Why does Focus Fire 5 Have a 40 Second CD?

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Posted by: Neko.9021

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Straight-up simple question. Why does Fire Aura have have such a ginormous cooldown?

I really do want to know, and I hope every Ele out there bumps this thread until we get a good answer.

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Posted by: Ptolomy.6984

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To be honest i have no idea in my opinion it seems weaker than frost aura so i have no clue why its cd is longer. Maybe cos anet is afraid that bunkers will get even more might with it.

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Posted by: Solo.9027

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Because you aren’t supposed to sit in one attunement waiting for it to come off cooldown. It’s by design.

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Posted by: emikochan.8504

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Probably due to the aura traits being more important than the auras sometimes…

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Posted by: Redscope.6215

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Straight-up simple question. Why does Fire Aura have have such a ginormous cooldown?

I really do want to know, and I hope every Ele out there bumps this thread until we get a good answer.

Your good answer:

You have 4 sets of ‘4’ and ‘5’ skills. That’s 4 more high-end skills than everyone else and depending on how you outfit your engineer, it can be 6 more.

Eles basically have 4 weapon sets. Their last two skills should really never fall below the 30 second cooldown mark (even though some of them are shorter and RtL has its cooldown reduced when hitting a target).

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Posted by: Grove.2835

Grove.2835

^ya that^. Ele’s have access to more skills so they put them on long cds, they just forgot to make some of those skills not suck :P Focus fire skills are the winner.
Would be cool and prob not op if the focus applied fire aura lasts twice as long or grants aegis.

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Posted by: Scrambles.2604

Scrambles.2604

Yeah, it is kinda weird to be such a long cd.

I guess a better question would be, why are you using a focus? lol

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Posted by: MasterDeere.3417

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Anet… I guess its a copy paste from dagger 5 for the coding, then they changed the skill but didnt cared about the cooldown.

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Posted by: Danicco.3568

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I think it’s because it’s clearly OP.

I know I deliberately get hit at least 5 times in a row just so I can benefit of the maximum of 5 Might stacks, and then I proceed to destroy whoever attacked me fully buffed with my 5 Might stacks. That is, if the attackers aren’t burnt to death by now.

Whoever designed this was out of his mind, I don’t know how could such an obvious overpowered skill was allowed to exist, so I think they counter-balanced it with the long cooldown.

(this is sarcasm)

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Posted by: Avead.5760

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I dont kittening know..Focus is so messed up.
Why earth 5 has only 50 sec cd?Actually why such an op skill even exists?

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Posted by: Swim.6830

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Straight-up simple question. Why does Fire Aura have have such a ginormous cooldown?

I really do want to know, and I hope every Ele out there bumps this thread until we get a good answer.

Your good answer:

You have 4 sets of ‘4’ and ‘5’ skills. That’s 4 more high-end skills than everyone else and depending on how you outfit your engineer, it can be 6 more.

Eles basically have 4 weapon sets. Their last two skills should really never fall below the 30 second cooldown mark (even though some of them are shorter and RtL has its cooldown reduced when hitting a target).

You’d be right except that’s the whole point to elementalist – diversity and all those abilities.

We dont have 7k shatters on 10 sec cooldown, almost infinite blocks, stealth, proper pets… etc. The cooldowns are unwarranted if our class is to be what it was meant to. Right now it’s like we have no speciality compared to other classes.

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Posted by: emikochan.8504

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I dont kittening know..Focus is so messed up.
Why earth 5 has only 50 sec cd?Actually why such an op skill even exists?

Shield block is on a much lower cd. And it’s not OP on the focus.

Focus is for tanking ele :p

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Posted by: Avead.5760

Avead.5760

I dont kittening know..Focus is so messed up.
Why earth 5 has only 50 sec cd?Actually why such an op skill even exists?

Shield block is on a much lower cd. And it’s not OP on the focus.

Focus is for tanking ele :p

..really?
Shield stance lasts only 3 secs,doesnt prevent unblockable attacks from hitting you,doesnt let you do any other action for the duration,is 1 out of only 10 weaponskills..
Just compare it to mistform which is a 75 sec utility.I tell you it doesnt make sence.. and mistform has been nerfed so hard at last balance patch while this is untouched
Of ocurse if they ever fix focus so it doesnt suck i expect this skill to really ,really get toned down.

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Posted by: Navzar.2938

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The four skills sets argument is pretty weak because fireshield has a longer cd for it’s effect+duration even in comparison to other ele skills, specifically other auras.
Magnetic- reflect proj, lasts 5 sec 30 cd
Frost- 10% damage reduction, chill attacker (2s), lasts 7sec, 40 cd
Shocking- stun attacker (1s), lasts 5 sec, 25sec cd
Fire shield- burn attacker (1s), 1 stack of 10s might a hit, lasts 5 sec, 40cd

The others have much better upkeep times and better effects (Burning and might are already very common on ele anyway).

So for the long cd, I see a few reasons. So my guesses are:
1. As someone else said, the boon on aura traits are factored in because they make a good difference.
2. It’s on the focus, so they want to try to balance the skills.
3. Fire aura from leap finisher and the fire shield skill are the same thing and anet doesn’t want to go to the trouble of splitting the skills.
4? I guess the fire aura would be better on other classes since they have much less burning, so they’re taking sharing into account.

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Posted by: Razor.6392

Razor.6392

The better question is… why does Focus Air 5 (Gale) have a 50 seconds cooldown?

It should either:
-Do damage if it wants to keep that cooldown
-Have a 40 seconds cooldown
or
-Be an instant cast (it’s a 0.75 second cast, like lightning touch)

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Posted by: TGSlasher.1458

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Not to mention that the 0.75 cast means someone can LOS you (by walking through you) before you can get it off lol.

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Posted by: Blaine Tog.8304

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The Focus is just generally bad. No offense meant to those who like it, but it needs some serious retuning (and a few skills reworked entirely, and better trait support).

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

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Straight-up simple question. Why does Fire Aura have have such a ginormous cooldown?

I really do want to know, and I hope every Ele out there bumps this thread until we get a good answer.

Your good answer:

You have 4 sets of ‘4’ and ‘5’ skills. That’s 4 more high-end skills than everyone else and depending on how you outfit your engineer, it can be 6 more.

Eles basically have 4 weapon sets. Their last two skills should really never fall below the 30 second cooldown mark (even though some of them are shorter and RtL has its cooldown reduced when hitting a target).

You are forgetting the drawbacks. Eles have many skills, but most of the damage on those skills, especially autoattacks, suck so you have to WEAVE all those skills to do the damage of a class that does it with 2 buttons.

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Posted by: Cirian.8917

Cirian.8917

The 2 fire spells on focus ought to be on 15s cooldowns.

Flamewall would be a fine spell as a 900 range gtaoe on a 15s cooldown. It’s a fire field, but you’ll probably only land a tick or two on enemies where you cast it.

Flame Aura with a 15s cooldown would be mostly about the aura traits. The aura’s basic effect is so-so; it really needs sharing onto a character than can soak hits to gain might (water grandmaster trait), and/or traiting for protection (earth adept trait) or fury and swiftness (air adept trait). Any of those effects on a 15s cooldown flame aura would be fine; remember to take the focus means giving up the offhand dagger’s frost aura, which is already powerful without any traits!