Guild Wars 2

Just give it time. Eles may seem like the worst class to you at the moment but if you make the class your own and find ways around certain situations you will notice Eles arent as bad as you may think.

I agree that there could be a few tweaks here and there (cough weapon swap in pve cough) but overall Eles are a decent class.

I’ll post vids later showing how I play my Ele. I think I mastered my class, so you should try to do the same.

I decided to make my Elemtalist my main after trying both Mesmer and Warrior..

NO WEAPON SWAP! WTF!

Actually, i really enjoy the elementalist. It’s one of the professions where you need to take abit more time to study. Im rolling a level 32 elementalist and im really satisfied. Its for some and not for others. Another thing… people need stop exaggerating this whole weapon swapping thing. Yes it would be nice but we get enough power and abilities with just a simple staff.

I didn’t know that other classes had weapon swap. I’m always cursing that I’ve got to manually switch between staff and scepter and dagger.

Just more of a reason why I’m considering leaving the game. All the mages are screwed up from what I’ve read on the forums and I only play mages because of how cool …well how cool they are suppose to be.

We need weapon swap amongst many other things for this to be worth my time.

Nah, Lockey, they are not THAT bad.

Necromancer has a lot of bugs. A lot. The class functions perfectly fine at the moment, outside a minion-based build. I do not play it myself, but I know others who do and they are perfectly happy (since they never wanted to run minions in the first place).

Mesmer has a high learning curve and is very weak at low levels. Some of the design is a little confused and many aspects are clearly unfinished. Despite that, the class is quite functional. Jump into sPvP and a good Mesmer is highly effective. In PvE, once you get to lvl20-30, the class really comes into its own and is excellent.

Elementalist… I would prefer to not comment either way. No matter whether I say it is great or awful, half the forum will flame me for it.

Wait…weapon swap?

How can you possible justify this?

With 4 attachments, you have 20 skills available already through a “swap”

Guys, if you are asking for a weapon swap, then you do not understand how the Ele is supposed to work…They are not as bad as people are making them out to be and I hope that Arena Net does not make any wholesale knee-jerk changes to fundamentally change how the profession works.

Ele’s require some thought, you need to think about what weapons / playstyle that you like and build around it, you need to know what all your attunements do, what benefits you get, what combo fields, you have to think about what you are doing. I think a lot of people just don’t get the class and simply want to stand there spamming fireballs at people and expecting everything to die.

The profession certainly needs some tweaks as there are bugs with abilities, some traits don’t work properly etc… once those get ironed out, I actually think ele’s will be in a pretty good place.

I have a level 80 Mesmer, but I have tons of fun on my Ele even though I’m only level 63 on him and I doubt I will be playing my Mesmer any time soon.

Those 20 skills are by and large all the same though. Their focus and usage doesn’t change. Other classes use weapon swap to change the their play style / focus. Ele can’t do that.

As a Warrior you can roll Greatsword for melee and swap to rifle when you need to fight at a range. Changing your play style. With Ele you can roll daggers and….swap to 3 other sets of daggers with a different colour effects. It doesn’t change your play style. You’re still wielding daggers with all of the strengths and weaknesses of daggers.

Ele has enough “lock in” with its traits and builds as is.

Xhaiden.3891:

Those 20 skills are by and large all the same though. Their focus and usage doesn’t change. Other classes use weapon swap to change the their play style / focus. Ele can’t do that.

As a Warrior you can roll Greatsword for melee and swap to rifle when you need to fight at a range. Changing your play style. With Ele you can roll daggers and….swap to 3 other sets of daggers with a different colour effects. It doesn’t change your play style. You’re still wielding daggers with all of the strengths and weaknesses of daggers.

Ele has enough “lock in” with specific builds as is.

You have positives and negatives to attunement swapping. The good? You have 20 abilities. The bad, you are stuck in playstyle.

You gain double the abilities, and lose the versatility.

The tradeoff is clear, you cannot have both.

Weapon swap for elemntalist, what it meant is " OUT OF COMBAT" weapon swap. Do you see Elementalist is limited to ranged attack or melee attack unlike other classes that could swap weapon and go ranged from melee or melee to ranged ? our weapon range never change in combat!(mostly) When we are out of combat most smart elementalist will swap weapon maunally according to the situation, and it is a must in WvW to survive, if we could do it out of comabt now, why not allowing us to put our weapon on werapon swap while out of combat?

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I decided to make my Elemtalist my main after trying both Mesmer and Warrior..

NO WEAPON SWAP! WTF!

Actually, the class has a weapon swap – you just need to sacrifice a utility slot to get one, same as Engineers. Yes, I’m talking about summoned weapons.

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I didn’t know that other classes had weapon swap. I’m always cursing that I’ve got to manually switch between staff and scepter and dagger.

Just more of a reason why I’m considering leaving the game. All the mages are screwed up from what I’ve read on the forums and I only play mages because of how cool …well how cool they are suppose to be.

We need weapon swap amongst many other things for this to be worth my time.

You must be new to the forums. NEVER have what you read on the forums build a opinion of a class you haven’t personally tried yourself. Read every single classes forum on every single MMO and they are ALL negative. Look at thiefs and mesmer’s forum. Both of those classes are borderline OP in my opinion and all they do is complain. I personally took mesmer to a very high level and I thought it was easy mode. Almost too easy. I can solo champions with hardly moving at all. I can pull packs of enemies at a time with no risk of dying. I dominate in pvp. There is NO downside to the class, yet people STILL complain on the forums. The forums are not for building opinions on class, they are for learning additional information about them. For example I didn’t know you could cast lightning flash in the middle of a churning earth without it being interrupted. I never would have tested that or ever bought lightning flash. Now that I know I created my own build and opinion and I find the elementalist to be extremely easy at pve. When it doubt just remember, its not the class, its you.

I’ve been playing Ele for like a week now and sometimes I get really frustrated, tried all different kind of builds yet it seems something is missing. I tried playing Mesmer but it wasnt so fun or hard like Elementalist was. I just feel that compared to other classes, Ele is really underpowered. We got no def, no HP and our attacks arent so fast as other classes are and we don’t have the same amount of damage that other classes do. While we are casting an auto attack, a warrior comes and crushes us just by spamming hundred blades. It’s like a glass cannon but no cannon
It takes a loooot more skills to play Ele decently than any other class, which is really sad cause sometimes you are having a really nice 1v1 then a kitten thief comes, spams heartseeker and get you killed in a few seconds.
I love the class and I dont think I will be switching it any time soon but I’d really like to see it being more effective in game.
Maybe I just suck really bad but it’s really hard for me to win a 1v2, even 1v1 fights :/
I just hope that one day I’ll be able to play the class without raging in like 30min XD

I admire Eles for trying so hard to have some fun <3 lol

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To a lot of people feeling that they die too fast try a focus in your offhand. Even if you get jumped on you should react fast enough to use an active defense. Focuses have a lot of active defenses and it also pretty much stops any ranged user from putting pressure on your for quite a while. If you die to 100b or HS, try to take a defensive utility like mist form or arcane shield. Once you get hit once (or see it coming, which is usually the case honestly), you can react fast enough so your skills eat up the rest of their hits then you can followup.

Taci, I recommend reading my Ele pro-tips forum on the main page. If you feel like a glass cannon then its probably because you are building like a glass cannon. Don’t compare Ele 2.0 to Ele 1.0 in guild wars 1. This is a hybrid class and as a hybrid class it requires hybrid stats. Read that post and create a build from that.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/PvE-Pro-Tips/first#post240845

I love elementalist. When I started with the class, the challenge (PvE) was quite surprising; I tried a bunch of daring things and died quite a few times, but each time the class grew more and more on me. Trying to play a warrior now; have a lot of trouble getting her past the early levels because it feels so much like grinding levels in Lineage 2.

I’m just starting to really learn the class in PvP though. It’s been a difficult road so far, but I would not have it any other way.

About the weapon swap:
Double Daggers for lightning whip
Scepter/Dagger for fire spells
Staff for when I’m broke and need to do events. I use chain lighting, meteor shower, lava font and Glyph of storms to attack a mass amount of monsters then run away until everyone else kills them. Right now I’m down to less then 2 gold at level 63 so need to generate revenue… Think I’m back over 1gold 50silver mark again woot?

The only reason why we are not a glass canon is that you’d have to have high damage output to be a glass canon. Closest I can see is using the Firey Great Sword… but takes too long to recharge. I have been referring to the elementalist as the “Frail-mentalist” the “glass sling-shot”.

This game has a high amount of attention to detail except with the Elementalist. I’ve been thinking heavily on doing a Necro before I just quit Guild Wars over this. I’m right now frustrated and disgusted that the hype lead up to a real bust. I primarily wanted to play the elementalist and 50% of the reason why I chose to play this game. the other 50% is quest/events/map design/story/etc.

Normally in MMOs I do my best not to die, as an Elementalist it is only a matter of minutes or sometimes seconds. Usually I’m dead not even 5 minutes into gameplay if I start in a town. I expect death in this game as much as I’d expect to cast a lightning bolt or fire ball. Swapping attunements does very little when you die so fasr.

Groups are suckey too, they forget how frail elementalist are and if they get too far from me, I’m dead and have to either teleport and run back or wait to be revived.