Maguuma [SWäG]
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I have been playing D/D Ele since BWE 3. Here are some videos of my WvW adventures.
EDIT: Consolidated all the videos to the first post.
First vid: Some great WvW fights with a couple guildies
Second vid: Roaming with the guild
3rd vid: More solo fights
4th: Ele/thief Duo, new build NEW
Enjoy the videos
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Changed topic name and uploaded another video thats more guild focused. Here it is:
Let me know if you have any tips/suggestions/questions.
Are you in constant communication with your party members? i.e. do you think you’d be able to pull off similar things in a pug group? I’ve about the same build, gear and tactics, but I can’t pull off this. I’m thinking it’s because I’m on without any guild mates and chat is way too slow.
lol we have the ability to all be in voice chat.. but no.. its usually just me and one other in chat.. and we dont even talk 80% of the time… we have MUCH to improve when it comes to communication.
The difference is probably the skill of the other players you are running with.. each person I run with are highly experienced MMO players.
So to answer your question, would I be able to do this in a PUG? Probably not, I would be able to get away if I wanted but we would not be able to down as many enemies and would probably get over run much faster.
And do you have any synergy between your builds? Have you built yours in relation to have those other players or would you feel just as comfortable running with a pug zerg or roaming by yourself?
Nice, great editing, solid gameplay and good soundtracks! Wish my skills were so responsive but that’s life.
You 0/20/0/20/30 or 0/15/5/20/30? Dishing out some respectable damage there, mind sharing?
Bahahahaha. I’m that poor underleveled S/D sylvari ele from [Guam] and [SM] you guys killed around 9:00 in your second video.
When I saw you were from Maguuma and in that cultural gear, I had to watch the whole thing to see if that fight made an appearance. 2 Eles and 2 thieves roaming is a nasty combo. Hoping to see you guys around again for some revenge when I hit 80 lol.
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@nalenb
we don’t build our traits for synergy, we all just build however we want, and lately it sucks because we have been running 2 eles 3 thieves, so the eles are usually focused the whole fight and all we can do is run around frantically trying to survive.
@MarzAttakz
0 15 0 25 30 are my current traits. I am trying to go as high dmg as possible without losing our amazing healing rotation, the only way i see getting more dmg is 10 15 0 25 20, but i dont want to lose the EA dodge heal, or the quicker attunement swapping.
@Luzano
our guild is out roaming pretty much every night with a group of 3-5 usually, also usually oceanic times.
good gp >> all but you can pull off crazy stuff in WvW even solo.
Hi Rhoto,
great Videos! Would u post your Equip and the Accessoir!?
Many thanks
These are my traits: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEUQJAoYlEGaOGcQ5Ae+AAlxJuIP8Q5xM5YDA;TsAgzCqoAzAmAMLYOwkgNE5IyMDA
I use beserker weapons, PVT Armor, and Clerics accessories
If the link doesn’t work copy and paste it
Hmmm, Runes of the Forge, interesting break from convention there!
Hmmm, Runes of the Forge, interesting break from convention there!
Lol no ignore the armor part, I use runes of the forge on my bunker ele for spvp, not for wvw. I would use divinity for wvw.. i just dont have enough gold for a set of those yet.
You and me both bud :P
My last video for the year. Enjoy and happy holidays!
Cameo, score. :p Good vid.
Is Ether Renewal better than Signet of Restoration?
I don’t trait 30 water so I miss out on some of the condition removal most 0 10 0 30 30 builds have, so I feel Ether Renewal is necessary. The down side is it makes you unable to attack for the 3 1/2 seconds you have to cast it. The upside is its up every 15 seconds and you are completely condition free after every time you use it.
Did u test Cleansing Fire?
I like the 15 in air and I could imagine that fire is another condition removal option.
Signet is unreliable if you’re playing against people with high enough damage. The reason it works for Exala is that he has healing gear and he’s playing versus a bunch of idiots that he can kite endlessly.
If you intend to actually commit and fight strong opponents in 1v1 or 1v2 + wear more offensive gear, Ether (or Glyph) is far preferable.
Once you’ve tasted how amazing Ether can be in a D/D build it can be very hard to go back. It takes some getting used to, though.
I’m just new to the ele and I wanna see a comparison. I’ve been testing signet atm and it’s okay, since I’ve been PvEing so far. But Ether seems very strong when used correctly while it’s on a short cd. With Ether and Cleansing Flame there shud be enough cond. removals. I’m thinking of cutting points in water to put them into earth coz this extra toughness is sometimes very helpful. And what about earth 1? How good is it? Gaining extra toughness while channeling Ether? Any ideas?
kitten?!?! I just tried out Ether…HOW MANY TICKS?!?!?! xD Soooo many cond. removals! Sooo guuud.
Ether + 30 water is pretty ridiculous with the amount of condition removal you can get. You can literally just dance or have a serious discussion in guild chat while tanking someone spamming conditions.
On a side note – Rhoto, how has roaming been for you guys since the new match up? I’m 80 now and fully geared so I’ll be looking out for you guys when we (Ebay) hit T4 again.
Haha xD Hot stuff xD
I wanna go for some terrible hybrid air/earth/water/arcane d/d. Ether is made for such a build kinda. I will try some stuffs out. Do u guys think that 30 arcana is a mandatory? swapping is quite cool with 60% cd but how about evasion a…(dunno how this trait is called xD)? Stronger than having some more dmg/toughness?
What’s ur gear? Pow/Vit/Tough? Anyone using more prec or heal+?
@Luzano
Ive only played twice since this new match up and both times it was pretty zergy, So I can’t really comment on the roaming scene for this week. We would enjoy fighting Ebay again though.
@Whizzy
I have thought about dropping down to 20 arcane to add 10 in fire for a higher dmg build but I am already switching attunements so fast that I lock myself out of all of them pretty often. I would really have to slow my playstyle down to accomodate, and I don’t want to do that. So ya 30 arcane is pretty much mandatory for me.
@dreztina
When you gonna join OG?
Yeah. That’s what I thought. I’m lvl 27 right now and it’s a pain in the kitten switching attunements. Takes soooooo freakin’ long.
What do u think about earth? Are 10 in earth this viable? I guess that I will drop 5 points as well in water for having 15 in air for more lighting strikes and dmg. And with ether these 30 in water arent this much needed. +2% dmg for each boons on the other hand seems very powerful, I’d keep it I guess.
Chipsu is nice and doesn’t afraid of anything. Good videos. <3
Here is my newest video:
Ele/thief duo action with a new burstier build. Let me know what you think!
Nice vid and style.
Looks like me a little bit slower but more precise with your hits.
I also like the fast ground targets with lightnig flash ;P.
I have noticed that you dont switch attunemnts while you channel the heal. That wont interrupt. same with churning earth. You can even cast other spells while channeling. Also you can dogerole while in mistform for EA
Ah another thing: You should use some maintance oils or sharpening stones to get an extra 100 power oder precision.
Can you post your overall stats and the bufffood your using ?
For your build with 20 air you could try out the Knights gear for even mor crit
p.s.: can you tell me your record tool and codec? i was trying to film too but i have some issus to install divx and the lossless codec will produce 3gb/min
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Snizzle,
Thanks for the tips, I’m constantly learning more and more causing me to slowly advance my playstyle. I actually have started trying to switch attunements less rapidly to make sure the right attunement is available when i need it, and also so that the CDs I need in that attunement are going to be there for me. But there are alot of things you mentioned that would be useful, for example switching attunements right before CE lands for the fury buff. I will practice switching attunements during the last spell of the current attunement I channel.
For your question about record tool and codec… I use fraps to record, but I don’t really know much about codecs and have no clue which I use.
For food I usually use the one that gives 10% crit dmg and 200 pow after a kill. I will have to look into using those other buff items >_<
You should really use 25 Water/15 Air if you want the optimal setup. The damage you lose by not having the 25 Water trait (2% for each Boon) is really high considering the massive amount of Boons we keep up as D/D Elementalists. Also, when you have 15 Air you have to be aware of that and try to time your Air attunements for when you have a target selected (and in range) due to the nuke. I saw you without one for quite a few attunements.
Other than that, just try to Earth roll in your Fire fields a little more and you’re good.
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You should really use 25 Water/15 Air if you want the optimal setup. The damage you lose by not having the 25 Water trait (2% for each Boon) is really high considering the massive amount of Boons we keep up as D/D Elementalists. Also, when you have 15 Air you have to be aware of that and try to time your Air attunements for when you have a target selected (and in range) due to the nuke. I saw you without one for quite a few attunements.
Other than that, just try to Earth roll in your Fire fields a little more and you’re good.
I disagree; there’s a lot to be said about going 20 air/20 water and grabbing aeromancer’s alacrity. For a D/D ele you only miss out on a little bit of vigor/regen in the long run, but the increase to your crit damage/uptime on shock aura and updraft is something I’ve become addicted to.
What? You don’t miss out on any buffs, but you miss out on a permanent 10% damage increase.
You may have become addicted to it, but it’s pretty bad.
He’s also not even using Aeromancer’s Alacrity.
As Bufffood: My facorite ist the omnomberry Ghost or the currybutternut squash soup.
That both boost your crit chance. The ghost brings a little extra damage on crit and a hugh amount of lifereg per crit. the butternut soup brings 100 precision and 10%critdmg.
Thats much better than your on kill thing. This more a pve thing cause your not killing a foe every 30 seconds. If your done with your opponent you have mostly to get of and reg health loosing uptime of your buff or your opponents are simply dead and you cant use it.
As long as your in a smale scale.
If your run with the zerg that would work fine but in a zerg you dont realy need something like that because your in a zerg and only need to get a few hits on your opponents to get your bag.
I also tried a 20 0 20 30 build as dd ele. For the damage the 20% dmg on less than 33% health realy kicks a thiefs kitten But i would only use that build in a more crit focused build.
Bcause crit ist way more effective than pure power.
I played with that for a long time. If you do the Blood sigil compared with the ghost and the water signit brings a hugh amount on life per second . (80% crith chance)
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Just since there’s some mention of food, I switched to Lemongrass Poultry Soup a while back and now I will never use another food again. If you’ve never tried it, I highly suggest you do. Immobilize is pretty much the #1 thing that kills eles, and -40% duration to immobs (as well as all other conditions)? Yes please.
Good video Chipsu.
Nice Chipsu!
0/20/0/20/30 the logical evolution of our bunker build. Glad to see the more experienced ele’s adopting the harder hitting option and moving away from full clerics Please for the chalk of cheese select a target man! What I liked the most about your video though was the honesty of it, showing both the strengths and weaknesses of moving away from full bunker, amazing what a difference such a minor trait and accessory adjustment makes to our class.
Looking forward to your next video man.
I know a lot of people love evasive arcana, but I’ve been running 0/20/0/30/20 for a while and I really think it’s better. EA is, imo, better on paper than in reality. I think you get more benefit from dodging dangerous attacks than you do from the EA procs. Add in the fact that you lose the 2% damage/boon which is, imo, unacceptable, and I think it’s far better to drop 10 arcana.
Im with you bro, im running 0/20/0/30/20 and it does wonders, the skill on dodge is overrated.
What im curious is whats ur crit chance and healing with those accesories? Im using emerald accesories (power prec toughness) instead of healing and im having good results but ya healing may be a little weak.
For some reason in this game.. I find very hard to target people. I’m so used to tab-targetting in other games that actually target the person closest to the center of your screen that I never really had to click on people. In this game if I use tab-target, it targets about 30 random things before it actually gets to my enemy, so it is forcing me to click… and I dont click anything…ever when I am pvping… so its an adjustment I’m having to work through.
I havent really looked at all the different food yet, infact I JUST started using foods a couple weeks ago.
for the build, I was 0 15 0 25 30 before i switched to this.. I know what I am missing from water 25, the 20% dmg from low health enemies is what I was going for. There are two things stopping me from taking 10 out of arc, thats the heal on dodge, and the quicker attunement swapping. Because a big part of our survivability is determined by how often we can switch to water for our heals, and how often we can switch to earth for protection.
Whats ur crit chance?
Im with you bro, im running 0/20/0/30/20 and it does wonders, the skill on dodge is overrated.
What im curious is whats ur crit chance and healing with those accesories? Im using emerald accesories (power prec toughness) instead of healing and im having good results but ya healing may be a little weak.
I was running this build for a while after I got bored of the (can’t kill anything) 0-10-0-30-30 and I’d agree that it is better for damage output to have 30 in water than 30 in arcane. Aura sharing or basically unlimited condition removal plus 10-14% more damage is better than blowing a dodge to either heal or gain 3 might.
The build I have been running the last few days is 0-20-10-30-10. Blasphemy right? I’m really enjoying it though. Vigor on crit was hard to part with, and attunements feel slow still, but with cantrip mastery I can have vigor a good amount of the time and and the attunement recharge rate still matches with the most important skills. The option for either protection on aura (+ sharing, so nice) or extra armor of earth at 50% hp (oh stability, how do I adore thee).
I use 2x rune of water and 4x rune of altruism in full pow/tou/vit armor; Knight’s rings and amulet and 1 dagger; Valkyrie’s earrings and 1 dagger; berzerker’s back with exquisite ruby.
Next traits I want to try are 0-30-0-30-10. Automatic shocking aura and more crit/damage but glassier……
I ask you both, what are ur crit chances? I seem to go low on crit chance whenever i replace power prec toughness trinkets/jewelry (35% atm w/o fury)
Personally I’m at something like 44% crit chance before fury and 56% crit damage, but I run glassier than most.
And Thrash, I’m surprised you are running the 10 arcane. I tried it for a night, but found the attunement gcd was tripping me up too hard and I couldn’t do a smooth transition for combos. You don’t have any trouble with that?
Personally I’m at something like 44% crit chance before fury and 56% crit damage, but I run glassier than most.
And Thrash, I’m surprised you are running the 10 arcane. I tried it for a night, but found the attunement gcd was tripping me up too hard and I couldn’t do a smooth transition for combos. You don’t have any trouble with that?
At first, yeah, but I’m getting used to it. I really wish attunement gcd wasn’t tied to traits, but I’m trying to find a good balanced build which doesn’t just default to 30 arcane, and I felt the same way when I went from 30 arcane to 20. Just took a bit of time to train my fingers to mash buttons a little slower.
29% crit (without fury, but fury is up most or all of the time anyway) 41 crit damage. Not the highest numbers, but there’s also the nearly 18k hp, 2.5k armor and +40% boon duration to consider. Going full ‘zerker and ruby would give a lot more, but I couldn’t play the way I do with that gear (mostly front line WvW, hitting groups to push back lines and break sieges, there’s no way to dodge everything).
I don’t win 1v1s with bunkers with this build, but I can soak their damage and ignore them or pressure them into their heal+retreat mode quickly (so I guess that is a sort of win). I can turn group v group fights in favor of my group pretty quickly with all the boons and CC I can crank out while still surviving and dishing out damage that no one can ignore and soak (except the tankiest of tanks, but then I can ignore or chase them off as well). That is, when I am playing well or against bad opponents, most of the time I just get rolled ‘cause I’m old and slow. ;p
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Old and slow, I love that! I feel that way too sometimes.
Seems we have similar playstyles though and I’m finding giving up on the 0/10/0/30/30 build tough since our server is back into EU tier1. Although I have ditched the clerics gear I still need the extra staying power since I’m pushing the frontline together with my guilds heavy brethren (don’t tell them I’ve dropped the cleric’s though).
I do think it’s time to move deeper into Air for me, sadly I haven’t had much time this week to test things out as running into 25-40 man blobs with 20 allies has become the norm.
Are we seeing a shift in meta here, perhaps a rebellion against the D/D Invasion? Interesting times for us WvW Elementalists indeed!
What? You don’t miss out on any buffs, but you miss out on a permanent 10% damage increase.
You may have become addicted to it, but it’s pretty bad.
He’s also not even using Aeromancer’s Alacrity.
Saccing some constant damage for more crit damage and increased uptime on your strongest weapon set utility is bad?
That warrior you play with is awesome. Sweet videos.
I ask you both, what are ur crit chances? I seem to go low on crit chance whenever i replace power prec toughness trinkets/jewelry (35% atm w/o fury)
My crit was only at 24% while recording this video, crit dmg was at 54%.. this is before all food or buffs.
I have already went back to my previous build 0 15 0 25 30 and switched up my gear a bit. Its a bit more balanced, 0 20 0 20 30 was fun and it is a viable build.. it just wasnt working out for me. My guild has a tendency to always fight out numbered, and this build was dying too easily under that pressure.
I am also thinking about going 0 10 10 30 20 auramancer for guild groups.. I just wish the range was larger for aura share.
edit: spelling error
can you post that kind of excotics to buy for d/d ele . Back in game and need to gear up a little bit
Iam aktually trying the 0 25 0 25 0 20 build or in variation 0 20 0 30 0 20
combined with about 50-60% crit + 20% from aura and 50% critdamage
Thats also working good
I Also recorded a few gbs last night and ill up a vid the next days from it ;P
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