Guild Wars 2

Dear Arenanet, as a elementalist player I really have to know, from you, the reason for buy your expansion.
Because you know, some of us are really really tired to play the same spec since i can’t remeber how much time.
Tempest ins’t going to change nothing because the metà builds will still be fire staff camp in pve and ddkitteningcele in pve.
I don’t know about wvw since I don’t play a lot of it, but the lowest armor and HP going in a front line support spec, lol doesn’t seems that smart.
And yes we can still reroll, but this mean pay for playing something that we like less since the our main class is ele.

So, honestly, why should I buy an expansion pack for not play nothing new? Because now seems like I have to pay for not use the contents I am paying.

I am not so generous to give money for free to those who do not need it, or better who don’t deserve it.

Answer:

Buy it if you want it, you know what is in it.

If not then don’t, but don’t expect ANET to come in here and beg for your money.

Ezekel.6394:

Answer:

Buy it if you want it, you know what is in it.

If not then don’t, but don’t expect ANET to come in here and beg for your money.

Funny, they basically begged for our money with the preorder with the promise of new gameplay for each class. How about expecting ANET to come in here and apologize and/or offer refunds on HOT?

Taldren.7523:

Ezekel.6394:

Answer:

Buy it if you want it, you know what is in it.

If not then don’t, but don’t expect ANET to come in here and beg for your money.

Funny, they basically begged for our money with the preorder with the promise of new gameplay for each class. How about expecting ANET to come in here and apologize and/or offer refunds on HOT?

Tempest is new gameplay, just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I for one actually like it and am looking forward to running an shared Auras build in raids or in stronghold. Also HOT is more than just the elite spec for Elementalists, or even just Elite specs in general.

If you want a refund then ask support.

Ezekel.6394:

Taldren.7523:

Ezekel.6394:

Answer:

Buy it if you want it, you know what is in it.

If not then don’t, but don’t expect ANET to come in here and beg for your money.

Funny, they basically begged for our money with the preorder with the promise of new gameplay for each class. How about expecting ANET to come in here and apologize and/or offer refunds on HOT?

Tempest is new gameplay, just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I for one actually like it and am looking forward to running an shared Auras build in raids or in stronghold. Also HOT is more than just the elite spec for Elementalists, or even just Elite specs in general.

If you want a refund then ask support.

No, its a different flavor of a gameplay we already had. You do know what “gameplay” means, right?

Auramancer bunker was already a thing before HOT.

Not sure what tempest hate is, haven’t seen it. Also, why is this Aura Bunker? Hasn’t anyone seen the sheer damage of overload air? I get a buddy of mine to quickness me and I pop it on point, anyone who comes onto it literally vaporizes. 2.1-3.4k damage (roughly) and if I drop that on top of meteor shower I tend to make it impossible for melee to get in range, along with Magnetic Aura means I’m invulnerable through sheer damage >.>

Granted, I play kinda crazy and I know how to play a pvp point to get what I need….

Serious Thought.5394:

Not sure what tempest hate is, haven’t seen it. Also, why is this Aura Bunker? Hasn’t anyone seen the sheer damage of overload air? I get a buddy of mine to quickness me and I pop it on point, anyone who comes onto it literally vaporizes. 2.1-3.4k damage (roughly) and if I drop that on top of meteor shower I tend to make it impossible for melee to get in range, along with Magnetic Aura means I’m invulnerable through sheer damage >.>

Granted, I play kinda crazy and I know how to play a pvp point to get what I need….

With Marauder and Ferocity runes (So no defense) , AIR overload crits for a whopping 1.7k per pulse and the other attunements do even less damage. You are susceptible to CC (you have 1 stack of stability during overload) and are hardly invulnerable. Rev sword 3 would pretty much eat you with that tactic and staff 5 would make that 1 stack of stability not worth much.

If you go damage, go all the way. Zerker+scholar. I’m crazy. I took all damage modifiers. Also, you missed the part where I said I have a playstyle. I wait for a fight to get underway, precharge air- run to the middle of where everyone is fighting right before it procs and then its done. Fire tornado or God chair on any downed players so we can continue fighting the upped players.

Serious Thought.5394:

I wait for a fight to get underway, precharge air- run to the middle of where everyone is fighting right before it procs and then its done. Fire tornado or God chair on any downed players so we can continue fighting the upped players.

This is what I learned from your post:

• you wait for the fight to get underway, with your team 4v5
• you use overload on downed players

Conclusion:

• you basically wait to be carried by your team. They need to win a 4v5 to produce a downed player so you can overload on.

I’m not sure how that’s a good playstyle for Tempest? Isn’t that just mean dps Tempest is bad?

You sound like you don’t want to think that Tempest is strong. In a nutshell, this is how I teamfight (and remember, I said I 1v1 with fairly strong success):
Team begins fighting
First person takes damage on my team
I overload air
I walk to teamfight
Overload completes when I enter
I have a zone to free-cast my staff skills
We win

Oh and if they do not bring cc anywhere I just cast in middle of teamfight to get the few extra procs.

Serious Thought.5394:

You sound like you don’t want to think that Tempest is strong. In a nutshell, this is how I teamfight (and remember, I said I 1v1 with fairly strong success):
Team begins fighting
First person takes damage on my team
I overload air
I walk to teamfight
Overload completes when I enter
I have a zone to free-cast my staff skills
We win

Oh and if they do not bring cc anywhere I just cast in middle of teamfight to get the few extra procs.

It’s not a matter of thinking it’s weak or strong. Fact is that in any gamemode the tempest offers no competition to existing builds. Won’t say it’s interesting to play, but it doesn’t add anything better somewhere or at least equally as good anywhere.

You can tell awesome stories about your tempest, but fact is also that nobody is going to just sit there and take your damage. Most people with some skill can find their dodge button, know how to kite, or are range class and can easily handle with tempests trying to do oh so “amazing” damage :P I can make a tempest “work” as well in fights where I have someone with me, no achievement there.

I think there is other stuff in the expansion besides Tempest.

0.o

Serious Thought.5394:

If you go damage, go all the way. Zerker+scholar. I’m crazy. I took all damage modifiers. Also, you missed the part where I said I have a playstyle. I wait for a fight to get underway, precharge air- run to the middle of where everyone is fighting right before it procs and then its done. Fire tornado or God chair on any downed players so we can continue fighting the upped players.

Thieves and mesmers (on the other team) must LOVE you! I know I would love someone with a big arrow pointing on their head that says “please kill me”

Ele already had a suicidal dps spec that doesn’t work b/c it lacks survival mechanisms other than healing a lot. Tempest doesn’t change that.

BlackBeard.2873:

Serious Thought.5394:

If you go damage, go all the way. Zerker+scholar. I’m crazy. I took all damage modifiers. Also, you missed the part where I said I have a playstyle. I wait for a fight to get underway, precharge air- run to the middle of where everyone is fighting right before it procs and then its done. Fire tornado or God chair on any downed players so we can continue fighting the upped players.

Thieves and mesmers (on the other team) must LOVE you! I know I would love someone with a big arrow pointing on their head that says “please kill me”

Ele already had a suicidal dps spec that doesn’t work b/c it lacks survival mechanisms other than healing a lot. Tempest doesn’t change that.

+1, if I want to play full DPS from range, a staff Ele is just much better than a Tempest since I don’t have to jump into melee range just to deal the Overload damage. A Meteors Shower pumps out greater pressure, and doesn’t lock me out of the attunement. On top of that, I can also provide the team with more CC.

Tempest damage must be increased a bit more, or the devs should tweak the following:

1. Harmonious Conduit: After Overload, damage increased by 10% for 20s
2. Unstable Conduit: Grant an Aura at the start of casting Overload
3. Shock and After Shock: also break stun