Guild Wars 2

lets start thinking of builds Currently I think of something like 20/10/0/10/30 with lightning hammer as a weapon and staff, or something with fresh air for constant attunement swap and dmg ? Im currently working my way through the whole conjuring cuz I’ve actually never used anything except FGS but I’ll try few builds put around toughness constant dps , some healing and maybe if possible prec.

I do stricktly PvP but other builds are welcome as well :P

If the leaked buffs are what they´re doing, they´ll still be just a gimmick.

Puissance+lava axe+DONT TOUCH MY kitten CONJURES YOU PUGS.
Obvious pve gc build.

I for one am excited. I like the conjured weapons, even though they need—and apparently are getting—some love.

I know people long ago were screaming for ele weapon swap, well I’ve always seen conjured as those weapons. Staff for support (range)? Need to get in there? Switch to hammer. D/D? Need to back up but still deal dmg? Use that axe. etc.

I look forward to conjure buffs. I use hammer/bow/FGS as is. It’s fun sharing weapons too. I want to love the shield, but in its current state, I can’t take it over the hammer for example.

I’ll post my conjure build a bit later. It does very well in PvE. None of this applies to PvP…another beast altogether.

Keep Calm, and Conjure On.

Strang.8170:

If the leaked buffs are what they´re doing, they´ll still be just a gimmick.

Exact.

PlatypusRex.3428:

I for one am excited. I like the conjured weapons, even though they need—and apparently are getting—some love.

I know people long ago were screaming for ele weapon swap, well I’ve always seen conjured as those weapons. Staff for support (range)? Need to get in there? Switch to hammer. D/D? Need to back up but still deal dmg? Use that axe. etc.

I look forward to conjure buffs. I use hammer/bow/FGS as is. It’s fun sharing weapons too. I want to love the shield, but in its current state, I can’t take it over the hammer for example.

I’ll post my conjure build a bit later. It does very well in PvE. None of this applies to PvP…another beast altogether.

Keep Calm, and Conjure On.

Preach it brothah.

Axelifus.3269:

Puissance+lava axe+DONT TOUCH MY kitten CONJURES YOU PUGS.
Obvious pve gc build.

Hey!!!Dont steal my idea.Just tested and after a few autos i can get 13 stack of might just from that.Now with the conjure buf it would be near 25 :O !!

For spvp im gonna try bunker staff with lighting hammer.Basically its role is never die,never kill ,DECAP from anything and everything with tornado,imroved hammer 3 ,2 static fields,gust,immob and the new sexy unsteady ground which i hope doesnt have a trillion years cooldown.
Then im gonna think something about the new shield.And of course i still think fiery gs is the best elite available to ele.
Btw i dont think they will be gimmicks.Having been toying around with the elite i can say that giving up all your skills for new 5 is not always a bad thing.It just depends on how good the actual 5 skills are.And not forget that while you just used a simple utility you are burning your enemies cds while whn you are finished with the conjure you got all your cds waiting for you

They need to make earth shield a stunbreaker. I’d replace armor of earth with that if it was.

Nikkinella.8254:

They need to make earth shield a stunbreaker. I’d replace armor of earth with that if it was.

I thought about it to and it would be sweet.But truth be told they cant do that
Imagine if it stunbreaks at 60 sec cd.On top of the stunbreak you would get instantly 2 cc plus a 3 sec immunity and the option to have them again at the near future by picking up the duplicate.
That is so strong compared to every other utility we have.Although i hope they reduce the casting time to 1/4.If theres gonna be a stunbreak on these weapons it has to be into something that doesnt already provide a tone of support and defence by itself cause then it becomes a no brainer to take it as your defence

Yeah because if we had something that good we’d be warriors. They’d probably give warrior earth shield as a stunbreak before we got any useful skills.

Nikkinella.8254:

Yeah because if we had something that good we’d be warriors. They’d probably give warrior earth shield as a stunbreak before we got any useful skills.

lol

A s/d ele with the new conjure axe will be able to get about 24+ stacks of AOE might without party support.

Dragon’s Tooth (x3) -> Ring of Fire -> Phoenix (x6) -> Arcane Wave (x9) -> Earthquake (x12) -> Earth dodge (x15) -> Churning Earth (x18) -> Axe’s Ring of Fire -> Axe’s second skill (x21) -> Axe’s second skill 5 seconds after, on the RoF if it still exists, or on burning retreat (x24). And 50s of aoe fury, of course (not more because of the upcoming stack duration limit).

Hello, +875 Power and Condition Damage while playing solo. Without sigil of battle. Without might traits. Feel free to use any other sigil with sigil of force. Bloodlust, maybe? Sigil of Energy, for far more defense? Maybe Sigil of Hydromancy for some extra burst. Better than sigil of fire, in my opinion.

the buffs still not enough i use conjures same as everyone else, ice bow —> skill 4 —> drop…

id like to see fgs to stun where the secondary lands to be honest..

but then again i also think other than elite, should only spawn one conjure tht you can drop n pick up when you want with in its spawn time…

but my god shield needs to be a stun breaker, i love the shield but can never fit it in anywhere cause its just crap (and my engi friend forces me to take lightning hammer, cause he so wants engis to have a hammer heh)

DiogoSilva.7089:

A s/d ele with the new conjure axe will be able to get about 24+ stacks of AOE might without party support.

Dragon’s Tooth (x3) -> Ring of Fire -> Phoenix (x6) -> Arcane Wave (x9) -> Earthquake (x12) -> Earth dodge (x15) -> Churning Earth (x18) -> Axe’s Ring of Fire -> Axe’s second skill (x21) -> Axe’s second skill 5 seconds after, on the RoF if it still exists, or on burning retreat (x24). And 50s of aoe fury, of course (not more because of the upcoming stack duration limit).

Hello, +875 Power and Condition Damage while playing solo. Without sigil of battle. Without might traits. Feel free to use any other sigil with sigil of force. Bloodlust, maybe? Sigil of Energy, for far more defense? Maybe Sigil of Hydromancy for some extra burst. Better than sigil of fire, in my opinion.

You might want to consider that after that godly combo, half of your spells are on cooldown and whatever you meant to attack fell asleep.

Frye.4608:

DiogoSilva.7089:

A s/d ele with the new conjure axe will be able to get about 24+ stacks of AOE might without party support.

Dragon’s Tooth (x3) -> Ring of Fire -> Phoenix (x6) -> Arcane Wave (x9) -> Earthquake (x12) -> Earth dodge (x15) -> Churning Earth (x18) -> Axe’s Ring of Fire -> Axe’s second skill (x21) -> Axe’s second skill 5 seconds after, on the RoF if it still exists, or on burning retreat (x24). And 50s of aoe fury, of course (not more because of the upcoming stack duration limit).

Hello, +875 Power and Condition Damage while playing solo. Without sigil of battle. Without might traits. Feel free to use any other sigil with sigil of force. Bloodlust, maybe? Sigil of Energy, for far more defense? Maybe Sigil of Hydromancy for some extra burst. Better than sigil of fire, in my opinion.

You might want to consider that after that godly combo, half of your spells are on cooldown and whatever you meant to attack fell asleep.

And warriors and thieves will still be able to just push 1 button and outdamage you for all the effort you put into doing that and putting every skill you have on a horrendously long cooldown.

If conjures are just getting buffed instead of mechanically changed we should at least be able to just pick up the second one ourselves and double our own personal charges and usage duration. Ideally we could drop them and they’d sit there on the floor like a banner that we could pick back up.

Also, Diogo’s combo isnt that bad since its dealing decent aoe damage and cc while it happens. I personally think its a waste of time and leave the support role to people in boon duration gear/builds. I have not run evasive arcana in a long while and have dust collecting on my old boon gear.

The problem with conjures is that we can’t use our main weapon skills except the attunement swapping which ofcourse obligates us with certain 15 points at least in arcana which kinda reduces the viability of the conjuror build I think conjures must be hosterable, Like it has 2 weapons 1 in hand and 1 on floor and instead of that, since we all hate when some pug gets our weapon, we get 2 charges to holster the weapon and to stay in some sort of stand by or activated state.

Nikkinella.8254:

Frye.4608:

DiogoSilva.7089:

A s/d ele with the new conjure axe will be able to get about 24+ stacks of AOE might without party support.

Dragon’s Tooth (x3) -> Ring of Fire -> Phoenix (x6) -> Arcane Wave (x9) -> Earthquake (x12) -> Earth dodge (x15) -> Churning Earth (x18) -> Axe’s Ring of Fire -> Axe’s second skill (x21) -> Axe’s second skill 5 seconds after, on the RoF if it still exists, or on burning retreat (x24). And 50s of aoe fury, of course (not more because of the upcoming stack duration limit).

Hello, +875 Power and Condition Damage while playing solo. Without sigil of battle. Without might traits. Feel free to use any other sigil with sigil of force. Bloodlust, maybe? Sigil of Energy, for far more defense? Maybe Sigil of Hydromancy for some extra burst. Better than sigil of fire, in my opinion.

You might want to consider that after that godly combo, half of your spells are on cooldown and whatever you meant to attack fell asleep.

And warriors and thieves will still be able to just push 1 button and outdamage you for all the effort you put into doing that and putting every skill you have on a horrendously long cooldown.

LMFAO at both of your comments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Avead.5760

That is so strong compared to every other utility we have.

They’ve gotten to you haven’t they? It may be strong compared to ele utilities but that’s chump change compared to any other class.

Fortus.6175:

Nikkinella.8254:

Frye.4608:

DiogoSilva.7089:

A s/d ele with the new conjure axe will be able to get about 24+ stacks of AOE might without party support.

Dragon’s Tooth (x3) -> Ring of Fire -> Phoenix (x6) -> Arcane Wave (x9) -> Earthquake (x12) -> Earth dodge (x15) -> Churning Earth (x18) -> Axe’s Ring of Fire -> Axe’s second skill (x21) -> Axe’s second skill 5 seconds after, on the RoF if it still exists, or on burning retreat (x24). And 50s of aoe fury, of course (not more because of the upcoming stack duration limit).

Hello, +875 Power and Condition Damage while playing solo. Without sigil of battle. Without might traits. Feel free to use any other sigil with sigil of force. Bloodlust, maybe? Sigil of Energy, for far more defense? Maybe Sigil of Hydromancy for some extra burst. Better than sigil of fire, in my opinion.

You might want to consider that after that godly combo, half of your spells are on cooldown and whatever you meant to attack fell asleep.

And warriors and thieves will still be able to just push 1 button and outdamage you for all the effort you put into doing that and putting every skill you have on a horrendously long cooldown.

LMFAO at both of your comments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1, both comments matches perfectly my opinion. I wonder what’s exactly the reason they are digging Elementalist so deep underground and mostly dodging the real issues of this abandoned class.

Elementalists have the strongest pve auto-attack in the entire game. It outdamages every single other auto-attack and still applies aoe blinds and blast finishers.

Unfortunately, some elementalist players in this forum are unable to be constructive, so instead of discussing any new buffs, they reply with nothing but negativity. It gets tiresome after a while. I know it’s much easier to stay at the confort zone and play the victim card than learning to play a hard-to-master profession. And I know that the elementalist has several design/ balance problems too (btw, it’s not the only profession suffering from that).

I’m not sure if conjure axe’s buffs will make it viable, but they are worth considering. The buffs to other conjures will be harder to predict, in my opinion, until we can test them out.

Well firstly people need to realise how to you use conjures. You most often not supposed to stick with it to use full charges. Use what is necessary and then drop it.

I’ve long time occasionally used Frost bow in wvw guild raids, even in the easy win GvGs. You still use your trusted Blink+Arcaneshield, or mist/armorofearth what ever, but often there is room to innovate in the third one for any spec.
You can mix one in when you think it as a utility replacement, if you know what I mean.
If it’s going easy and enemys are numerous but getting melted get double cantrip and frost bow. If it’s hard, next patch you can even try something as mad as double cantrip + earth shield, think the #4 pull was getting range increase, and #5 is still like a mist form type. Use those couple good skills and drop it, like it was arcane wave or arcane shield.

And not talking about meta changers here…

Condi ele will obviously become a more viable option for wvw fooling around and roaming. You won’t need 30 arcane cos you can fill in the dead gaps between burning and bleeding with conjures.
Dagger/focus, drakes breath → frost bow #5 & #4 → drakes breath → earth shield bleeds stuff like that. Giving the burst bleed stacks 10+ that eles have never had.

30 fire fury blaster gets another reliable blast+fire field with fire axe, if #1 was AoE it would brilliant but I’m not sure if I see room for this, unless just for doing 1-2 blasts.

You can mix in one conjure for any spec. You don’t need the charge increase most often. Thats for PvE LH spammers.

DiogoSilva.7089:

Elementalists have the strongest pve auto-attack in the entire game. It outdamages every single other auto-attack and still applies aoe blinds and blast finishers.

Unfortunately, some elementalist players in this forum are unable to be constructive, so instead of discussing any new buffs, they reply with nothing but negativity. It gets tiresome after a while. I know it’s much easier to stay at the confort zone and play the victim card than learning to play a hard-to-master profession. And I know that the elementalist has several design/ balance problems too (btw, it’s not the only profession suffering from that).

I’m not sure if conjure axe’s buffs will make it viable, but they are worth considering. The buffs to other conjures will be harder to predict, in my opinion, until we can test them out.

I remember you in these forums from around release date…
I refuse to believe that someone that’s played ele since the start and has been visiting these forums for a year, still thinks our ideas, sugestions and complaints about the class are useful in the slightest.
I mean, Anet hasn’t even acknowledged eles have some balancing problems, let alone have a healthy discussion on how to improve it….

The negativity you see here isn’t cuz people are negative… it’s just lost hope.