@Teabaker: Isn’t that the old EA bunker build minus Zephyr’s Boon from the newer Auramentalist build post EA nerf? Regen must be insane with that much healing power though.
Doing the Math, its 230 every second with 800 healing power. (about the same regen as the warriors F6 Heal w/o healing power.)
Normally its 130 HPS, but that almost doubles it.
Thanks for the maths, but I’m a little confused now, are you doing it to say it’s fairly weak or pretty good because you generally seem to hate us and I was in the process of writing a kitteny remark back…
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It’s 289 HPS (regenration) for my elementalist, together with Soothing Mist (144) it’s 423 HPS, which is completely broken. Soothing Mist also has 100% uptime if you use your elementalist well.
@Teabaker: Isn’t that the old EA bunker build minus Zephyr’s Boon from the newer Auramentalist build post EA nerf? Regen must be insane with that much healing power though.
Doing the Math, its 230 every second with 800 healing power. (about the same regen as the warriors F6 Heal w/o healing power.)
Normally its 130 HPS, but that almost doubles it.
Thanks for the maths, but I’m a little confused now, are you doing it to say it’s fairly weak or pretty good because you generally seem to hate us and I was in the process of writing a kitteny remark back…
Seen as no suggestions have been given to increase ele survivability without relying on full healing specc with amulet and runes, it can be concluded that any message revolving around “necessary nerfs” should not be considered, they are just fabrication of few disgruntled players who got killed repeatedly by a d/d ele.
Just check for yourself, for the last couple of pages we’ve been discussing against a pair of thief players who run gimmick builds and demands to be on top during every encounter, you haven’t see representatives of any other profession here, likewise only in the thief sub-forum you’ll find whine threads regarding eles ( 2-3 of them). let’s end it here otherwise we’ll fill another page with useless numbers crunching
Yeah I agree Arheundel, it’s why I was confused by his statement, I guess he does the maths to try and find justifications for his hatred of the class (based on reading his posts in other forums).
And when I thought things were looking better the shocking discovery of the serious transformation bug in the “shocking aura nerfed” thread sets us back two steps.
EDIT: I get it, Daecolo and Teabaker are both thief Ele haters, my bad too much time spent WvW’ing till 5am the last two weeks.
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Also has anyone ever tried the trait arcane resurrection. The auras it gives are 10 seconds, but the shocking aura it gives currently scales with + boon. So if you have +50 boon duration you and the person you rez will get 15 seconds of shocking aura. This could be pretty useful if you rez a lot.
4 days later …
Arcane Resurrection: This trait now applies five seconds of aura to allies affected by it.
Stealth fix: shocking aura no longer scales with boon duration
This may be a coincidence, but if it isn’t I am genuinely impressed by the 4 day turnaround time.
I think the Ele was nerfed pre-release heavily. I played the ele only in the last beta, before release. For some reason I was doing some decent damage on the staff at start, I only made it to level 10 but never had trouble. I died constantly at the release of the game. A lot of our problems happened inside of the beta where Anet got overzealous and nerfed the ele to the ground, and then never actually put the effort to rebuild the class.
I say the ele is not perfect. THe d/d build is a build I hate playing, but as it is, as of this moment it is one of the most viable ele builds. It’s one of the only builds our class has to stand up to some of the other really ganky cheap builds. Such as the perma-gank stealth theif.
As a staff ele I can not beat the heartseeker perma theif. Ive tried keeping range, I’ve tried a lot of diffrent tactics. I’ve only held out against said theif on rare-occasiosn and I never “defeat them”. I know I am not the best ele by anymeans( I won’t pretend I am like some believes. I don’t suffer that ego problem). In our current meta there are builds that simply are so strong they only have a few counters. As an ele, our only real counter to some of these builds is the d/d. So I have no idea why anet would nerf this…Without nerfing other said “cheap” builds.
CC on staff needs to be increased in duration and improved so people can’t simply dodge roll through most of it or laugh when it wears off after one second. The “aimed” ones also need some form of tracking or a faster projectile. 99% of staff projectiles need a velocity increase and an after cast reduction as well as some drastic reduction of cooldown lengths if the base damage isn’t increased. I won’t even start on 5 aoe limit.
With the moaning aside I stick to D/D Aura 90% of the time and absolutely love my class. Let’s hope what the dev’s are serious about what they’ve said in our forum recently and our class will giving some much needed attention over the next few months.
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I think the Ele was nerfed pre-release heavily. I played the ele only in the last beta, before release. For some reason I was doing some decent damage on the staff at start, I only made it to level 10 but never had trouble. I died constantly at the release of the game. A lot of our problems happened inside of the beta where Anet got overzealous and nerfed the ele to the ground, and then never actually put the effort to rebuild the class.
I say the ele is not perfect. THe d/d build is a build I hate playing, but as it is, as of this moment it is one of the most viable ele builds. It’s one of the only builds our class has to stand up to some of the other really ganky cheap builds. Such as the perma-gank stealth theif.
As a staff ele I can not beat the heartseeker perma theif. Ive tried keeping range, I’ve tried a lot of diffrent tactics. I’ve only held out against said theif on rare-occasiosn and I never “defeat them”. I know I am not the best ele by anymeans( I won’t pretend I am like some believes. I don’t suffer that ego problem). In our current meta there are builds that simply are so strong they only have a few counters. As an ele, our only real counter to some of these builds is the d/d. So I have no idea why anet would nerf this…Without nerfing other said “cheap” builds.
i love the heartseeking theif, easy kill, because he’s as weak as a kitten(not a swear there, just a literal kitten) when he stealths use AoE on yourself hit him with conditions they have little to no conditoin removers, which is good since if i hit him with my eruption he loses 10k health which means they’re usually dead
Pointless thread. I am active in mesmer/thief/warrior/elementalist and i do not see any whining or QQing about d/d elementalist. It is incredible hard to play correctly compared to 3 button warrior/thief. on the opposite hand thieves… should be scared
I think the Ele was nerfed pre-release heavily. I played the ele only in the last beta, before release. For some reason I was doing some decent damage on the staff at start, I only made it to level 10 but never had trouble. I died constantly at the release of the game. A lot of our problems happened inside of the beta where Anet got overzealous and nerfed the ele to the ground, and then never actually put the effort to rebuild the class.
I say the ele is not perfect. THe d/d build is a build I hate playing, but as it is, as of this moment it is one of the most viable ele builds. It’s one of the only builds our class has to stand up to some of the other really ganky cheap builds. Such as the perma-gank stealth theif.
As a staff ele I can not beat the heartseeker perma theif. Ive tried keeping range, I’ve tried a lot of diffrent tactics. I’ve only held out against said theif on rare-occasiosn and I never “defeat them”. I know I am not the best ele by anymeans( I won’t pretend I am like some believes. I don’t suffer that ego problem). In our current meta there are builds that simply are so strong they only have a few counters. As an ele, our only real counter to some of these builds is the d/d. So I have no idea why anet would nerf this…Without nerfing other said “cheap” builds.
i love the heartseeking theif, easy kill, because he’s as weak as a kitten(not a swear there, just a literal kitten) when he stealths use AoE on yourself hit him with conditions they have little to no conditoin removers, which is good since if i hit him with my eruption he loses 10k health which means they’re usually dead
Actually, Thanks for the Tip! I’m gonna try it the next time in wvw. Not sure if Ill have enough condition damage to tear him a new one(I am a Fire/Water/Arcane staff ele). I think droping a laval font around me could do wonders. Thanks.
. on the opposite hand thieves… should be scared