Guild Wars 2

Greetings all,

Unforunately this is a rant due to my absolute frustration in world PvP. I love the Elementalist class in PvE and have had fun doing events etc.. however in world PvP we as a class are totally weakly unbalanced. When classes are about to almost 1 hit u (i.e. Warriors) or what happened to me earlier (straw on the camels back so to speak) took about 10k in total in a matter of 5 seconds from a hip attack (multiple shots of between 1.5k to 1.9k), from what I think was a engineer class.

Where my fireball does 1k dmg and stikes 1 per what his 5? wtf are they thinking.

Sorry to vent, this is my first post and almost ready to pack up, just really frustrated re this matter.

Thanks for reading, sorry I know this has prob been said before.

Arch

Elementalist underpowered in WvW?! Are you kidding?
1) Level up and get good gear (1k hits with staff in glass cannon spec is funny).
2) Engineer can do this damage only at high level, with good gear and in melee distance with high crit chance(if you talk about poison dart volley skill)
3) My fireball crits for ~3k (yes, it’s almost full exotic gear) and I use utility skills to avoid dying in few seconds
4) Elementalist doesn’t have good single target damage skills, like other classes. But he has very good AoE for team fights.
WvW is one of few good elementalist’s aspects. WvW and trolling people in sPvP with healing tank spec =)

Forgot to mention I am full earth / full water and partial arcane with signet specialisation and wearing full Exotics all with toughness / power / healing bonuses and level 80. I too use utility skills to survive and forgot to mention staff spec.

I agree with you re: AoE but 1v1 Elementalist is pretty much screwed.

Thanks Kreit for the reply btw.

I’m ele, I do WvW, but I don’t feel UP at all. I feel UP in 1vs1 with the staff, but that’s not the point of WvW… elementalists really make the difference for their group survivability and pushing against enemies.
Just avoid roaming and looking for 1vs1, that’s not what you are supposed to do, if you want that, S/D or D/D in sPVP.

PS: by group I mean also 2 or 3 persons, not a zerg. Just roam around with your guild mates.

I think tank spec is good for PvE and sPvP, but at WvW it’s almost useless. Because you can’t do good AoE damage (and I like 4k+ crits with meteor shower).
It’s strange, how you can get almost 2k damage each hit by channelled skills using full tank build o_O. I don’t have tank gear for PvE/WvW, but in sPvP enemies need 3+ ppl to kill me. But my damage is rly funny =)

Thanks so much for the constructive replies. To be honest I am impressed with the feedback from you guys. I will explore D/D alternatives for 1v1, however will avoid this like the plague

Thanks again.

Arch

It depends what you mean by tank, using mist form and arcane shield I can survive most situations and revive others in the middle of crossed arrow carts fire
Btw I have a balanced setup, half dps half tank, not even completed the exotic armor, though with well chosen traits, runes and sigils you can easily reach 20 stacks of might and do some interesting damage.

http://i.imgur.com/6GPd9.jpg

Get 80. Get exotic gear. Get crit dmg food. I actually rerolled from mesmer to ele because ele is the best wvw class. The area denial that meteors and lava font brings is kitten

Yes I understand the damage isn’t anything special to the numbers that warriors/thieves can put out, but considering you do this to 5 people from a safe distance, the only time ele has the disadvantage is a ground fight at a supply camp, which doesn’t matter because 9 times out of 10 you will be on a wall or attacking a wall.

^ This person is doing it right. All out glass cannon build, melt face.

Anything else is bad for wvw, since no matter what, if you get focused you die. 10k or 100k hp doesn’t matter, when 30 people focus someone (and they will if they’re good), they’ll take them down with their autoattacks, before the dude can even react.

Going pure AoE damage like that is great, if all you do is move with the zerg.

I prefer my build with D/D spec and Cantrips. Use the Fiery Greatsword elite for most of your AoE damage when you are with the Zerg. 4 to jump in, 5 on them, 2 on a target in the middle, then 3 to spin back out. If things go bad, hit your Ether renewal and mist, followed by RTL.

Something else I don’t see mentioned here; switch gear depending on the situation. You can roam with D/D and power/survival gear and then switch to Glass Cannon/ Staff when you are with the Zerg attacking or defending a point.

Staff fire combo, followed by Fiery Greatsword AoE combo. Good times to have 2 meteor showers going.

To all, thanks so much for the constructive replies. To be honest after my first little rant, I was thinking to myself I wonder how many replies will not be so constructive.

Truely shows the maturity levels of members in the forums, and to all you guys that replied I truely thank you.

Also has made me think of getting two sets of gear now, one specific with power/tough/heal for PvE and one set with power/crit/condition for world PvP. Only tricky (and expensive bit) will be to juggle the traits / skills between the two

Thanks again all for the replies.

Arch

Elementalist is best in WvW of all the different things there is to do in GW2. Mostly because of meteor shower, 20 arcane and a significant amount of DPS gear.

There’s also a place for S/D in open field, but you will need more group support. Although our guild’s primary S/D bomber switched over to warrior because that class does it better.

Just my personal opinion, but I wouldn’t play an elementalist without toughness. Since I’ve switched to having toughness on both my D/D and Staff build, I doubt I’d ever go back.

For D/D I am Power/Toughness/Healing and it works well.

For Staff I am going to be using Knight’s gear and going Power/Precision/Toughness.

Kreit.4709

I also crit for 3k+ with my fireball. Problem is it never lands. If an enemy moves 1inch to the side, your fireball will miss the target.
Or if players are stupid enough to stand still in your lava font.
Meteor shower it not an AoE pulse, it only hits where the meteor is landing so many times you hit nothing.

Staff might have alot of AoE, but much of it are easily avoided compared to other classes AoE. Most of it also takes alot of time to show its effects > do damage, like E2,W2

@Selo
I know our auto-attack is terrible. But I get kills even with this terrible AA and lava font in team fights, at least AA has splash damage. Don’t forget, WvW is team based, so your team mate can CC enemy and you will do good damage. Other classes AoE can be avoided easily too btw (but yes, they have more direct target skills). And meteor shower is last skill to complain about. It’s one of the best skills at WvW. Meteor shower + lava font and you get some kills in point defence even if you defend alone.