Underwater - Ele vs Veteran Risen Subjugator

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Posted by: Tachenon.5270

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Last night while playing my NPE ele, I hit a snag in the form of a Veteran Risen Subjugator guarding a skill challenge. I tried 11 times (I think) to clobber this guy but inevitably he’d do something that would prevent dodging/movement and then would begin the unleashing of conditions out the wazoo – clear them and boom, they’d be right back. See also that spinning mesmery attack thingee – that really hurts, when there’s no getting out of it. See also his nearby buddies respawning and/or joining in on the ele-slaughter just for kicks.

I eventually called upon some guildies for assistance (and after they came to help, two or three other players happened by).

Anyway, any recommendations on skills/untilities/gear/traits that would help my ele – while underwater – clobber guys like that solo?

Currently using exotic zerker armor, ascended celestial amulet, exotic celestial backpack, exotic soldier rings, along with a Book of Rabid Deeds and a Magi’s Field Guide.

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Posted by: Ulion.5476

Ulion.5476

Most people do not know how to use their underwater skills, but start at close to max range. You can chain cc enemies with your trident the 4 skill on all attunements is a cc. Use water 3 or earth 5 if he gets into melee range swap use air 3 or water 5 to move away. Get a exotic underwater weapons if you do not have one.

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Posted by: Tachenon.5270

Tachenon.5270

Thanks for the reply!

I went back today and tried taking him out solo again, and was finally able to do it. Part of it was luck, though, as I was able to tackle him before his buddies could respawn (and no adds came wandering by).

I fought another one of these guys in a different spot – he was all by himself and was much easier to defeat.

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Posted by: Kravick.4906

Kravick.4906

Ele underwater skills lack quite a bit of punch. I’m used to playing necromancer under water. Power or condition built, necromancers are absolute juggernauts of destruction when under water and have absolutely no problems soloing entire groups of things. When I did that place for the achievement a few months back, I was able to swim in, tank like 5-6 risen at a time (things aggro through the floors), and blow them all up in a matter of seconds with my necromancer. I swear, I would cut off my left pinky if it would convince the devs to give necros the ability to use their under water skills on dry land.

Took my ele there to unlock the water grandmaster yesterday. Whole different story. My ele barely survived against a single veteran when under water. Yes, I am using proper rotations and not camping a single attunement (I took the time to learn each attunement). I also have an exotic trident, full exotic gear, and full ascended trinkets. The place just wrecked me. If I faced two risen, I was guaranteed to go into downstate at least once. Any more than that and I’d just die. Veterans were like mini bosses, and if anything aggroed during a fight with a veteran, it was over. This is contrary to how my necro was just making everything down there her kitten, and quite literally curbstomped the entire ship like it was nothing.

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Posted by: oxtred.7658

oxtred.7658

Water 5 against a wall/ while immob or crippled is pretty fun. Earth has a blind, and water 2/air 2+ lightning strike procs are dps gain.

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Posted by: Ulion.5476

Ulion.5476

A necro has more natural survivability than a ele and underwater a ele loses some of that. Since we only get a regen instead of a direct heal. Seems a lot of classes instantly become weaker underwater. Lack of gear and knowledge tends to be the reason. Also, Anet stop worrying about balancing underwater combat a long time ago.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

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Yeah, my healing ability goes way down underwater since I don’t have any water fields to blast. But Earth 5 gives a nice blind field that helps with staying alive while you rack up crazy amounts of Bleeding on foes with Earth 1+2. Swap to Fire occasionally for Boil and to blast it for Might, and then hop into Water for Water 3+4 when you need to withdraw.

Like Kravick says, my Necromancer is an absolute beast underwater. (They’ve only gotten even more powerful now that Wells can be used underwater.) My Mesmer and Warrior also rarely have problems. And Ranger? Well, if you die underwater as a Ranger you’re doing something seriously wrong.

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Posted by: jpersson.7368

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I like underwater content and I went looking for your skill point. Was it the one by the Melandru Statue?

I managed with my wvw fresh air roaming build. It’s not my main and I carry mostly exotics.

Actually… I can’t add much to the thread but my build. Underwater fights take some time to get used to, but I for one think it’s worth it.

Edit: Wait a second, maybe there is something I can add. If the third dimension is taxing, try “walking on the bottom” instead of “hovering” in the water. The Melandru Statue skill point is well suited for that.

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Posted by: Tachenon.5270

Tachenon.5270

I like underwater content and I went looking for your skill point. Was it the one by the Melandru Statue?

I managed with my wvw fresh air roaming build. It’s not my main and I carry mostly exotics.

Actually… I can’t add much to the thread but my build. Underwater fights take some time to get used to, but I for one think it’s worth it.

Edit: Wait a second, maybe there is something I can add. If the third dimension is taxing, try “walking on the bottom” instead of “hovering” in the water. The Melandru Statue skill point is well suited for that.

I believe that’s the one – in Whisper Bay.

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Posted by: Rangerdeity.5847

Rangerdeity.5847

yah underwater most classes need a buff necro is not one of them. i solo’s 10 players in WvW on my necro its horrible what kinda crap you can do to people there

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Posted by: Tom.8029

Tom.8029

Also, Elementalists can get stealth underwater! But it’s a bit tough to pull off.

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