Guild Wars 2

Hi

i used the searchfunction but didnt find any answer.

In WvW, good thiefs get invisible before u even know they are there.

Suddenly ur dead within a secound, thats really annoying.

so is there a way to counter those backstab thiefs real quick, with decend reaction ?
Because I feel like its 1sec and Im dead.

I know aoe is good against thiefs, but if i dont know theyr there ….

thanks to all for ur help

Things that help:

Passive auras. (air (best) and water have it)
Stone heart in earth.

But nothing will save you against a good thief if you don´t react fast and usually disengage for healing.
I swap to earth running stone heart and fire my focus 4 (magnetic wave). Then it depends how hard the hit was and i better fight or run/teleport.
Good thiefs usually get me around the fourth attempt if i don´t run (they cloak, attack, cloak ). Bad thiefs die on the second of even first try.

okay thanks man, so it is a survive the first hit and react fast kinda thing ?

okay to sum this up

if i level my ele to 80 and have full exotics burst build , will i have a chance against
a thief lvl 80 full exotics ? or am I like instantly death ?

thanks

lordofmagic.9152:

okay to sum this up

if i level my ele to 80 and have full exotics burst build , will i have a chance against
a thief lvl 80 full exotics ? or am I like instantly death ?

thanks

At equal skill level?….you’re insta dead as burst ele vs burst thief in WvW

If you are a burst build, you basically MUST play S/F with arcane shield and lightning flash + utility of choice (I suggest mistform). I would also recommend either vamp. runes or the auto-arcane shield proc.

You kill thieves by surviving their initial burst with just enough health to counter-burst. When you see a thief, keep a finger on your phoenix, lightning flash, air-swap procs to counter-burst HARD upon being hit. If they open with basi-venom, you HAVE to stunbreak or invuln immediately. If you aren’t able to attack with a counter-burst, then you try to heal as much as possible but still get ready for burst.

Regardless, thief has a major advantage vs. you. Your only chance is really if they aren’t patient enough and eat a burst in the face (which is their fault, b/c you can’t do it from stealth).

oh kitten … i want to level a char but i cant decide. I just dont have the full gear, experience and i heard that classes really show there potential after lvl 80 and gearing

so can u please help me a little and kindly give me some advice ?

basicly I wanna have fun, easy going/little bit of difficulty but not too much in pve and dungeons ele is just right in terms of that

after I did my pve and i farmed a lot of events and stuff, i wanna get good gear and go WvW

WvW im not experienced at all, so that where i really need ur help
(its either war, ele or thief)

dungeons/pve –
Warrior and ele win for me, because of high burst, aoe, soloing/farming
i heard thief is just very very hard, i like evading, evading is fun, but if im new to a dungeon i want to be able to learn by doing and not die by doing. so it should be a forgiving class im playing, and i feel warrior comes first but i like ranged boss fights so ele seems to be the best for me in dungeons and pve

WvW – i like mobility and wanna have an answer to every class

1. mobility wise
prefer the ele moblity …

2. answer to every class wise
thief – can stealth, backstab, runaway – it works but
-is there a healthpool which u cant burst? because after the burst an ele would just spam aoe and from that point it becomes very difficult as thief
-besides its borring to hit single targets and run away all the time !

ele – i like it just sooo much , buttonpressing whirling arround, heal up again, beeing in the middle of the fight
-but it sometimes takes long time to get people down, i miss the big damage sometimes (or am i wrong and just watching the wrong videos?)
-feel like ele are to mobile to be beaten up by warriors, even if they stun u
ele has mistform and arcane shield
-but against thief im not sure, if i have a high healthpool, will i be able to survive the first thief burst and burst them back? will arcane shield triggered when 25% health rescue me? because if so everything is cool and im gonna go with ele

warrior – I love the look of it, i love the hammer smashing and the greatsword,
but i feel that it can be dogged quite easily, so if i were an ele or thief, i would dodge and then burst while he is on cooldown ( am i right?))

thanks to everybody reading this long story

Thief is not your main problem in wvw, there are: mesmer who burst 2-3x harder and have more access to stealth, more sustain than thieves ; warrior axe/shield/gs with double endure pain, block, huge heal for second with food buffs, signet/power necro.

As I have said at equal skill level as burst ele in wvw..you don’t stand a chance…oh and I forget very rare remorseless cavalier rangers GS mele tanks burst = 2600 toughness and 2 hit KO burst chain with pets and stuns.

Scepter has extremely low sustain damage and as burst class you need sustain damage to keep up pressure between spikes downtimes , without it…your enemy will outsustain you np

You will never have an answer to every class, wvw has 3x the amount of builds respect to pvp +foods and buffs. For mobility you’re on the right track but if you want to kill people fast….ele not the answer

what will my chances be with survivalbuilt and sustained damage against burst thievs?

can this trait help me every 75 seconds ?
so i can burst them ?

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Final_Shielding

Ele is great, and yes final shielding helps a bit. The thief might cloak an kill you 3 seconds later XD…

I have very good experience with stone heart + elemental contingency. When he strikes it´s like he hits a wall. An E/W/Ar ele will survive. I did run F/E/Ar (S/F) very long and had arcane shield, air signet and cleansing flame + arcane brilliance on my toolbar. Even without water the thiefs got wide eyes. My counter did hurt. I did not run ;-). I also had about 3k exta HP on my gear running with 15k and high toughness.
In zerker gear you have a hard time. He will kill you unless you react perfect in milliseconds …
But this build has other weaknesses. Condi mesmers and necros kill me.

Okay coool thank u guys so much, so if im gonna max my ele, and wanna sustain in fights, ill be forced to play survival build thats good to know

im glad i asked u guys, because seeing some ele burst videos u only see the ownage of that person, but not the times he got owned because of his squishiness

thx again

you realize exotic gear is fine right? Like you don’t need ascended, especially armor. You won’t even notice the difference in asc armor (weapon maybe, trinkets maybe but its such a small %)

If you feel underpowered with exo then ya…