Guild Wars 2

There is no doubt there is some dirty stinking elementalist out there who slept with the wife of an anet founder. There is no other excuse for all of the constant nerfs. Don’t make the rest of us continue to suffer for it! Come forward now and admit it you dirty dog!!!

I even went back and checked.

I see no nerfs.

Stop your whining.

1. What ’’nerfs’’? Isn’t that a bit soon? I for one love to make builds, I can see a lot of potential in staff support and scepter/dagger conjure burst builds. Still puzzling here.

2. Insulting people who make the game does not get you anywhere just as in real life.

3. Close this thread please.

Edit 4. If I see more toxic comments/ discussions I think I might be better of just leaving the forums for a while. Yes you can be critical about the balance patch but base it on constructive reasoning.

EDIT: (i didn t read the insults….well i ll leave this for information because the post was unclear)

Supposed nerfs:

•Stun breakers will now break launch effects (this is a huge hit to X/D).
•AoE spells with a maximum number of targets will now count combatants that block or evade the attack towards that maximum.

Also (didn t test myself)

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Stealth-nerf-to-arcane-blast-and-arcane-wave

All this time i thought that Anets reasoning was like: ok so if you bring down the fotms just a tad the elementalist will be in a great spot!

And yet all the fotms got buffed? Power engii just exploded, wich i like but still..
Spirit Ranger is much better now with extra second of protection on every dodge wich is a HUGE deal.. also they got improved condi removal with the heal
No nerf to necro terror wich was fotm…..
warrior got a bugfix for the stunlock.. wich is good but the fotm was hammer/longbow wich got a nice buff too compensate so they stay the same…

Soo just what happened??? the conjures and staff is all nice but they will never make it too meta… they will never make it al all in spvp! they are nice for wvw prehaps and pve but that is it!

It is just soo strange that a balance patch with pvp focus didnt include dagger septer or focus, when those are the weapons people want too be viable!

I just don’t understand at all, why? Can it be so that Anet honestly thinks that S/D D/D S/F D/F if all viable in Tpvp? this cannot possibly be right?

and wee dont want too be kitten OP as before! i HATED the gad dammn bunker survival ele! just some minor buffs that are UTILITY .. I don’t know.. just wish Anet would post their thoughts and plans for ele. I’d really like to hear their reasoning

LordByron.8369:

EDIT: (i didn t read the insults….well i ll leave this for information because the post was unclear)

Supposed nerfs:

•Stun breakers will now break launch effects (this is a huge hit to X/D).
•AoE spells with a maximum number of targets will now count combatants that block or evade the attack towards that maximum.

Also (didn t test myself)

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Stealth-nerf-to-arcane-blast-and-arcane-wave

TY

Can you explain what launch effects are? Is it like knockdown effects?

About the AoE, its a paradox, yes a max of targets is a nerf, however the impact radius of several skills is increased. So its a buff and nerf at the same time. I for one don’t mind because I am not farming blobs in WvW so for PvE and sPvP in general AoE is buffed.

Arcane wave and blast, I don’t know if its true but you should not make a huge deal about it. The skills are most useful in a fire or water or electric field. ( At least in my opinion)

Nobody did it. Johnathan Sharp struggles beating staff eles, so they’re clearly OP.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/We-knew-Warriors-would-end-up-this-way/first#post3031584

JonathanSharp.7094:

That’s why we want to see what today’s improvements do to the game, especially to support meta. I ran into a VERY strong staff Elementalist earlier on live, and was excited to see it when I did.

Ele nerfs imminent.

Caffynated.5713:

Nobody did it. Johnathan Sharp struggles beating staff eles, so they’re clearly OP.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/We-knew-Warriors-would-end-up-this-way/first#post3031584

JonathanSharp.7094:

That’s why we want to see what today’s improvements do to the game, especially to support meta. I ran into a VERY strong staff Elementalist earlier on live, and was excited to see it when I did.

Ele nerfs imminent.

Hilarious ^^

Caffynated.5713:

Nobody did it. Johnathan Sharp struggles beating staff eles, so they’re clearly OP.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/We-knew-Warriors-would-end-up-this-way/first#post3031584

JonathanSharp.7094:

That’s why we want to see what today’s improvements do to the game, especially to support meta. I ran into a VERY strong staff Elementalist earlier on live, and was excited to see it when I did.

Ele nerfs imminent.

Oh god that’s freaking priceless.
Maybe he shouldn’t stand still on lava fonts?

You guys… ARM posted this thread. Just move on…

Wiz.1543:

TY

Can you explain what launch effects are? Is it like knockdown effects?

A launch is when you Launch a target in the air…like dagger AIR5 does.
Before patch you couldn t do anything until you touched the ground…when you could use a breakstun.

About the AoE, its a paradox, yes a max of targets is a nerf, however the impact radius of several skills is increased. So its a buff and nerf at the same time. I for one don’t mind because I am not farming blobs in WvW so for PvE and sPvP in general AoE is buffed.

I forgot to mention evasive arcana nerfs…

BTW D/D is again being nerfed that is the point….even after disappearing from the game.

This pattern was reserved once to staff…its so useless because was nerfed as D/D is being nerfed.

Staff suffered NERF as harsh as D/D….when something is nerfed by 50% its a clear mistake by devs…

Ele from release date is getting 150-200% nerfs on many skills that just tells a lot.

Arcane wave and blast, I don’t know if its true but you should not make a huge deal about it. The skills are most useful in a fire or water or electric field. ( At least in my opinion)

They are part of the only viable (even if weak) ele burst for pvp and www.
Consider it as a nerf to scepter/X fresh air build.

I suggest people to quit ele already as i did months ago…..its clear that (without ANY personal attack) balancing team is extremely biased.

Ele got nerfed even when was a free kill everywhere…..and get random buffs intended to serve as excuses.

When someone is able to make them viable, the weaponset is “whack a moled” and removed from the game…..with some random buffs on another weaponset.

Old time elementalist players will remember it and see the pattern:
Scepter=> Staff=> D/D =>Scepter => conjured……

We already know firey GS will get nerfs (see Izzy’s post on unintended mobility from FGS that will be changed)….and its eve more clear when you look at mobility buffs that are clearly the “random buff” as an excuse….

Just choose another profession and just stop fearing updates…even playing a mesmer i never had a so bad time when reading patchnotes.

Caffynated.5713:

Nobody did it. Johnathan Sharp struggles beating staff eles, so they’re clearly OP.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/We-knew-Warriors-would-end-up-this-way/first#post3031584

JonathanSharp.7094:

That’s why we want to see what today’s improvements do to the game, especially to support meta. I ran into a VERY strong staff Elementalist earlier on live, and was excited to see it when I did.

Ele nerfs imminent.

I read that and at first I wanted to get really really mad, but oddly found myself numb, then I realize it was because I am almost at the last stage for grief, acceptance. Acceptance that the ele wont get fixed, acceptance that the balance team don’t have a clue and acceptance that I might actually like playing a warrior despite it being extremely banal.

I solo’ed Jon Sharp’s shout-stunlock warrior on my condition staff 30-earth elementalist.

Sorry guys.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

I even went back and checked.

I see no nerfs.

Stop your whining.

Lost my 25% movement trait and got a useless 1.5s ‘Superspeed’ trait?
Lost the ability to preload a lot of my boons due to the 5 stack limit.
5 Target AoE not ignoring Blocking/Evading targets?

Warriors can now move while knocking me on my kitten

Taldren.7523:

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

I even went back and checked.

I see no nerfs.

Stop your whining.

Lost my 25% movement trait and got a useless 1.5s ‘Superspeed’ trait?
Lost the ability to preload a lot of my boons due to the 5 stack limit.
5 Target AoE not ignoring Blocking/Evading targets?

Warriors can now move while knocking me on my kitten

I see that as good for the game, as long as it came with actual buffs to the horrible elementalist, but the did not.

Wiz.1543:

<Trolling>

This isn’t the place for your trolling. This forum and this thread are for constructive discussions on the useless elementalist class.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

I even went back and checked.

I see no nerfs.

Stop your whining.

Other posters have already listed a bunch of nerfs, and I was referring to the ones before that… so maybe double checking isn’t enough and triple checking is the right thing for you?

Caffynated.5713:

Nobody did it. Johnathan Sharp struggles beating staff eles, so they’re clearly OP.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/We-knew-Warriors-would-end-up-this-way/first#post3031584

JonathanSharp.7094:

That’s why we want to see what today’s improvements do to the game, especially to support meta. I ran into a VERY strong staff Elementalist earlier on live, and was excited to see it when I did.

Ele nerfs imminent.

Wow… and this is his profession… wow.

I know, right?

My ele’s face has been stuck like this since reading that.

xiv.7136:

I solo’ed Jon Sharp’s shout-stunlock warrior on my condition staff 30-earth elementalist.

Sorry guys.

How?!?! Did he just think he could tank 3-4 eruptions b/c he was playing the uber-passive warrior class and was caught off guard? I want you to explain your play-style please.

I really don’t understand how staff can solo a competent player, although I do think it could be o.k. for nuking a point in team-fights when combined with frost bow.

He probably wrote that so more people see staff as OP or something.

If you guys ever see a dev in game, please play horribly so they don’t mistake the skill we’ve developed playing this up class for the class itself being good.

Jabberwock.9014:

If you guys ever see a dev in game, please play horribly so they don’t mistake the skill we’ve developed playing this up class for the class itself being good.

Considering he thinks he saw a strong staff ele, there is no chance anyone could play bad enough for him to think we aren’t all OP.

Sir, that is srsly Epic. And me, foolish me, wasn’t aiming to get a sig on forum.

cheshirefox.7026:

4}if you can’t bring yourself to re-roll character, re-roll game

That’s what I did and I don’t regret it. From time to time I take a peak into the game after reading the patchnotes, nothing really changes though. The content they bring with every patch is awesome, but in the end it all comes down to the class you play. What’s the use in playing if your favourite class is no fun anymore?

I’ve spent and stuck with ele since near launch… And I’m starting to fade. I have multiple toons that I also love to play but I have always loved my ele. If we don’t get some honest and true buffs to keep up with the current other class buffs then they’re going to see zero eles in game outside of pve.

You already rarely see eles in wvw/pvp. The ones you do are holding on with our last finger trying to save our beloved class.

But PvE players are the one who buy gems so … ?