Guild Wars 2

When i say iam a: Staff Elemental ranged nuker.

“pfff.. wtf.. good luck noob” <<— this is what the common DD user says.
(nice).

And with current traits and skills on staff.
A staff nuker elemental. isnt realy optimal, not even close.

And when i get on forum to get attention from hopefully a designer.
So i can say what i realy think of this weapon type. the staff.

DD users come realy fast to say: “shut up noob, staff is a wvw weapon, its great”.

What are you DD users so afraid of ???

You will still remain the master trollers.

Iam just asking for my staff to have an option so i can choose myself.
Do i want to be a good Ranged nuker. ??
OR.
Do i want to be a good group supporter. ??

I dont like the mess the staff have right now on its random skills thrown in.

I simply want more Order. (just example now).
Fire + Air = ranged nuker elements. single target mainly.
Water + Earth = ranged support elements. AoE mainly.

(I know i once said: Fire + Earth. Water + Air.)
(I have to change that. Fire need Air to combust. better logic.)

But is it realy so bad to ask for this order ?
I dont want changes to your DD. I want changes to the staff.
Give me an option to pick a specialization.
More usefull than just guarding a keep.

I have specialized on my staff, so i dont know much about scepter + focus.
But i hope they make that set better also for the people that want their
Elemental to be a Scepter + focus specialist.

Fire will basicly be the same.
I just want 2 skills Changed/fixed to become a real range nuker option.
*2 I whould like this fix or a new strong direct dmg skill.
*3 Its decent as it is. but i whould like stronger explosion, and lesser dot dmg. (nuker).

For air:
*2 Too long cast.
*5 Change this to stun on placing.

I have toned down my ideas Alot as you can see from my first Fix idea.
Just to keep staff mostly the same for you DD users. (it should actually help you more)

I simply want world peace, an end to world hunger, and a turnaround of the education within the US to stop its decline. That said…

Even though I highly doubt his claims about WoW experience, if he actually is telling the truth, I’d expect that he was complaining about Feral damage in WoTLK – but in bear form – because he wanted to be able to dps as a bear because he didn’t like cat form abilities.

Sarethor.7625:

I simply want world peace, an end to world hunger, and a turnaround of the education within the US to stop its decline. That said…

Even though I highly doubt his claims about WoW experience, if he actually is telling the truth, I’d expect that he was complaining about Feral damage in WoTLK – but in bear form – because he wanted to be able to dps as a bear because he didn’t like cat form abilities.

I was one of the first DKs to 80, and i played on frostmane then.
and played that mainly thru wrath.
(played and raided all other classes before, why DK was more fun and new. and since i was one of the first. was second or third i belive by less than 1 hour. i automatically had a raid spot

If you didnt know. Bears was before a few emergency patches.. totaly insane.
they actually HAD close to cat dps.. in their tank form.
If you played, you whould remember why you saw alot of bears running around all of a sudden in pvp instead of cat.

Even i droped my DK for a moment just to have fun on the druid until the fixes came.

My brother played wow also.
also on frostmane. in Turbo. (was top 10 in the world at the time).
We were also friends with Memento Mori. top 1 guild in the world.
So, yes. i know all there is to know about wow. up to panda.

What I don’t understand is why you keep making posts complaining about the same thing over and over again, then get angry and mad anytime someone has a different opinion that you. If you make a post on a forum, you have to accept varying opinions. What you are doing now is basically just spam.

My biggest suggestion to you, and one I have made several times already is this: Instead of trying to make the staff work the way you want it to and comparing it to other game, learn to use it the way it is as designed in this game. The entire elementalist class itself is designed around switching between damage, support, and cc so you never get stuck doing a single thing. The staff, as a weapon choice, is no different.

To be quite honest with you, it seems like you rolled a class without researching it first and are unhappy with how it plays. Me? I love the flexibility and the ability to adapt easily to any and all situations. Yes I (gasp) use D/D solo or in havoc ….but I also use staff just as much, if not more because it is the more effective weapon in big fights by far.

The answear for everyhing everyone says is from you:
“the designers made it like this, its perfect. shut up and deal with it”.

I see flaws.. and so does many many others.
(including designers, or they whould never have to bend, tweak, nerf ,buff)

So i ask you again.
Is it so bad to ask for options ? and not following orders blindly ?

covenn.7165:

What I don’t understand is why you keep making posts complaining about the same thing over and over again, then get angry and mad anytime someone has a different opinion that you. If you make a post on a forum, you have to accept varying opinions. What you are doing now is basically just spam.

My biggest suggestion to you, and one I have made several times already is this: Instead of trying to make the staff work the way you want it to and comparing it to other game, learn to use it the way it is as designed in this game. The entire elementalist class itself is designed around switching between damage, support, and cc so you never get stuck doing a single thing. The staff, as a weapon choice, is no different.

To be quite honest with you, it seems like you rolled a class without researching it first and are unhappy with how it plays. Me? I love the flexibility and the ability to adapt easily to any and all situations. Yes I (gasp) use D/D solo or in havoc ….but I also use staff just as much, if not more because it is the more effective weapon in big fights by far.

covenn, the only ones I eer see agaisnt the staff being a viable weapon are you and lavadiel, everyone else is aware that staff is in a bad spot, saying otherwise is a lie, i mean, when was the last time you saw someone with staff in 5v5 tPvP and you said “better be careful here”, even then, tell me how many times do you eve see staff players on high lvl sPvP? The only time you ever see a staff user is either WvW sieges or someone trying out staff and failing miserably.

It is a fact, D/D is the prevalent weapon, and not neccesarily by choice. For a caster class who is supposed to “burst foes before they even reach you, with the backflip that they have the lowest stats in the game” we sure lack the offensive skills, which once again, forces us into water/arcana, which….guess again, forces you to eithe rply D/D (because benefices the most out of it) or support staff because you dont have a choice.

Staff is not ok, the day i see people playing staff and D/D equally and people fear me as much as they fear me on D/D it is the day staff will be ok. Staff damage is ok, whats wrong is how unreliabl it is, it literary requieres you to have the enemy AFK in order to land something, a quick fix is increasing projectile’s speed, reduce casting times and delays on skills, instant AOE damage, remove the self-root on water#5 and fire #5 and increase hitting box for air #3. At leas 70% of those things have to happen, otherwise that weapon will remain useless outside WVW raids.

Just to make it clear.
OP complains about staff while using only one attunement – fire. Mostly spamming #1 skill. Yet, he is surprised how easy he gets himself killed and that he can’t kill anyone neither provide any group support.
Ah, yeah, probably he is on zerker set (I suppose so from one of his posts).

Lert.6287:

Just to make it clear.
OP complains about staff while using only one attunement – fire. Mostly spamming #1 skill. Yet, he is surprised how easy he gets himself killed and that he can’t kill anyone neither provide any group support.
Ah, yeah, probably he is on zerker set (I suppose so from one of his posts).

Im sorry, i read that and reread yet I cant find him saying that anywhere. Anyways, right now fire is the hardest hitting tree, getting out of it gimps you for about 15/12/9 seconds if you are no triated for it, and right now those traits kinda suck. Everyone know eles have to switch elements, those who dont are amateurs indeed, but it sure would be nice to have some of the fire damage evenly distributed among other elements, getting out of fire ensures you wont be doing much anything other than running/CC/surviving until fire is up again.

Fixes? Decrease attunement recharge (wont happen, it is the weakness of our class, one of manys) so, another good one; traiting into one skill tree reduces the rechage time of that particular element. There, I just fixed part of the isue of being forced into arcana, next step is making blasting staff (arcana VIII) the baseline AoE diameter.

He has Said it himself a few times though, somewhere in the other threads.

There’s already something that decreases attunement recharge, but wait… how was it called? Azina? Arwena? Archana? Ah! Arcana! That’s it!

Some on you asked why people don’t use staff on tPvP – same reason why good guardian wont use scepter or warrior bow or riftle. There are better weapon choices. And tPvP is rather strickt melee area (no brainless spamming one skill and getting away with it like on zerg fights). And we all can agree D/D or S/D does way better on low players melee fights than staff. On the other hand staff is better on huge fights, certain places (tunel, bridge) or anyway around towers/castles (either if you deff or attack).

As paleeshi said. OP said that himself in other words and in other thread. Neither he ever said ’’I’m zerker ele using only one skill – why no kill, why no kill?‘’. Just scroll your friend’s post history and see that for your own, mate.

And finally, some of you might wonder why I’m rather against these stupid huge staff boosts which won’t ever happen (cmon, we all know that). It’s because elementalist is strong itself and it makes me want to cry that people being in good position demand for more. There are other PROFFESSIONS (not only weapon sets) in need. For me, biggest cry for help, is ranger, then necro. Ele’s ability is far beyound they could ever get close to.

eldain stenlund.4306:

The answear for everyhing everyone says is from you:
“the designers made it like this, its perfect. shut up and deal with it”.

I see flaws.. and so does many many others.
(including designers, or they whould never have to bend, tweak, nerf ,buff)

• answer

• so do

:p

Fortus.6175:

covenn.7165:

What I don’t understand is why you keep making posts complaining about the same thing over and over again, then get angry and mad anytime someone has a different opinion that you. If you make a post on a forum, you have to accept varying opinions. What you are doing now is basically just spam.

My biggest suggestion to you, and one I have made several times already is this: Instead of trying to make the staff work the way *you* want it to and comparing it to other game, learn to use it the way it is as designed in this game. The entire elementalist class itself is designed around switching between damage, support, and cc so you never get stuck doing a single thing. The staff, as a weapon choice, is no different.

To be quite honest with you, it seems like you rolled a class without researching it first and are unhappy with how it plays. Me? I love the flexibility and the ability to adapt easily to any and all situations. Yes I (*gasp*) use D/D solo or in havoc ....but I also use staff just as much, if not more because it is the more effective weapon in big fights by far.

covenn, the only ones I eer see agaisnt the staff being a viable weapon are you and lavadiel, everyone else is aware that staff is in a bad spot, saying otherwise is a lie, i mean, when was the last time you saw someone with staff in 5v5 tPvP and you said "better be careful here", even then, tell me how many times do you eve see staff players on high lvl sPvP? The only time you ever see a staff user is either WvW sieges or someone trying out staff and failing miserably.

It is a fact, D/D is the prevalent weapon, and not neccesarily by choice. For a caster class who is supposed to "burst foes before they even reach you, with the backflip that they have the lowest stats in the game" we sure lack the offensive skills, which once again, forces us into water/arcana, which....guess again, forces you to eithe rply D/D (because benefices the most out of it) or support staff because you dont have a choice.

Staff is not ok, the day i see people playing staff and D/D equally and people fear me as much as they fear me on D/D it is the day staff will be ok. Staff damage is ok, whats wrong is how unreliabl it is, it literary requieres you to have the enemy AFK in order to land something, a quick fix is increasing projectile’s speed, reduce casting times and delays on skills, instant AOE damage, remove the self-root on water#5 and fire #5 and increase hitting box for air #3. At leas 70% of those things have to happen, otherwise that weapon will remain useless outside WVW raids.

How many time must people repeat that every weapon has its place. Just becauae its less suitable in spvp, does it make it bad weapon? No, just not the right one for the job. You also seem to forget that almost every class has one- two meta builds in spvp. Does it make everything else not viable outside that zone? Hardly.

Also nobody is saying that staff shouldnt be improved. What people are saying is that its not as bad as OP and other people claim it to be

Options ppl. options. thats what we want.

And yes, iam gathering zerker gear on my elemental.
It is after all the only way to get some range dmg.
have armor fixed. working on rings etc.

you have so short cd on fire skills you cant affford to swap to a 50 % lower element.
i have 4.5 sec cd on my lava font. (crap skill). but its so short i can atleast use it all over the place and hopefully get a tick here and there.

i only switch to get away.
anything else is too low dmg to even consider.

I think i finally found why you DD players are so scared of staff getting options.

Perhaps they make so staff can troll groups to boredome also.
“HERETIC, only DD should be allowed to do that” <—— i said it for you.

But you can relax. I dont want a troll weapon. I already have DD if i want such.
all i want is specialization Options for staff.

(iam gonna copy this reply this below to everything else here after).
Options baby… options… thats all I want and many more with me.
Let me choose.
*Ranged nuker
OR
*Support/AoE.

eldain stenlund.4306:

Options ppl. options. thats what we want.

And yes, iam gathering zerker gear on my elemental.
It is after all the only way to get some range dmg.
have armor fixed. working on rings etc.

you have so short cd on fire skills you cant affford to swap to a 50 % lower element.
i have 4.5 sec cd on my lava font. (crap skill). but its so short i can atleast use it all over the place and hopefully get a tick here and there.

i only switch to get away.
anything else is too low dmg to even consider.

I’m sensing a conflict here. Just because an attunement does less DPS than fire, you’ve labeled it “50% less attunement”, which I’m assuming means “50% less effective.”

You’re saying you want more options but all you want to do is put out DPS. What scenario are you considering where having pure DPS serves better than: DPS, CC, heal, combo fields, area buffs?

If you think you’re going to get a weapon that allows you to stand on a ledge and burst down 5 players on a point in the same amount of time it takes a thief to burst down one player, you’re mistaken. Bad players could could be overpowered with such a weapon, and good players would break the game.

I agree with you that staff is far from perfect, but the mechanic for switching through attunements is hurting you far more than staff. You won’t go out of fire because you don’t want to lock yourself out of your most damaging attunement. Understandable. However, imagine how much easier it would be for you to land your own DPS if you could swap between fire and all of the other attunements free of cooldown. Not to mention all of the ways that you could support your team (CC/combo fields/area buffs) while swapping right back to fire/1v1 utility instantly.

As someone said, it’s hard to believe we wrote more than simple ’’L2P’’.

eldain stenlund.4306:

I think i finally found why you DD players are so scared of staff getting options.

Perhaps they make so staff can troll groups to boredome also.
“HERETIC, only DD should be allowed to do that” <—— i said it for you.

When you start seeing and reading things as a conspiracy… That should be your wake up call.

There are plenty of staff eles in wvw. Staff ele is more useful in teamfights than dd ele anyways.

Zenith.7301:

staff wvw

here we go again…………………

i dont understand what the topic creator is saying

as far as i can tell, most people playing ele see D/D as the best weapon set, they also see this as a considerable issue

the people who dont are probably bandwagon hoppers or stupid
i dont see why people would be afraid but i do see why people would be worried with D/D nerf threats, as its the ONLY competitive weapon set, as well as the most widely used one (even in non competitive play) and nerfing it would most likely cause more issues then resolve

i’ll tell you easy:
D/D ele cannot kill ANY tank profession….
D/D ele has many issues against popular mesmer builds and Engineers.

Basically
Guardian
Tank warrior
ANY of current engineer builds
Most mesmer builds
Many Necro build

In www you have issues people continue to scream L2p then after almost a month people start noticing there are infact 2 OP builds that make D/D unviable……
Seems crowd is sesinsible to fotm rather than discussions…..
(best thing is whatever you write someone will Always answer “l2P”).

After all if you start to analyze matchups you have quite a lot of countebuilds….
The issue is you are strong against the overpopular thief 2 buttons ….they are a lot and complain a lot on forum.

Staff is plain bad atm, mostly due to skill lag making it unviable in his best situation (you can t swap attunements nor use 3-4-5 skills or healing) but mostly to the fact necro and mesmers are the best aoe profession for www with a HUGE margin…..while being able to skirmish.

Options baby… options… thats all I want and many more with me.
Let me choose.
*Ranged nuker
OR.
*Support/AoE.

I don’t have a lot of expereince in gw2 in general since i play only 2 weeks.But have researched quite a bit before choosing my profession as an elementalist.
I mostly play D/D (still leveling to 80) because i love the gameplay of a melee mage.On the story mode dungeons i’ve tried and some wvwvw i entered staff goes infront by far.
I’m ok with that specialization of weapon sets but imo staff feels a bit stiffy and it doesn’t gain much by attunement jugling as D/D or even kitten D-F.
Also what i don’t like is that while on staff i feel forced to do 30 arcana for increased staff aoe.
I’m sure that when i reach the end i will probably change the way i see things but that’s my 2 cents for now.

eldain stenlund.4306:

Options baby… options… thats all I want and many more with me.
Let me choose.
*Ranged nuker
OR.
*Support/AoE.

Your posts are rather humorous because it’s pretty obvious that you have NO idea how to play this class.

We are not either ranged nukers OR support/AoE, we are BOTH at the same time. You keep complaining about options when you need to learn to adapt to balance.

skinnyb.5920:

eldain stenlund.4306:

Options baby… options… thats all I want and many more with me.
Let me choose.
*Ranged nuker
OR.
*Support/AoE.

Your posts are rather humorous because it’s pretty obvious that you have NO idea how to play this class.

We are not either ranged nukers OR support/AoE, we are BOTH at the same time. You keep complaining about options when you need to learn to adapt to balance.

EXACTLY my point.
we are both at same time. wich by balance default.. have to have lower dmg overall.
Give me my option to specialize in what i want.
Myself i gladly reduce my AoE capacity. For a stronger Range single target nuker set.

If you Like AoE set. just specialize in it.

Iam trying to make the game more open.. and free minded with more options for everyone using the staff. Inluding yourself.

Do those of you people who hammer me down constantly.
(when iam trying to make the game more open and free, more versatile).
Do you live in north korea or something ??.
You just obay what ever is said.

If you do live in North korea.. i realy feel sorry for you. honestly.
Police states Sucks.

eldain stenlund.4306:

skinnyb.5920:

eldain stenlund.4306:

Options baby… options… thats all I want and many more with me.
Let me choose.
*Ranged nuker
OR.
*Support/AoE.

Your posts are rather humorous because it’s pretty obvious that you have NO idea how to play this class.

We are not either ranged nukers OR support/AoE, we are BOTH at the same time. You keep complaining about options when you need to learn to adapt to balance.

EXACTLY my point.
we are both at same time. wich by balance default.. have to have lower dmg overall.
Give me my option to specialize in what i want.
Myself i gladly reduce my AoE capacity. For a stronger Range single target nuker set.

If you Like AoE set. just specialize in it.

Iam trying to make the game more open.. and free minded with more options for everyone using the staff. Inluding yourself.

Do those of you people who hammer me down constantly.
(when iam trying to make the game more open and free, more versatile).
Do you live in north korea or something ??.
You just obay what ever is said.

If you do like in North korea.. i realy feel sorry for you. honestly.
Police states Sucks.

If you want high single target damage, play a rifle warrior.

Dude, you use one attunement! Don’t be surprised that your damage is small and you got no support options. You’re as well zerker-ele (which is WASTE).
You want options? Well, L2P and find them for your own.
Every weapon set has it’s place, there’s no ultimate magic weapon set being best everywhere.

Fortus.6175:

covenn, the only ones I eer see agaisnt the staff being a viable weapon are you and lavadiel, everyone else is aware that staff is in a bad spot, saying otherwise is a lie, i mean, when was the last time you saw someone with staff in 5v5 tPvP and you said “better be careful here”, even then, tell me how many times do you eve see staff players on high lvl sPvP? The only time you ever see a staff user is either WvW sieges or someone trying out staff and failing miserably.

I would use d/d in a 5v5. I have said that repeatedly.

The staff isn’t viable for small man. I have said that repeatedly as well.

What I said, again repeatedly, is that the staff is more than viable in large fights. In fact, it is the weapon of choice because it performs the best in those situations.

I have also said repeatedly that the staff could still use some very minor tweaks (like projectile speed and/or damage fields hitting on the first tick).

So, I guess I don’t understand your post and why you made it.

eldain stenlund.4306:

Options ppl. options. thats what we want.

And yes, iam gathering zerker gear on my elemental.
It is after all the only way to get some range dmg.
have armor fixed. working on rings etc.

you have so short cd on fire skills you cant affford to swap to a 50 % lower element.
i have 4.5 sec cd on my lava font. (crap skill). but its so short i can atleast use it all over the place and hopefully get a tick here and there.

i only switch to get away.
anything else is too low dmg to even consider.

You play in one attunement only, perform like crap, come on the forums whine about how crappy the class, and then ask the devs to redesign the entire class for you because you refuse to learn how to play it properly.

I hate to break it to you, but you don’t do the most damage by spamming fire abilities. Not even remotely close. Rather than taking people’s advice, you complain. Rather than learn how to play that class as it is designed, you want the devs to redesign it.

You think running around in zerker gear is going to let you do damage, when the only thing it is going to do is cause you to get killed easily and repeatedly. Then you are going to come on the forums and whine about how squishy your ele is and whine about thieves 1-2 shotting you while you spam fireballs at them.

Seriously, are you just trolling? For the life of me I can’t figure out how there could possibly be such a perfect storm of incompetence and stubbornness in one person.

If you want to do more meaningful damage, then you need to learn to switch attunements and what abilities to use when to spike damage. I am always going to vastly out damage you in full power/vitality/toughness gear even when you run full zerker if all you do is spam fire abilities. Not only that, I will be able to do that damage for a vastly longer period of time because I will still be alive and not lying on the ground dead as you will be after getting 2 shot.

eldain stenlund.4306:

EXACTLY my point.
we are both at same time. wich by balance default.. have to have lower dmg overall.
Give me my option to specialize in what i want.
Myself i gladly reduce my AoE capacity. For a stronger Range single target nuker set.

You are playing the wrong class. Elementalists were not designed to be single target ranged nukers.

You won’t change attunement to maximize your damage, you want to hit one person hard, and you want to switch weapons in combat. Reroll a rifle warrior, because you picked the wrong class to play.

Then you can have a simple class where all you have to do is worry about 5 buttons to spam, that hits single targets hard from range. Then you can stop crying every 5 minutes on the forum because you made the mistake of choosing the wrong class to play.

I have to admit that I’m one of those D/D players that actually REALLY likes the style. I gave up my Mesmer once I got hooked on the Ele.

However, I was running around last night trying to complete some world events and a “staff” ele showed up to help. Though I’ll never complain about the assistance, he stood around the entire time in fire casting the #1 skill. He did NOTHING else the entire time.

If my toon could do a facepalm, I think she would have.

Lert.6287:

Dude, you use one attunement! Don’t be surprised that your damage is small and you got no support options. You’re as well zerker-ele (which is WASTE).
You want options? Well, L2P and find them for your own.
Every weapon set has it’s place, there’s no ultimate magic weapon set being best everywhere.

How is zerker ele a waste? (in pve). Last time I played pve, your objective was simple, to kill enemy.

I’m sorry, when did I mention something about PvE?
Is there any PvE version of WvW where zerg fights appear and NPC Thief can one shot you down?

I don’t really care about PvE – REALLY. Probably the higher damage, the better since 99% of the times there is not a single problem staying alive no matter proffession.

For WvW zerker ele is simply waste. Damage won’t be nowhere close to mesmer or thief and survivability will be much, much lower. Plus re-count stats yourself. Each critical damage on armor takes around 14-16 stats which could be spend in more reasonable way.

Not sure if this is wise but for WvW, I tend to put most of my stats towards vitality and toughness with power being the third. My focus is on survivability and trying to support the group.

I used to play a Mesmer but just got bored with the class. They are very effective in WvW but it’s just not as fun as my Ele.

I’m curious then, what are the non-wasted stats in zvz where you run with zergs most of the time? Whenever I roam I use my pve build because most occupants of zvz have similiar skill level to mobs in pve (they even zerg in similiar fashion).

For pvp meta is valk+zerk for roamer.

covenn.7165:

For the life of me I can’t figure out how there could possibly be such a perfect storm of incompetence and stubbornness in one person.

haha. ^this is awesome

Like all of OPs threads, he’s really just whining about staff again. I just wanted to point out the notion of a “D/D ele.” D/D is a powerful weapon set, but if you are strictly a D/D ele you are wasting a ton of potential by not using your other weapon sets.

I tend to run around with staff most of the time, since about 60% of my time is spent traversing great distances in WvW so i’m constantly refreshing swiftness. But do i consider myself a staff ele? No, because different weapon choices excel for different situations.

If i’m anticipating taking a lot of dmg and want to play it safe, then s/f is going to be my choice. If i want to do a lot of dmg but avoid melee range i’ll do s/d. If i want to go all out dmg and increased mobility i’ll do d/d. And if i want to stack swiftness/support the group/AoE/dps from a safe distance, then it’ll be staff. You’re doing yourself a disservice by picking one weapon and sticking to it.

haviz.1340:

I’m curious then, what are the non-wasted stats in zvz where you run with zergs most of the time? Whenever I roam I use my pve build because most occupants of zvz have similiar skill level to mobs in pve (they even zerg in similiar fashion).

For pvp meta is valk+zerk for roamer.

Not all of us are zergers like you.
Personally I hate zerging and never participate in fights like this.
But when I run alone and see some zerg group and some incompetent ele (or any other class) sure I will give it a try going on him.

I also regret wasting what little time I did even commenting on his threads as he’s clearly beyond gaining any perspective.

Geez, you people sure get mad over someone wanting better ranged options.

Chaosky.5276:

Geez, you people sure get mad over someone wanting better ranged options.

There is a difference between asking for reasonable changes and asking for a complete weapon redesign because you don’t understand the mechanics.

I’m not going to say staff is perfect but the changes OP has been advocating are not only outrageous but are based on a narrow perspective of how the game mechanics work and how the class is played.

If you want to solo/roam, then you use D/D, because it lets you charge in and then escape if it goes bad.

If you want to play a group support/ranged class you use a staff.

Both are good, both are viable. One is better for Spvp, one is better for WvW zerging.

I see no problems with either one.

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I think D/D ele’s hate Staff users because 90% of the time in a small group pvp scenario the D/D’s side will win, but add just one staff ele into the mix and the D/D will be forced to run or die.

Roots, reflective shields, chills, stuns, and all that healing… it’s a D/D’s worst nightmare.

Lert.6287:

Not all of us are zergers like you.
Personally I hate zerging and never participate in fights like this.
But when I run alone and see some zerg group and some incompetent ele (or any other class) sure I will give it a try going on him.

I’ve said “roam”. I can’t zerg, my pc can’t handle its awesomeness.

Sarethor.7625:

I also regret wasting what little time I did even commenting on his threads as he’s clearly beyond gaining any perspective.

Iam beyond perspective ?

Its funny how the same people keep complaining on me. (now ignored).
When iam trying/wanting to Actually Improve The staff for all of us.
(yes, you included).

I simply want choises on classes.
but you seem to be as as mindless as WoW designer was in vanila.
Paladin = Heal/buff bot.. anything else was forbidden, it didnt fit their “design”.
Untill some players went the hard way, gearing dmg. and doing it decently.

Those designers saw their own flaw, and changed it to the paladin you have today in wow. a Versatile class. with your own choise open.
Healer ? Tank ? Dps ?

The same story for the druid class. Shadow priest. Shaman and more.
Myself, I played shadow priest in vanila mainly, it was a hardcore struggle also,
BUT, me, and many with me.. kept playing shadow and only having our healing as support in emergencys… Abit later., Shadow priests are consider a realy legitimate Dps choise. But, they still have the CHOISE to specc into more healing or shield support if the player wanted.

WoW designers saw people wanted choises. and gave them that.
Result = Best MMO created.. even untill today.

Now, i dont think the A-net designers are as mindless as you are who just keep complaining on me when i actually try/want to improve the game. (for everyone)

Things will change in time.
(they have to, if they want to gain more players, and a good designer knows this).

(i will ignore people who only want to complain on me from now on).

Ezeriel.9574:

If you want to solo/roam, then you use D/D, because it lets you charge in and then escape if it goes bad.

If you want to play a group support/ranged class you use a staff.

Both are good, both are viable. One is better for Spvp, one is better for WvW zerging.

I see no problems with either one.

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I think D/D ele’s hate Staff users because 90% of the time in a small group pvp scenario the D/D’s side will win, but add just one staff ele into the mix and the D/D will be forced to run or die.

Roots, reflective shields, chills, stuns, and all that healing… it’s a D/D’s worst nightmare.

You sure you play DnD? Or are u trying to make the OP feel good?

Staff were designed for 3 thongs, and 3 things only; keep attack,defence and zerg warfare with their combo fields and static/etc.

Scrambles.2604:

Chaosky.5276:

Geez, you people sure get mad over someone wanting better ranged options.

There is a difference between asking for reasonable changes and asking for a complete weapon redesign because you don’t understand the mechanics.

I’m not going to say staff is perfect but the changes OP has been advocating are not only outrageous but are based on a narrow perspective of how the game mechanics work and how the class is played.

I’m not saying they’re good ideas, but the general reaction in this thread seems to be, “Shut up nub, if you wanna 1v1 play d/d or play another class.”
Y’all could direct the OP to work on the scepter, or even suggest traits that modify the staff to be more focused on single-target damage.

Scrambles.2604:

Chaosky.5276:

Geez, you people sure get mad over someone wanting better ranged options.

There is a difference between asking for reasonable changes and asking for a complete weapon redesign because you don’t understand the mechanics.

I’m not going to say staff is perfect but the changes OP has been advocating are not only outrageous but are based on a narrow perspective of how the game mechanics work and how the class is played.

This Chaodsky, exactly this. I think most of us agree that staff could use some tweaks, but the OP asking to redesign how both a class and a weapon works because he refuses to switch elements and learn how to play effectively is the problem.

Chaosky.5276:

I’m not saying they’re good ideas, but the general reaction in this thread seems to be, “Shut up nub, if you wanna 1v1 play d/d or play another class.”
Y’all could direct the OP to work on the scepter, or even suggest traits that modify the staff to be more focused on single-target damage.

You really aren’t seeing everything that is going on if this is your comment.

First you have to understand that this poster has been spamming this in numerous topics and people began with civility when responding. He initial response to this civility was namely aggressiveness and name calling. Then he followed it up by admitting that he doesn’t even play the class correctly with how it was designed.

Hopefully that clears it up for you, because I am not so sure why you are blindly defending him.

Fuzzion.2504

Staff were designed for 3 thongs

It certainly feels like the only thing you’re wearing when using a staff, and you need the extra 2 pairs when you crap yourself after a thief jumps you :p

Fuzzion.2504:

You sure you play DnD? Or are u trying to make the OP feel good?

Staff were designed for 3 thongs, and 3 things only; keep attack,defence and zerg warfare with their combo fields and static/etc.

Pretty much. That is why most of us change weapons depending on what we are doing.

Cirax.9231:

Fuzzion.2504

Staff were designed for 3 thongs

It certainly feels like the only thing you’re wearing when using a staff, and you need the extra 2 pairs when you crap yourself after a thief jumps you :p

LOL. I just noticed the typo.

Yeah staff is brutal if you run around alone with one. Though, even if I do, you can still generally get away if geared, slotted, and traited correctly …well providing an safety zone is in reasonable distance, like a tower, keep, or friendly zerg

I guess it is fair trade off because they don’t stand a chance against me when I have daggers out, and they always end up running away)