Guild Wars 2

Thief was able to use steal on me during evade with burning speed. Get that fixed.

Depending on when they did it (could have used “Steal” as the evade was being activated (during the evade warm-up), or near the end of the 1s evade) it is possible.

Without some video documentation however we dont know the set up of that fight/retreating to be able to confirm that its something that needs fixing or not. As far as we know, it was a legit steal and you are a bit upset/salty at the situation.

It just happens, I’ve gotten stunned lots of times while evading on multiple characters too. Sometimes it’s just cuz the evade frames are hard to tell, others just latency.

Bigpapasmurf.5623:

Depending on when they did it (could have used “Steal” as the evade was being activated (during the evade warm-up), or near the end of the 1s evade) it is possible.

Without some video documentation however we dont know the set up of that fight/retreating to be able to confirm that its something that needs fixing or not. As far as we know, it was a legit steal and you are a bit upset/salty at the situation.

Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E42RwzjRswU

The evade duration is just as long as the skill duration.

Although props for playing d/d ele it looks like the thief interrupted with steal during the 3/4 second cast time of burning speed

heres the skill…https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Burning_Speed
it has a 3/4 cast time with 3/4 of evade. so wheres the opening for the thf to make a successful attack when using burn speed? to me it seems burning speed is glitched out and doesnt apply the evade correctly with the animation messing it all up. but i dont really know.

Nothing bugged there; he just got you during the skill’s windup since Burning Speed isn’t insta-cast.

Ofc it’s bugged.
It’s not an insta cast skill, that’s tue. If it was it wouldn’t have been an evade skill lol. The duration is 3/4 sec, and the evasion duration is the same.

Timelord.8190:

Ofc it’s bugged.
It’s not an insta cast skill, that’s tue. If it was it wouldn’t have been an evade skill lol. The duration is 3/4 sec, and the evasion duration is the same.

I see where you’re getting at but after a few tests, it seems that there’s a 1/4 second windup time to the burning speed with a 1/2 second evade frame.

A lot of skills with an evade frame in them have a cast time but it’s usually not shown because they can’t reliably show it. Like the cast time of the entire ability with cast and evade frame is more like 1s but how do you show that when all you have is cast and cool down? Show it as 1s cast with ¾s evade might help but is the evade at the beginning or end?

Regardless OP you were hit during the cast, it is not bugged as you weren’t evading at the time, same thing happens with warriors and whirlwind, many complain they get hit at the start but it’s also got a ¼s cast. I doubt the thief intelligently tried to interrupt, just bad luck/good luck.

K THEN.5162:

I see where you’re getting at but after a few tests, it seems that there’s a 1/4 second windup time to the burning speed with a 1/2 second evade frame.

well in the tooltip it says 3/4 evade and your saying you only actually get 1/2 evade….so to me it isnt applying the evade properly therefor its glitched out/ broken.

The cast time is 3/4s and the skill duration is an additional 3/4s. So all-in-all the skill takes 1.5s to fully cast and animate (plus whatever trailing aftercast animation it has). In the video OP was cut off during the cast time. Seeing how the skill when on a 10s cooldown (rather than a 3s interrupt cooldown) leads me to believe that OP also got poked by a Distracting Dagger vs any other interrupt.

Working as intended.

As mentioned by several, it was exactly what I thought. The thief got you right before the actual evade. I can see how you were mistaken, however to make things easier and quicker for next time, instead of calling it a bug or calling for a fix from the start, post the vid and ask people what happened and let the awesome community let you know what they saw

ps. gj on playing D/D

there is an activation time, you can notice it lot more on asuras as they jump in the air first then dart forwords. how ever the toolip dosnt show an activation time, flanking strike on thief has been head shotted/stealed to a few times in the past as soon as i use the skill.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Flanking_Strike_

Fat Disgrace.4275:

there is an activation time, you can notice it lot more on asuras as they jump in the air first then dart forwords. how ever the toolip dosnt show an activation time, flanking strike on thief has been head shotted/stealed to a few times in the past as soon as i use the skill.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Flanking_Strike_

Pulminary Impact tho can realllly hurt when they interrupt. Damage doesnt happen right away but after about 2-3s.

savacli.8172:

The cast time is 3/4s and the skill duration is an additional 3/4s. So all-in-all the skill takes 1.5s to fully cast and animate (plus whatever trailing aftercast animation it has). In the video OP was cut off during the cast time. Seeing how the skill when on a 10s cooldown (rather than a 3s interrupt cooldown) leads me to believe that OP also got poked by a Distracting Dagger vs any other interrupt.

It doesen’t take 1,5 sec to fully cast. I have timed it with use of recording software. No way that skill takes 5 sec to cast. You misunderstand what the tooltip says. The evande time isn’t additional time to the skill duration. That wouldn’t make any sense. The evade time is based on the skill itself.

Bigpapasmurf.5623:

As mentioned by several, it was exactly what I thought. The thief got you right before the actual evade. I can see how you were mistaken, however to make things easier and quicker for next time, instead of calling it a bug or calling for a fix from the start, post the vid and ask people what happened and let the awesome community let you know what they saw

ps. gj on playing D/D

The actual evade should start right away according to the tooltip. Activation time doesen’t make any sense. What good is an evade skills which you cannot time properly? As i see it the skill is bugged when it doesen’t do what the tooltip says. So i will call it a bug.

Timelord.8190:

savacli.8172:

The cast time is 3/4s and the skill duration is an additional 3/4s. So all-in-all the skill takes 1.5s to fully cast and animate (plus whatever trailing aftercast animation it has). In the video OP was cut off during the cast time. Seeing how the skill when on a 10s cooldown (rather than a 3s interrupt cooldown) leads me to believe that OP also got poked by a Distracting Dagger vs any other interrupt.

It doesen’t take 1,5 sec to fully cast. I have timed it with use of recording software. No way that skill takes 5 sec to cast. You misunderstand what the tooltip says. The evande time isn’t additional time to the skill duration. That wouldn’t make any sense. The evade time is based on the skill itself.

You’re right, the skill doesn’t take 5 seconds to cast; like I said earlier the skill takes 3/4 of a second to cast and that’s where you got interrupted.

What I was getting at is the time it takes start to finish for that skill to complete. That’s from the moment you toggle the skill, the cast time unravels (you’re susecptible to interrupts here), the skill animates (evade frames occur here), and your character model resets back to its neutral state (what is called after-cast animation). That whole process takes about 1.5 seconds.

Burning Speed isn’t an insta-cast like Signet of Air or Arcane Shield are which means you’re not guaranteed to be able to pull it off each time you cast it. Simply put you got outmatched by a thief who landed his interrupt on you during your cast time (again, you got sniped by a Distracting Dagger since your skill went on a 10s interrupted cooldown). Feel free to report it as a bug, but even your own video points to everything working as listed.

There is no 1,5 sec process. The entire skill/animation duration is 3/4 sec. Stop thinking it’s double of what the tooltip says. The skill had already started casting. You can see the line of fire. So what if it isn’t insta cast? None insta cast skills are evade skills, an evade skill requires a skill time duration where you evade during the casting time.

I don’t think you should take the tooltip as gospel, especially in this game.
You can still get hit during the skills wind up, the part of the animation when your character begins to do the short half turn before moving forward.

Timelord.8190:

So what if it isn’t insta cast? None insta cast skills are evade skills, an evade skill requires a skill time duration where you evade during the casting time.

This is not true at all. There are many instant cast skills with evade frames. Eles have a couple. And not all skills that are evades have the same cast time as they do evade duration. For example:

Burning retreat = 0s cast, 1s evade
Burning speed = 3/4s cast, 3/4s evade
Updraft = 0s cast, 1s evade
Hidden pistol = 1/2s cast, 3/4s evade (Charr)

If you use burning speed to evade vs Burning retreat you can really feel the difference in the time it takes for the evade portion to activate. I know when I became too used to burning retreat I found myself getting hit during the cast time of burning speed before I adjusted to it again.

Ok, i was wrong.
Some of these skills being insta cast doesen’t work as insta cast skills should thoug. You cannot channel churning earth while casting updraft for example.