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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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So i have been making roaming WvW videos with my Condition elementalist. Let me know what you guys think ^^

The build is the same one i have posted on the forums several times, if you can’t find it, then its in some of the video descriptions as well

Latest Video: http://youtu.be/GieXgGnX1Bs

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Posted by: dimek.4592

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Ok, stop that right now! I had enough… Enough people showing their BEST videos agains lame players proving that eles can do the same condies damage in whole fight as average necor in 5 seconds…
Enough adulatory kitten about ‘might stacking domination’, ‘meta //*/6/6 builds’, ‘perfect rotations’ etc.

I appreciate that you make clear to everyone that this class has the lowest efficiency (efforts/results = efficiency) in the game, meaning that you have to work n times harder than x class to get the same result (if not worse). But just to make it clear, could you please entitle you topics with one and only true definition:
“the only class I’m having fun with – regardless of defeat or ineffectuality”. In other words, could you please let everyone know that they will frustrate playing this class just after having lots of fun with its diversity until realize that all these are just prospective victims of warriors, engineers, necros, thieves and any other guys that spent half much time to mastered their class…

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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I run 6 in neither Arcane or Water, nor do i run might stacking build, runes or traits so not quite sure what you are talking about with that. I run my own build, that i made myself several months ago. This isn’t no “Meta” build, It has great strengths but it does have weaknesses but that is just like every other build.

I much prefer playing a “harder” condition based build rather than a condition spam. Playing this takes more work and can be done easier/faster with other classes but does that mean its better. It’s all about how much fun you have.

I have played Condi Engineer, Condi Mesmer and Condi Necro over the spam of the game and i have by FAR had more fun playing Condi Ele.

Also, this is just some of the fights i have had. I am still new to this and still forget to record some video ’s having won fights where i have been outnumbered only to remember that i havent been recording.

Now, is the Condi ele player “good” for beating someone with a weak condition build or is the person that gets beat “bad” for losing to such a build?

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Posted by: oZii.2864

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Wow the hostility why? Anybody that watches a montage and thinks it always happens that way has other issues that need to be addressed.

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Posted by: LightningBlaze.4913

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Ok, stop that right now! I had enough… Enough people showing their BEST videos agains lame players proving that eles can do the same condies damage in whole fight as average necor in 5 seconds…
Enough adulatory kitten about ‘might stacking domination’, ‘meta //*/6/6 builds’, ‘perfect rotations’ etc.

I appreciate that you make clear to everyone that this class has the lowest efficiency (efforts/results = efficiency) in the game, meaning that you have to work n times harder than x class to get the same result (if not worse). But just to make it clear, could you please entitle you topics with one and only true definition:
“the only class I’m having fun with – regardless of defeat or ineffectuality”. In other words, could you please let everyone know that they will frustrate playing this class just after having lots of fun with its diversity until realize that all these are just prospective victims of warriors, engineers, necros, thieves and any other guys that spent half much time to mastered their class…

He made a couple of mistakes. Some noticed and some left unnoticed but that’s ok even against good players. The reason why it’s ok is because this game make bunker builds to be very forgiving. He can easily recover from mistakes on 1v1 encounters with his build. It is not about the profession only being fun. Every profession is the most fun towards different type of people. Every profession require time to perform efficiently. Sure the ele takes a bit more time due to the larger amount of weapon skills it possess but that’s all it requires… time. Every build across all the professions within this game has their strengths and weaknesses. When you are struggling against a specific profession/player you can be sure there are builds (including other weapon sets) that counter them as an ele. The ele can defeat all professions and all great players within this game but don’t expect a single build and playstyle to accomplish that goal.

Heidia- The elementalist is the #1 most OP profession in this game since beta!

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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He made a couple of mistakes. Some noticed and some left unnoticed but that’s ok even against good players. The reason why it’s ok is because this game make bunker builds to be very forgiving. He can easily recover from mistakes on 1v1 encounters with his build. It is not about the profession only being fun. Every profession is the most fun towards different type of people. Every profession require time to perform efficiently. Sure the ele takes a bit more time due to the larger amount of weapon skills it possess but that’s all it requires… time. Every build across all the professions within this game has their strengths and weaknesses. When you are struggling against a specific profession/player you can be sure there are builds (including other weapon sets) that counter them as an ele. The ele can defeat all professions and all great players within this game but don’t expect a single build and playstyle to accomplish that goal.

Yeah several times i use things like Frozen Burst a bit too late after Fire field has gone, a couple of times wasted skills like Cleansing Wave and Earthquake. I don’t think any player in the game can play this without making mistakes.

I even some times go to use a specific skill and forget that i am in the wrong attunement and waste some skills, that has happened a few times but again these sort of things can happen so it doesnt really bother me.

I would say many classes and builds can survive making the odd mistake. It isn’t just down to Bunker builds – Condition builds and high burst builds can still make mistakes and survive.

I can counter many builds with a few trait changes but that doesn’t mean i am 100% safe, no class and no build is. Hybrid builds will melt me in most situations encountered some VERY high burst builds that just melted me as if i was wearing armor made of paper as well. These things happen. It would be terrible for the game if a class/build could beat every other type of build in the game.

I have always loved ele, it was the first class i made during Pre-Launch and loved it, it got a bit stale when the D/D Bunker own everything period happened and that is when i went to other classes, came back about 4-5months ago before making my condi build.

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Posted by: killahmayne.9518

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Ok, stop that right now! I had enough… Enough people showing their BEST videos agains lame players proving that eles can do the same condies damage in whole fight as average necor in 5 seconds…
Enough adulatory kitten about ‘might stacking domination’, ‘meta //*/6/6 builds’, ‘perfect rotations’ etc.

I appreciate that you make clear to everyone that this class has the lowest efficiency (efforts/results = efficiency) in the game, meaning that you have to work n times harder than x class to get the same result (if not worse). But just to make it clear, could you please entitle you topics with one and only true definition:
“the only class I’m having fun with – regardless of defeat or ineffectuality”. In other words, could you please let everyone know that they will frustrate playing this class just after having lots of fun with its diversity until realize that all these are just prospective victims of warriors, engineers, necros, thieves and any other guys that spent half much time to mastered their class…

Chill dude it is just a video. If you don’t like then don’t watch and move on to another thread.

anyways cool video.

Mace/Greatsword Video (Sept Patch)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoAjKtD6MLY

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Posted by: Dahir.4158

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Frustration in the air
Everywhere I look around
Frustration in the air
Every sight and every sound

And I don’t know if I’m being foolish
Don’t know if I’m being wise

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Posted by: jonwar.4186

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enjoyed, nice video!

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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enjoyed, nice video!

Thanks, at least some people liked it i guess :/

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Posted by: Axialbloom.8109

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Pity ele condition builds are so bad

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Pity ele condition builds are so bad

The last person that said that i beat in a 1 Vs 1, They are far from bad. It just takes the right build and playstyle to bring the best out of them, sure we lack damaging conditions at the base of the class but that can be changed with ruins and sigils.

Ele is also the kind of class that you can make a few trait changes and be able to combat a different enemy build. Is it as strong as the other condition based classes? In some ways maybe not but its better in other ways. It is how you choose to build it that defines how good it might become.

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Posted by: Dahir.4158

Dahir.4158

Pity ele condition builds are so bad

The last person that said that i beat in a 1 Vs 1, They are far from bad. It just takes the right build and playstyle to bring the best out of them, sure we lack damaging conditions at the base of the class but that can be changed with ruins and sigils.

Ele is also the kind of class that you can make a few trait changes and be able to combat a different enemy build. Is it as strong as the other condition based classes? In some ways maybe not but its better in other ways. It is how you choose to build it that defines how good it might become.

To add to this post I’d like to give an example. My build relies on the 30 in earth for the grandmaster traits. Depending on who I fight (condi or dps builds) I can switch to Diamond Skin or Written in Stone and do really well against them. I fully agree with Ash in saying a simple trait change can be advantageous for us when fighting against difficult builds.

Some of you may say “oh diamond skin, such a noob no skill at all”, it doesn’t matter. It is a perfect counter to certain builds and why would I not take advantage of it? It’s here for a reason and I plan on making full use of it.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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To add to this post I’d like to give an example. My build relies on the 30 in earth for the grandmaster traits. Depending on who I fight (condi or dps builds) I can switch to Diamond Skin or Written in Stone and do really well against them. I fully agree with Ash in saying a simple trait change can be advantageous for us when fighting against difficult builds.

Some of you may say “oh diamond skin, such a noob no skill at all”, it doesn’t matter. It is a perfect counter to certain builds and why would I not take advantage of it? It’s here for a reason and I plan on making full use of it.

Exactly. When i see someone is running a condition build, i will swap out Stone Heart for Diamond Skin and then suddenly your build becomes stronger against a different type of opponent.

In my Videos i have shown fights against Condition builds and while it is no where near as strong against Hyrbid builds it will destroy full condition builds and that is what it was designed to do, not force people out of condition builds altogether but force them into making a choice -

Do you stay full condi and destroy everyone but be countered by Diamond Skin ele or do you sacrifice a bit of condition power for that little extra upfront damage so that you can beat Diamond Skin ele.

I actually don’t use Written in Stone, i find Stone Heart to be the better option, in by build at least. This is what benefit Condi Ele, in fact all ele have over other classes but it requires points to be spent in specific trees like 30 into Earth so that you can counter direct builds and condition builds, of course not at the same time because that would be insanely overpowered.

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Posted by: Dahir.4158

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I’m not even full condition ele. I’m a hybrid so I have a little bit of dps, but I am still unable to kill other eles who use Diamond Skin against me. DS eles with average amount of healing power and one or two warriors that I’ve faced are the only ones I’ve been unable to beat continuously.

I haven’t actually unlocked the Stone Heart trait as of yet just because I’m a lazy git and cant be bothered, lol. I will try it today for sure and hopefully I’ll choose it over WIS.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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I’m not even full condition ele. I’m a hybrid so I have a little bit of dps, but I am still unable to kill other eles who use Diamond Skin against me. DS eles with average amount of healing power and one or two warriors that I’ve faced are the only ones I’ve been unable to beat continuously.

I haven’t actually unlocked the Stone Heart trait as of yet just because I’m a lazy git and cant be bothered, lol. I will try it today for sure and hopefully I’ll choose it over WIS.

I am FULL condition damage, i wouldn’t be able to beat a Ele with Diamond Skin, at best it would be a tie i think. Though i could use Hounds of Balt and use that to get the Ele below 90% health as Hounds of Balt does hit rather hard and then just keep the pressure going and hope they can’t get back up to 90%

Stone Heart is really good. When i first heard about it i was really thinking it would be poor but it has been so good.

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Posted by: Dahir.4158

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I guess since my character is Sylvari I can use the Sylvan Hound elite to get them below 90%. Even though I use it I’m not even sure it does a lot of damage since I only use it for poison and bleeding. I’ll have to test it somehow to see how much damage it actually does.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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I guess since my character is Sylvari I can use the Sylvan Hound elite to get them below 90%. Even though I use it I’m not even sure it does a lot of damage since I only use it for poison and bleeding. I’ll have to test it somehow to see how much damage it actually does.

The benefit of the Sylvari Hound is that its immune to conditions and lasts for 60seconds (or it dies) Not even sure what its Health and Armor is. It deals 800-950 damage with 2 seconds of Poison and 4 seconds of Bleeding though no idea what the cool down of this is.

Hounds of Balt has 10k health and 2000Armor, not immune to conditions, lasts 30 seconds and deals 450-500 damage and inflicts 1 second of Burning with basic attack though again no idea cool down, it also has a second attack that deals 1800-2000damage in an AoE and is a leap finisher again no idea cool down on this either.

Hounds of Balt has a 240second cool down while Sylvari hound only has a 180second cool down and lasts up to 60seconds. It is quite hard to decide which is the better option, Hounds of Balt dies within seconds and has (imo) an INSANE cool down.

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Posted by: Axialbloom.8109

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Are you talking about duels?

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Posted by: Dahir.4158

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Are you talking about duels?

I’m guessing maybe duels, and roaming. Definitely not zerging.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Are you talking about duels?

I’m guessing maybe duels, and roaming. Definitely not zerging.

I run the same build with slight changes (Diamond Skin and Stone Heart changes alot) in duels, solo roaming, small group, guild group and zergs. It all depends on how you play it that will decide if you will be good. Especially in Zerg situations.

I will tend to pop Reaper of Grenth and fly into the group using Ride The Lightening or Burning Speed. This instantly gets Poison and Chill going, maybe burning as well. From there i will normally go through all my Burning Skills and pop either Earthquake or maybe Updraft before retreating to get health back up and before going back in.

It is all about getting in, getting your stuff done and then getting out again. It is also good as you can plan your next move, if you see them moving in a certain direction and you drop Burning Speed/Ring of Fire in their path knowing they will go through it which works really well as well.

If you are running low it is time to get out as fast as you can, things like Armor of Earth is great for that attack as they will normally drop stun fields and such.

Elite wise in Zergs you have one choice (as Human) and that is Reaper of Grenth, solo and duels you have other options but i again find Reaper of Grenth to be the better choice, mostly due to the insane cool down Hounds of Balt has and the fact it can die in seconds

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Posted by: Eucalyptus.9784

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I keep seeing people say that Signets are a bad Conditionalist choice. I’m relatively new to my Ele still, and came from a few years of playing a Mesmer, but to me the passive boosts, on top of using the “keep passives when activated” trait seemed pretty good…

If I want to run something like this:

http://tinyurl.com/ksl228h

What are some of the stronger utilities to use if Signets suck then? I don’t like Conjures, Glyphs don’t seem that good either, and I don’t get Regen/Vigor upon Cantrip use with this build…

(Note: The Signets are still assigned from when I had the “Keep Passive” trait assigned. Looking for what I should replace them with)

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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I keep seeing people say that Signets are a bad Conditionalist choice. I’m relatively new to my Ele still, and came from a few years of playing a Mesmer, but to me the passive boosts, on top of using the “keep passives when activated” trait seemed pretty good…

If I want to run something like this:

http://tinyurl.com/ksl228h

What are some of the stronger utilities to use if Signets suck then? I don’t like Conjures, Glyphs don’t seem that good either, and I don’t get Regen/Vigor upon Cantrip use with this build…

(Note: The Signets are still assigned from when I had the “Keep Passive” trait assigned. Looking for what I should replace them with)

The problem is that without Written In Stone they lose much of the thing that made them great and Written In Stone is no where near as good as Diamond Skin when facing Condition builds or Stone Heart when facing Burst builds.

You take Written In Stone and you weaken yourself by not having either Diamond Skin or Stone Heart.

The other issue is the active of them. The Passive is just so much more useful that you dont want to use the active and that is a problem, the same one that Warriors have with Healing Signet but slightly different due to just how powerful Healing Signet passive is.

Signet of Earth is pretty much the only one where i would actually WANT to use the active and i do, it is very useful. However, a Blind on a 30 second cool down? No thanks. Signet of Fire is pretty solid though.

As for your build, Signet of Fire isn’t needed as you would be using Fire quite a lot and the Burning from that with 40%+ food is plenty to be able to keep very good to near perma Burning going on a target. Signet of Earth is a great option though, i use it as well the added toughness is great and the immbo to catch runners is great. I would Keep Signet of Earth and replace the other 2 utilities myself.

With that you have plenty of options, Arcane Shield, Armor of Earth for defensive options. I personally wouldn’t use Mist Form as that really damages Condition Builds – too much time spent not applying conditions and they can be removed during that time and people can heal up abit knowing you are no threat for a few seconds.

Other options could include Glyph of Elemental Power or Maybe Lightening Flash for that little bit of added mobility and escape option.

With Diamond Skin i dont think Cleansing Fire is needed, i mean if you are really that worried about conditions you could just run Ether Renewal and again the Burning while nice isn’t needed due to all the Burning from Drakes Breath, Burning Speed and Ring of Fire.

As i Human which i believe you are, i wouldn’t run FGS. Reaper of Grenth is SO much more useful, great Chill and Poison access.

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Posted by: Narkodx.1472

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Good stuff gotta try it. Have you thought of Perplex runes? Got a decent amount of rupts with D/D.

Edit – Just noticed the confusion procs. DUH!

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Good stuff gotta try it. Have you thought of Perplex runes? Got a decent amount of rupts with D/D.

Edit – Just noticed the confusion procs. DUH!

Yeah Perplexity is very strong. Even with our limited number of Interrupts.

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Posted by: katniss.6735

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Saw deer finisher and closed tab. jk
But anyway, there’s no point to showcase condi vs mesmer. That just takes a fight that should last 30s and makes it last 2 mins while your condis do practically nothing.
The annotations critiquing yourself are amusing.
That first guy that responded was right. These guys you’re fighting are bad. And so are you quite frankly. There’s no comboing might at all to give you further boost. It’s just swapping to do random skills.

First video mesmer is running away with 10% and instead of finishing him with fire grab you swap attunements. Also, you could have immob’d people low with that earth signet. But nope.
If I got to fight AM all week I’d be making videos, too. Blooper videos.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Meh i have 2,100Condition damage buffed. I dont need Might. Now if it was for USEFUL fields then of course i would be using them more but Might isn’t needed when you have so much condition damage. So your point saying i am “bad” because i don’t combo for might, i don’t need Might. If the timing is right and i can get might that is okay i wouldn’t go out of my way to spam blasts for Might. Maybe that is a requirement/desired for some build it isn’t needed in mine.

I have ZERO power, my Fire Grab hits for like 900-1000 against Cloth users. It is rather pointless and rarely used because the damage is so low that it just isn’t worth using. So they got away, that doesn’t really bother me. I count them running as a win in my book.

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Posted by: Eucalyptus.9784

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Question: With such a low crit rate, does Sigil of Torment actually proc all that often?

Also: When your trait that gives you Armor of Earth at 50% hp kicks in, does it use the Cooldown for Armor of Earth if you have it slotted as well?

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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

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Question: With such a low crit rate, does Sigil of Torment actually proc all that often?

Also: When your trait that gives you Armor of Earth at 50% hp kicks in, does it use the Cooldown for Armor of Earth if you have it slotted as well?

With fury it will when it needs to. Armor of earth trait does not affect the utility skill.


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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Question: With such a low crit rate, does Sigil of Torment actually proc all that often?

Also: When your trait that gives you Armor of Earth at 50% hp kicks in, does it use the Cooldown for Armor of Earth if you have it slotted as well?

The crit chance is 7% that goes up to 27% when you swap attunements. Every crit hit you have has a 50% chance of proccing the sigil, that is what makes it a good option. If it was like 30% like some of them are then it really wouldn’t be worth it but as you have a 50% when you crit to proc it it does proc quite alot and has a very reasonable cool down.

No. The Trait is separate, so even if you have Armor of Earth it won’t use it up when you reach 50% health.

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Oh kitten, mom look, i’m on TV! Well, i got my kitten handed to myself (I’m the boyscout condi ranger), but i enjoyed this encounter. I’ll add that first time we met Armageddon forfeited instantly because he didin’t manage to switch from Stone Heart to Diamond Skin.

That’s beside the point, anyways. I really like the idea put behind this build. It offers extreme verstatility on the 30 Earth slot, being able to adequately combat both heavy power and condition builds. I’d love to see how it stands up versus hybrids, though.

Also, is Perplexity the absolutely best rune choice? I believe some new runesets, like Grenth might be considered (The chill from Reaper of Grenth hurts a truckload)

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Oh kitten, mom look, i’m on TV! Well, i got my kitten handed to myself (I’m the boyscout condi ranger), but i enjoyed this encounter. I’ll add that first time we met Armageddon forfeited instantly because he didin’t manage to switch from Stone Heart to Diamond Skin.

That’s beside the point, anyways. I really like the idea put behind this build. It offers extreme verstatility on the 30 Earth slot, being able to adequately combat both heavy power and condition builds. I’d love to see how it stands up versus hybrids, though.

Also, is Perplexity the absolutely best rune choice? I believe some new runesets, like Grenth might be considered (The chill from Reaper of Grenth hurts a truckload)

Yeah IF I can tell the build and swap in time then it is a huge advantage. Without Diamond you will die. That simple even Ether Renewal cant save you most of the time due to how very easily all other condi builds can spam conditions over and over. Though I have won fights where I havent been able to switch I time. I have also noticed power builds that spam conditions as well and you’ll see one especially in my next video that I will be uploading when I get home.

As for Perplexity. I have considered other rune sets though grenth isnt one of them. I think Balt or even Torment with the right build changes could be very solid. The problemwould be losing that burst damage when they are taking 2k hits when they attack.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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A bit late but here is my latest WvW Roaming Video: http://youtu.be/cXh6KxXEMWQ
Some decent fights, Aurora Glade were SO hard to find, it was like they gave up on the first day and decided not to do WvW or something :/

Already have some great videos for next weeks video, including a 1 Vs 2 against a Ranger and Warrior pair

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Posted by: Sigmoid.7082

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Its a great build. Wrecked me when i ran into you on my guard and ranger last night. Not to sure how to pressure this setup enough to force the player on the defensive. All in all hard o beat 1v1. Dual you again sometime man.

-Gandara Player-

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Posted by: Eucalyptus.9784

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Can’t watch from Canada

Is your build still the same as in the first post? I’ve been toying with a few slight changes with this build.

Could you link your current build/WvW gear actually? It’s not in your first video either, and I wonder if you’ve changed anything since the one before.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Its a great build. Wrecked me when i ran into you on my guard and ranger last night. Not to sure how to pressure this setup enough to force the player on the defensive. All in all hard o beat 1v1. Dual you again sometime man.

-Gandara Player-

Yeah were some good fights, i found it funny that you was easier to kill WITH the condition reduction food. Made a change from last night seeing as it was mostly Gandara just ruining fights like when it was 1 Vs 1 i had FIVE other Gandara get involved the moment they saw i was winning and it wasn’t the only time that happened.

Was winning a 1 Vs 2 against a Warrior and Engineer and then 3 other people came along to ruin the fight -.-

Can’t watch from Canada

Is your build still the same as in the first post? I’ve been toying with a few slight changes with this build.

Could you link your current build/WvW gear actually? It’s not in your first video either, and I wonder if you’ve changed anything since the one before.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fFEQJAoYlcMonhFOwvB8rNwHgRcEECGfACAPwirgUAA-T1yCABQoEEgDIAPqUgiGCuUa0iegl3fwH1Vk4BAklyspPRAkCAipRA-w

That is my basic build. I change some traits around depending on the person(s) i am fighting. For example no point using Diamond Skin against Power builds for example.

I have been testing a few things out which i need to do more realistic testing as they were done in OS duels so need actual WvW roaming experience with it to see if it will work or not.

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Posted by: Eucalyptus.9784

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Also question: Does our Lesser Elemental Glyph suck? The Fire Elemental might be a fun extra utility, since I’m only really relying on Lightning Flash + Glyph of Elemental Power right now. The 3 second cripple would be handy. Plus having a pet is rad.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Also question: Does our Lesser Elemental Glyph suck? The Fire Elemental might be a fun extra utility, since I’m only really relying on Lightning Flash + Glyph of Elemental Power right now. The 3 second cripple would be handy. Plus having a pet is rad.

In my opinion – Yes, it sucks. The Elite version sucks as well just not as much. Though it all depends on your gameplay style, build and such. For me it sucks but others think they are great. Same goes for FGS, i have never liked it and yet see loads that love it.

While its “rad” unless its Earth one they die VERY fast. The lesser ones don’t have the special attack that makes the ele even worth having .

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Posted by: Eucalyptus.9784

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I just realized it also has a cooldown, AFTER the cooldown/it dies… so yeah that’s a no-go. Thought it was permanent with just a recast. Ah well.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Nope, it lasts 60 seconds, assuming it doesn’t die before then. The cool down starts after it dies as well. What they should have done is made it so that we could activate their special abilities for the Elite version and allow us to do the same for the Lesser but of course one that is like 75% of the strength of the Elite version but that also kills the Elemental. That would have been pretty good.

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Posted by: Azure.8670

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youve come a long way Ash thats all im gonna say. great video.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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youve come a long way Ash thats all im gonna say. great video.

Thanks. It still feels kind of strange that people in game actually know me and my videos and build and even several saying they are trying condi because of the build and videos i made.

At the moment i am trying to figure out how (if at all possible) You can beat a Diamond Skin ele. For pretty much every other class going Hybrid is easy and the condition damage and direct damage is still great. Though it is not the case with Ele.

Same with the Cele builds that you see about. The damage, the defense, the healing and the condition damage is just a bit too much to be able to handle currently. Been thinking about maybe a set of armor with Soldiers stats and Perplexity, but i have to save up for Perplexity first

You need to have high enough damage both direct and condition but still be able to keep the defense and healing up as well which is rather tricky. Personally, i hate the Celestial stat combo and think it should never have been introduced. The game shouldn’t have a stat combo that is near useless on most classes but extremely powerful on one class.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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In the process of editing my latest WvW video. Should be up tomorrow

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I have no issues killing DS Eles on my S/D thief.

Gratz on trying on trying something different but TBH condi Ele is pretty terrible. It’s not really original either, the original Da Phoenix Ele was effectively a bunker condi Ele.

Diamond Skin still remains OP vs other condi classes, but useless everywhere else.

downed state is bad for PVP

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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I have no issues killing DS Eles on my S/D thief.

Gratz on trying on trying something different but TBH condi Ele is pretty terrible. It’s not really original either, the original Da Phoenix Ele was effectively a bunker condi Ele.

Diamond Skin still remains OP vs other condi classes, but useless everywhere else.

if that is the case you are not full condi. Hybrid builds pretty much make Diamond Skin useless. That being said, i haven’t lost to a Condition Thief in a while. You can tell if they are full condi or hybrid very early.

Though, that is the point of Diamond Skin. It is meant to make people go more Hybrid rather than rely ONLY conditions.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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My latest Video: http://youtu.be/CKbyKeO94Xk
Been busy today farming SPvP got the track or Orr unlocked and hoping to get the Rune of Orr to see what they are like.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Finally managed to get Runes of Orr. I now have:

Burning: 75% Increased Duration
Bleeding: 70% Increased Duration
Poison: 80% Increased Duration

Going to give the new build a try in WvW tonight

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Posted by: cursE.1794

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(efforts/results = efficiency)

Ele must be the most efficient class in the game then

After watching this video, conditionalist looks like a viable option to me. It seems all you have to do is make sure you’re fighting total noobs who are afk as you engage them.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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(efforts/results = efficiency)

Ele must be the most efficient class in the game then

After watching this video, conditionalist looks like a viable option to me. It seems all you have to do is make sure you’re fighting total noobs who are afk as you engage them.

So ignore all the fights where i am attacked first..
Most of the fights are in the Ruins after all, what do you expect. Yet none of them were AFK. Some were semi-AFK sure but does that mean the only reason i won? Of course not.

My final tournament video will be a few days late, taking a few days break from all things GW2.

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I’ve been playing Armageddon’s build for a few days now and even though, at first, I tried it more out of a morbid curiosity, it’s quickly becoming my primary build. I’ve found that folks almost freak out when they see the confusion stacks and so they use their CD’s to remove them. Sad for them is that’s when I burn them with everything else I have and they don’t have much left they can do but die, or run.

I actually got jumped by a pretty impressive thief last night that though he was able to run away and disappear, I dropped him down to about 20% while he’d done little to me.

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