Guild Wars 2

if the new update is involving Beam abilities dealing damage to all units (up to 3-5) between player and target,Water Blast should turn into more of a “Water Jet” sort of animation,so we can actually get it to connect to players not in direct melee range of the target,especially in chaotic situations with multiple enemies
the healing is already mediocre when not specced into Healing Power,which is acceptable,of course, considering it’s spammability,but the amount of times it would actually heal anyone (with the amount of movement required in this game) it’s just not worth staying in Water Attunement for it currently,but i could definitely see usability with it this way (or similar)
thoughts?

I’m more pondering what this would mean for scepter air and mesmer greatsword…

they already explained that,the Greatsword will now be able to have more AoE capabilities (which it lacks besides the fragile Berserker) and Confusing Images will “be able to spread 25 stacks of confusion across 5 targets”
Scepter Air does sound interesting,didn’t think of that
but the post was for Water Blast suggestion…..

wait; what? source please?

http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2guru/b/377719641

44:22 in
he talks about GS and Confusing Images
i’m not entirely certain of EVERY beam doing this
i thought that’s what he said
or i’m mixing what somebody else told me
don’t remember,can’t check atm,response on more information would be supportive

state of the game interview with GW2guru

to point out the relevant bit:

spatial surge and other beam skills will pierce, instead of just clipping through enemies

in other words, when scepter 1A zaps an enemy, any enemies between you and the target will also be zapped.

the OriginalPoster (screw you forum software) is suggesting that water blast should be turned into a beam like water spraying from a hose, that way it would heal people around the enemy, and in the path of the beam

(seriously, “the” “OP” “is” “suggesting” is kittened out >_<)

AH; I dont watch those… i dislike listening to people talking xD
they mentioned arc lightning and guardian downed 1 as also being affected

… id rather see frost bow 1 get changed to a jet (if that change is going live) than water blast

Calcifire.1864:

state of the game interview with GW2guru

to point out the relevant bit:

spatial surge and other beam skills will pierce, instead of just clipping through enemies

in other words, when scepter 1A zaps an enemy, any enemies between you and the target will also be zapped.

the OriginalPoster (screw you forum software) is suggesting that water blast should be turned into a beam like water spraying from a hose, that way it would heal people around the enemy, and in the path of the beam

(seriously, “the” “OP” “is” “suggesting” is kittened out >_<)

wat,exactly about the op?

Alpha.1308:

Calcifire.1864:

state of the game interview with GW2guru

to point out the relevant bit:

spatial surge and other beam skills will pierce, instead of just clipping through enemies

in other words, when scepter 1A zaps an enemy, any enemies between you and the target will also be zapped.

the OriginalPoster (screw you forum software) is suggesting that water blast should be turned into a beam like water spraying from a hose, that way it would heal people around the enemy, and in the path of the beam

(seriously, “the” “OP” “is” “suggesting” is kittened out >_<)

wat,exactly about the op?

just me grappling with the forum software :P
that string of words is censored because from the “P” in OP to the S in suggesting it is a profanity :P (specifically, a yellowish waste liquid produced by the kidneys)

really? odd….
it’s annoying when filters are that sensative…anyway back ontopic again,yes,exactly what i meant about the Water Blast (which i often mistook the name for Water Jet anyway for some reason…) except you said that it would heal around the enemy,i meant just in the jet stream,as for the above statement,Frost Bow 1 should change ALONG with it,if anything,it would be weird to see a jet stream comming from a bow and arrow,but,since Water Blast and Frost Bow 1 are already the same thing now,it should either change along with it,or get improved healing (since currently it already heals for like 10 more anyway at lvl 80 and everything else is exactly the same)

Haven’t watched the discussion, but 25 stacks of confusion screams op.

Alpha.1308:

http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2guru/b/377719641

Raptured.9307:

Haven’t watched the discussion, but 25 stacks of confusion screams op.

It’s 5 stacks of confusion on up to a maximum of 5 targets, not 25 stacks on any one person.

ThiBash.5634:

Alpha.1308:

http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2guru/b/377719641

<sarcasm>So glad that I don’t have to visit all these obscure websites to get a decent idea of the future of Guild Wars 2. Thankfully I can find everything I need to know right here on the official website</sarcasm>

Twitch is obscure? Should we stream it on TheWeatherChannel.com ?

Nilgoow.1037:

Twitch is obscure? Should we stream it on TheWeatherChannel.com ?

Obviously, they should update the forums so you’re capable of streaming your posts via video instead of just typing them out and people having to read them

They could definitely change a few of Elementalist’s attacks to make them more unique while also providing a bit of AoE through this update.

Curently though, Staff’s auto attack in water is a bit different in that it hits its target and then splashes an AoE heal around that target meaning the heal is concentrated around the target. If they were to change Staff water 1, I wouldn’t want that changed.. I like being able to aid the person fighting a target by attcking their target or a target near them.. If it were changed to a beam, I’d be expect it to create an AoE heal around the target and any targets within the stream, not heal any allies within the stream…they could change the way the attack works wholesale but I’d prefer they didn’t.

They could probably make all Scepter auto attacks into beams for elementalist and come out on top (a beam that burns all targets in a line, a beam that stacks vulnerability…keep earth the same I guess. The scepter autos are just not very good.

Twitch is the biggest gaming streaming site out there, opposite of obscure :p If you’re on forums (already in the top 10% of players interacting) it’s not much to go one step further if you’re interesting :p

On topic, A water beam would be awesome, all 4 staff 1 skills are a bit too similar, with the chain lightning being the most interesting, effect wise.

Adding a beam that allows a little healing on ranged people too along with a new and interesting looking mechanic (that doesn’t exist on any other staff skill in the game) would be awesome. We already have the animation for it with the air staff 2 blind :p (at least on my asura)

Scepter attacks becoming beams would be a very nice buff for an underused weapon though i’d be careful, kinda makes a big “ATTACK HERE” sign :p

i think people object to it being on a third party site and not anets; and rightfully so; if they’re going to talk about future updates it should atleast be officially noted on the forums

Calcifire.1864:

state of the game interview with GW2guru

to point out the relevant bit:

spatial surge and other beam skills will pierce, instead of just clipping through enemies

in other words, when scepter 1A zaps an enemy, any enemies between you and the target will also be zapped.

the OriginalPoster (screw you forum software) is suggesting that water blast should be turned into a beam like water spraying from a hose, that way it would heal people around the enemy, and in the path of the beam

(seriously, “the” “OP” “is” “suggesting” is kittened out >_<)

looks something like “the okittenugesting?”

For some reason the forum pics up words with spaces, so it sees a swear word across your 3 words and kittens it. I had one once where I said something about someone targeting something and it pulled a swear word out of the 2 words and kitened it

I love this idea. It would make the attack very unique (both visually and mechanically) and much more useful overall.

The only problem I can see is that Staff already has Geyser and Healing Rain that heal on their own as well as creating Water fields which can heal even more. Having very effective / reliable healing on Water Blast as well might be a bit much.

Nilgoow.1037:

Twitch is obscure? Should we stream it on TheWeatherChannel.com ?

Up until this post, I’ve personally never heard of it. But that’s not the point of my earlier statement.

My point is that, I check the official website of this game almost every day, and I still miss 90% of the news.

Now, I could go through each and every major gaming website, but I have a day job.

Raptured.9307:

Haven’t watched the discussion, but 25 stacks of confusion screams op.

They said 25 between 5 people. So the beam still does 5 stacks, but is now piercing so you can end up with 25 stacks as a whole. Pretty misleading and probably not as much a buff as it sounds like.
After all, since the problems with confusion and conditions as a whole will remain unsolved, it’s only use will still be wvw, where people are dumb/distracted enough to get lined up like that. For pve it will still be crap, and in spvp you will most likely see a piercing beam that actually hits multiple people in about 1 of 3 games anyway.