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Posted by: Supreme.3164

Supreme.3164

I can see how this elite may become finally useful with the upcoming stability change, use it on a point as a stability removal, point clearer etc etc.
Or am I seeng this wrong? Really hope not

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Posted by: Loboling.5293

Loboling.5293

Good thinking. I think you are very likely right. Looking forward to going back to my old s/d nado bunker/decaper.

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Posted by: Zention.1849

Zention.1849

It greatly depends on if it will finally become a ground targeted skill.

Cause if not. How long will Tornado grant stability to yourself? How many stacks will you get out if it?
I see some problems with this skill.
Also it will – if no changes occur to it – still be a ‘focus all damage on my, big hitbox, suicide-button skill’

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Posted by: Jski.6180

Jski.6180

There some talk that transformation ability are going to get the new deficient bar system where you cant remove the stab effect but you can brake the transformation by spamming cc on them. But ya Tornado going to be very nice as striping stab stacks to the point where i see d/d or d/f tankly build becoming a thing for ele. Ele has 2 main stabs and they are self stabs so odds are they are going to be on the lines of 10 stacks each on-top of LF and other high mobility attks to get into a group you will see ele bonce ppl arone when they do not see it coming.

I like to see how “Rock Solid” will be effect too is it only going to be a 3 stack stab with a super low duration or will it get a higher duration but still be a lower end stack stab.

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Posted by: Mem no Fushia.7604

Mem no Fushia.7604

There some talk that transformation ability are going to get the new deficient bar system where you cant remove the stab effect but you can brake the transformation by spamming cc on them. But ya Tornado going to be very nice as striping stab stacks to the point where i see d/d or d/f tankly build becoming a thing for ele. Ele has 2 main stabs and they are self stabs so odds are they are going to be on the lines of 10 stacks each on-top of LF and other high mobility attks to get into a group you will see ele bonce ppl arone when they do not see it coming.

I like to see how “Rock Solid” will be effect too is it only going to be a 3 stack stab with a super low duration or will it get a higher duration but still be a lower end stack stab.

Losing transformation cuz of tons of cc it makes me a little scared, but probably it is balance. Missed info about that, thank you.

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Posted by: Jski.6180

Jski.6180

There some talk that transformation ability are going to get the new deficient bar system where you cant remove the stab effect but you can brake the transformation by spamming cc on them. But ya Tornado going to be very nice as striping stab stacks to the point where i see d/d or d/f tankly build becoming a thing for ele. Ele has 2 main stabs and they are self stabs so odds are they are going to be on the lines of 10 stacks each on-top of LF and other high mobility attks to get into a group you will see ele bonce ppl arone when they do not see it coming.

I like to see how “Rock Solid” will be effect too is it only going to be a 3 stack stab with a super low duration or will it get a higher duration but still be a lower end stack stab.

Losing transformation cuz of tons of cc it makes me a little scared, but probably it is balance. Missed info about that, thank you.

That what WP was talking about i am not sure if he knows for sure though. Once you lose stab when your transformed most ppl tend to drop the transformation.

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

Nobody will use tornado anymore if the new elite does something.

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Posted by: iKeostuKen.2738

iKeostuKen.2738

Lers hope we cant get cced while in tornado. Seriously, if me can then our cd for the skill should just be reduced greatly as well as giving us 5 stacks of stability or something to start off with.

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Posted by: Jski.6180

Jski.6180

Nobody will use tornado anymore if the new elite does something.

There a lot of truth in what your saying the thing that may prevent this is by making some weapons ele only use when the new super class for ele can use a new one. If the new new super class for ele cant use a staff but can use a sword then you will not see the new elite used as much. Though i would not mind seeing the new super ele class keep staff and get a well like skill set from there elite hehe though that would effectively end stander ele use in wvw and spvp well for staff build.

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Posted by: witcher.3197

witcher.3197

It’s slow. By the time you tear through 8 stacks of stability your elite runs out or you get focused down and die. This alone will not be good enough to interrupt stability resses/stomps. Can also be blinded.

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Posted by: MyPuppy.8970

MyPuppy.8970

Yeah i wish the tornado werent so slow to move/hit. The only thing that runs fast is condition stacking and hp decreasing.

I hope the new elite isn’t a transform or conjure wich locks you from your core mechanics, or a clumsy pet.

I wonder if we can get a new worse elite.

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Posted by: Wise One.9321

Wise One.9321

If it is the same as defiance bar for champ mobs blind is considered a cc. I don’t know if the player version will count blind the same way.

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Posted by: witcher.3197

witcher.3197

If it is the same as defiance bar for champ mobs blind is considered a cc. I don’t know if the player version will count blind the same way.

Stability and defiance are 2 different things.

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Posted by: Wise One.9321

Wise One.9321

I should of been more clear, I meant the new break bar. The break bar will replace defiance and I beleive I read that this would be used for players in some form. Transforms are prime for this. So Nado will no longer have stability but this new bar instead. I don’t have clue if blind will be treated different between mobs and players.

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Posted by: witcher.3197

witcher.3197

I should of been more clear, I meant the new break bar. The break bar will replace defiance and I beleive I read that this would be used for players in some form. Transforms are prime for this. So Nado will no longer have stability but this new bar instead. I don’t have clue if blind will be treated different between mobs and players.

I know what you mean but you’re still wrong. They said they will spread defiance to players somehow, we don’t know how. Defiance is a bar that regenerates and if you send it to 0 (“break the bar”)something happens, like the boss gets stunned for 5 seconds or enters another phase. Stability is a boon with predetermined stacks, blinds and such things won’t remove stacks of it and boon removal skills can remove stability but have no effect on defiance bars (afaik).

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Posted by: Wise One.9321

Wise One.9321

Hmm we seem to have some sort of disconnect Witcher. All I meant was that if they apply the new defiance to transformations (conjecture) then blinds will drain your defiance bar. This would be quite a buff to Nado.

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