fine, don’t listen to people who say otherwise. We also get Radiation Field which is a handy little utility skill in group fights.

The Hounds of Balthazar are pretty strong on Humans if you really want a racial elite.

ton’t know about Asura but Sylvari is pretty good, better then human ele, 4 more elite skills the human, human has 3 & add 4 to that, so Sylvari has 7 elite skills, Sylvari is different a bit, human is worse choice for ele, u can play but its not as good

Sugram.3106:

ton’t know about Asura but Sylvari is pretty good, better then human ele, 4 more elite skills the human, human has 3 & add 4 to that, so Sylvari has 7 elite skills, Sylvari is different a bit, human is worse choice for ele, u can play but its not as good

The more you post the more I’m convinced you’re really just a troll trying very hard. Everything you post is so random and utterly wrong.

Intigo.1653:

Sugram.3106:

ton’t know about Asura but Sylvari is pretty good, better then human ele, 4 more elite skills the human, human has 3 & add 4 to that, so Sylvari has 7 elite skills, Sylvari is different a bit, human is worse choice for ele, u can play but its not as good

The more you post the more I’m convinced you’re really just a troll trying very hard. Everything you post is so random and utterly wrong.

how am i wrong? i speak truth, Sylvari has more elite skills then human, it also my experience from the game, i talk from my experiences

Norn rules, who cares about racials anyway.. they suck :P

though elementalist elites arent great either..

also

Sylvari has more elite skills then human

depends. if by elite you mean usefull. yes
if you mean elite as in the elite skillslot you get at level 30.your trolling

since both human as well as sylvari have 3 elite racials

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Ok thankyou all for such…inspiring replies. Can anyone actually tell me, which races elites best make up for Ele weak elites?

I love my norn female (shortest height). No I don’t use the elites in PVP, but I have awesome tats and abs.

Honestly it doesn’t even matter. None of the racials really shine neither do out ele class elites. Play whatever looks good to you. Sorry, but that’s all there really is to it.

TheGuy.3568:

Honestly it doesn’t even matter. None of the racials really shine neither do out ele class elites. Play whatever looks good to you. Sorry, but that’s all there really is to it.

^this is pretty much spot on, you should listen to the man Helos.

The Elemental Elite is probably the best one we have for sPvP and tPvP, every class has access to it. Tornado pretty much sucks (no pun intended), but I have taken to using it on occasion in PvP (if you’re going to use it, the trick is to cast it, and then immediately cancel it. You’re only using it for the 15 seconds of stability, that’s it. DO NOT stay in the animation unless you wish to die quickly). Elemental is also best for PvE content (imo) because you can summon the Earth Elemental and have it tank for you. Very good.

As far as racial elites go, each race has a somewhat useful one, they are as follows:

The Asuran golem is very good, but is basically another form of the Elemental.

For Humans, Hounds of Balthazaar are also good, but again, just another summon.

Norns have snow leopard form, this is pretty good in WvW cause you gain access to dash and prowl (which gives stealth). Not a great racial elite, but situationally useful. Norns are probably the worst racial elite Elementalist, but thats just my opinion.

Charr have Artillery Barrage and Charzooka (note, I have never used a Charr racial elite, so i’m not an expert here). I would imagine artillery barrage would be useful in WvW for clearing walls when Meteor shower is on cooldown, and while Charzooka is great for wall nuking, it replaces your weapon skill bar (like an engineer kit), so it has it drawbacks. War party might also be good, as it’s more summons.

For Sylvari (my Ele race), take root is awesome in WvW because it grants 10 seconds of immunity and the turrets it spawns do good damage. It’s great for avoiding enemy AOE nukes when taking keeps, etc. The other two racials are just more summons, basically more Elementals.

There ya go, my 2 copper…

Sylvari’s Take Root if you just want a different and potentially good elite. But I wouldn’t choose a race just based on that. This class can certainly work around its current selection of elites just fine enough, and for pve at least the glyph elite works great if you use the right attune to fit the situation.

The aura 30 point golem feels tankier than the earth elemental and has some decent range damage…. but I find a lot more utility in our standard elemental… for instance the water elemental creates a water field you can use with a finisher for extra healing. Pay attention to their attacks and you can figure out how to incorporate them as something more than just a “dumb” (as in you have no control over) source of damage and an aggro dump.

I am loving my human racials, but that is because of my play style. I am a d/d spec initiator who is all about my AoE crowd control.

Reaper of Grenth is great because it does not prevent me from using any other skills, it just adds a nice chill/poison tick to everyone around me for 15 seconds.

Avatar of Melandru is insanely powerful, especially when fighting in WvW against 5-10 people. The trick is to not stand around as the Avatar after you have fired off your 3 usefull skills. RTL into a group, throw up aoe aura, switch to earth and knockdown, cast avatar, hit your aoe root, aoe toughness buff, healing spring. Cancel out of avatar and dominate.

I play as a group player, so my entire spec and play style is focused around what helps my group win.

Sugram.3106:

Intigo.1653:

Sugram.3106:

ton’t know about Asura but Sylvari is pretty good, better then human ele, 4 more elite skills the human, human has 3 & add 4 to that, so Sylvari has 7 elite skills, Sylvari is different a bit, human is worse choice for ele, u can play but its not as good

The more you post the more I’m convinced you’re really just a troll trying very hard. Everything you post is so random and utterly wrong.

how am i wrong? i speak truth, Sylvari has more elite skills then human, it also my experience from the game, i talk from my experiences

Sylvari have:
1 Racial Healing Skill (Healing Seed)
2 Racial Utility Skills (Grasping Vine & Seed Turret)
3 Racial Elite Skills (Summon Druid Spirit, Summon Fern Mastiff, Take Root)

Humans have:
1 Racial Healing Skill (Prayer to Dwayna)
2 Racial Utility Skills (Prayer to Kormir, Prayer to Lyssa)
3 Racial Elite Skills (Avatar of Melandru, Reaper of Grenth, Hounds of Balthasar)

You’ll see here that Sylvari and Humans have the exact same number of Racial Skills, and the exact same distribution of those skills across the three types. 4 out of 5 races have only 3 Elite Skills – the exception being Norn, who have 4 Racial Elites and only 2 Racial Utilities. Charr and Asura have 3 Racial Utility Skills, 3 Racial Elite Skills.

If you mean “elite skills” as a qualitative assessment of the skills relative strengths, then to avoid confusion you may want to look for a synonym that’s not actually used by the game in a specific way. Even then, no race can have 7 “elite” Racial Skills, using “elite” to signify a skill of particular high quality rather than a skill that’s unlocked at level 30 in slot 0, because no race has more than 6 Racial Skills total. Now if your intention was to suggest that a Human Elementalist, between Human Skills and Elementalist Skills, has 6 skills total that are strong enough you’d consider them “elite”, while a Sylvari has 7 skills total that strong due to one more of their Racial Skills matching your qualifications for “elite”-strength, that makes sense, but your use of terminology in ways other than the official on definitions has created a great deal of confusion. If so, you may want to take a break from posting to visit the Wiki and get up to date on the official lexicon, so you can have better success communicating clearly with other players in the future..

Bsquared.3421:

For Sylvari (my Ele race), take root is awesome in WvW because it grants 10 seconds of immunity and the turrets it spawns do good damage. It’s great for avoiding enemy AOE nukes when taking keeps, etc. The other two racials are just more summons, basically more Elementals.

There ya go, my 2 copper…

If you can show how you get 10 seconds out of Take Root I would be greatly impressed. Last time I used that I only got about 3-4. I am not in-game to test it out but I think I get my boon extenstion added. It is a very good skill to prevent dying or damage, for a few seconds anyway. It has a 150 sec cooldown too.

I was thinking when I went Sylvari that I would really like the Grasping Vines that entangles a target until the vines are destroyed. In practice though they only work if the target is standing still when the spell is cast. The spell is cast at the ground where the target is standing and there is a delay before the vines grow. That so destroyed their usefullness I stopped using them. If the roots grew immediately and could root a moving target, that would be great.

The two racial elite summons have 180 and 240 sec cooldowns where the elite Elemental summons is only a 120 sec cooldown. I can’t speak to how useful the Druid Spirit and Fern Mastiff are. I only paid attention when I cast them to see what the graphics looked like lol, and they do look cool.

For all the good they do, I rarely load any racial skills.

Wasnt gonna say anything because its really powerful but Albane already spilled the beans… Avatar of Melandru trumps all the racials clutter for WvW hands down.

My guild has over 30 Elementalists and we usually get 10 online for WvW action, 10 AoE roots + 10 Meteor Showers = Badgetastic.

Whoopin.2943:

Wasnt gonna say anything because its really powerful but Albane already spilled the beans… Avatar of Melandru trumps all the racials clutter for WvW hands down.

My guild has over 30 Elementalists and we usually get 10 online for WvW action, 10 AoE roots + 10 Meteor Showers = Badgetastic.

If that mechanic is working the same as Grasping Roots I can’t see why that is so effective. No one is standing still in WvW and roots won’t root anyone if they are moving. Are you targeting people on top of a wall or down at the gate from a wall? I have never seen that in WvW. Where have I been lol?

So for the OP – honestly, Glyph of Elementals is pretty much all I ever use. My current Elementalist is Human, and my Beta Elementalists were Asura and Sylvari. The other Elite-tier minion summons (Hounds of Balthasar, Fern Mastif, Golems) may be a little stronger in some ways than the Elementals, but the utility of four different types of Elementals depending on what you need is a strong point in their favor. I use Earth Elementals slightly more often, but regularly cycle in the other three depending on what I’m fighting and what capabilities nearby allies may have. This is mostly for solo PVE though. For WvW, SPvP, Dungeons or whatever, I really have no idea.

everybody should use snow leopard norn elite at least once before commenting on racial elite usefulness

Ele elites aren’t weak. Greatsword for instance, can crit up to 10000, ice elemental heals and has wonderfully low cd(other attunement elementals have their uses too, fire helps in tagging and aoe, earth works like pocket tank, air looks cool and give swiftness!), tornado is relatively weak in pve, but rocks in pvp\www. And whirlpool is just nice to have, good damage.