Guild Wars 2

Can the Frost Bow’s Ice Storm be semi-decent in PvP again? :0

Nope, but you can still roll a warrior with LB and pwn everything with 2 buttons.

We need more vulnerability stacks on our shatterstone to be viable again.

Fashion Mage.3712:

Can the Frost Bow’s Ice Storm be semi-decent in PvP again? :0

It’s easier just to apply the balance changes using random algorithms and have the pvp team remove amulets.

Fashion Mage.3712:

Can the Frost Bow’s Ice Storm be semi-decent in PvP again? :0

Don’t ask for it. Knowing ANet, they will make the skill (and other Elements skills) 100% half decent, and balance other classes to be 100% decent.

Sunshine.5014:

Fashion Mage.3712:

Can the Frost Bow’s Ice Storm be semi-decent in PvP again? :0

Don’t ask for it. Knowing ANet, they will make the skill (and other Elements skills) 100% half decent, and balance other classes to be 100% decent.

…or ignore us and give 1% buff to scepter…I bet Karl never ever read any post in ele subforum.

Mr Godlike.6098:

…or ignore us and give 1% buff to scepter…I bet Karl never ever read any post in ele subforum.

He never did listen to the tempest feedback. He was like “ya ya ya, it’s complicated”, I think all his time was spent redesigning the first elite skill he made that didn’t work, to end up with a second version just as useless and with the same visual effect.

Nothing too serious, just playing other games until they fix the elementalist.

It will be just the same old excuse “Ele has double the amount of weapon skills, so we need to make all the skill half as good as other classes’ skills”

And they will conveniently forget that it’s not about how many skills you have. It’s about how many things you can do within a time frame. Within 10s, there’s just enough time for you to cast n number of skills. It doesn’t matter whether you have 100 skills or 5 skills. It’s better to have 5 good skills to use in that 10s than 100 bad skills. 10s is more than enough for any competent player to down an Ele anyway.

P.S: link to this post if you guys see anyway spewing that excuse around for keeping Ele trash tier.

Exactly. I am a bit overboard ele player and don´t use water much. I usualy use it about this: 50% earth, 30% fire/15% air and 5% water. And i don´t need water to win fights. But now with the CD nerf and healign nerf to bastion my survivability took such a large hit i have troubles to stay alive. My playstyle treis to do sustained damage while kiting and was a more agressive non meta style which is now seriously weakened …

With the new PVE content out, you can clearly see how much trouble ele is having. Sure the damage is ok, but the surviveability is just downright bad. Jade bow construct completely decimates ele, and the heals doesn’t measure up to heal any of the damage being done to it. I was completely forced to rely on rebound at times (the heals from that is crap) to using water, my heals still were being out damaged.

steve.2945:

With the new PVE content out, you can clearly see how much trouble ele is having. Sure the damage is ok, but the surviveability is just downright bad. Jade bow construct completely decimates ele, and the heals doesn’t measure up to heal any of the damage being done to it. I was completely forced to rely on rebound at times (the heals from that is crap) to using water, my heals still were being out damaged.

Damage ele won’t get better defenses until there is a damage-focused elite spec. Tempest was support, and the devs did everything they could in order to make you have to trait and get different stats for support. This was justified of course, because having a damage build with so much support is not balanced. However, the defenses of the ele come packaged with its support, which means that if you nerf the support capability of damage ele, you also inevitably nerf its defenses.

There is no way that Anet will drastically increase the damage mitigation of base ele traits and skills. If they did that, you would be able to stack the new additions with what tempest has to offer in the form of a bunker build that is more broken than anything that we have ever seen. They can only add new major defenses in new elite specs, just like they did with Daredevil and dodges.

Just accept that you are meant to be a support bot until the next expansion comes. Players in this subforum predicted this outcome from the moment that Tempest was revealed as the ele elite spec.

Ganathar.4956:

Just accept that you are meant to be a support bot until the next expansion comes. Players in this subforum predicted this outcome from the moment that Tempest was revealed as the ele elite spec.

That hit me in the ele feels, I just hope the next Xpac they will atleast let us playtest to have feedback from dedicated ele players.

steve.2945:

Ganathar.4956:

Just accept that you are meant to be a support bot until the next expansion comes. Players in this subforum predicted this outcome from the moment that Tempest was revealed as the ele elite spec.

That hit me in the ele feels, I just hope the next Xpac they will atleast let us playtest to have feedback from dedicated ele players.

They did with HoT they just didn’t act on the feedback. Let’s be honest here: Tempest was a cheap offering. The initial HoT elite skill didn’t even work and they just stacked some auras on a new one that also didn’t work without even tweaking the visual effect. It was just a place holder effect for a skill they didn’t have time to design.

It feels unfinished all the way through.