Guild Wars 2

Hello fellow Ele’s, what classes would you say you feel you struggle against more in pvp? I think mine is probably thief and decent necro players!

Of course the player must know the class. Bad wone will always die. If he´s decent or better then:
Kryptonite:

Necro in any teamfight. It´s kill him or loose. In 1:1 it can go either way but the realy good ones will win.
Condie Mesmer.

Not Kryptonite but mostly loss:
Warrior in 1:1. Power and condie are dangerous. None kills me fast but both can hunt me down. I usually struggle to kill them in 1:1. In teamfights they often melt.

Well I have played Ele since release so I like to think I know the class pretty well. Definitely agree with Necro and Mesmer, both are a pain to fight! Warriors I don’t have a problem with. What build do you use for your ele?

Yesterday i tried close to meta and it was aweful… The feeling .. so cruel. Could not kill and also not survive better. Only teamheling was better but had no real impact.
Swaped back and won … Well of couse can´t win all..

My current build:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJArdn0XC9XiVYCOOAcYilNAb4BEAugFpxN4Nwdv+XPsA-TJhAQBXZ/BJWGoDnAAA8AAAA

Thief is quite easy with it. Lack of stunbreaks gives me troubles with warior but i use overloads for it which works well 90% of the time. So unless you chain CC and focus i won´t die and i dish out good damage actually killing.
And teamsupport + Healing is still good with it. People forget what arane can do.
Depending on oposing team i swap cleansing flame and flash freeze with arcane shield and aftershok as needed.

Since I play mostly core Ele fresh scepter focus/scepter dagger in 1v1 scenario I only have problems with condì Mesmer since illusions with superspeed make them unkitable and difficult to dodge + confusion condition is in general a counter to Ele fresh since you use a lot of skills. And actually I’m facing a lot of very goods mesmer.
Different thing is with warriors, that usually are not a problem, since mostly of warriors I face are pretty brainless, IF you don’t have to contest the point. Good ones instead can, espacially power wars, can eat you alive with few skills if they have a good timing.
Druids and scrapper are usually a stalemate, since with focus earth skilss and focus air 4 you can avoid most of their damage but hardly you have enough pressure to kill then.
Thieves and necros are a problem only in team fight since a thief can instadown you if he catch you out of cd, and necros can Apply tons of chill (another counter to Ele) but both of them are usually not a problem in 1v1.
Dh in general are freekills if you dont mess up.

Saunby.5306:

Hello fellow Ele’s, what classes would you say you feel you struggle against more in pvp? I think mine is probably thief and decent necro players!

What build do you play? Just ele isn’t telling much.

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Saunby.5306:

Hello fellow Ele’s, what classes would you say you feel you struggle against more in pvp? I think mine is probably thief and decent necro players!

What build do you play? Just ele isn’t telling much.

I play s/f Meta’s Fresh Air Dps with some of my own moderations and tweaks

If you said thief, you have a bit of work to do, a thief shouldn’t be able to handle you well on his own

As for 1v1 or counters in any situation, that would be necros, they can rip more of your boons than you can apply

Lord Velar.1509:

If you said thief, you have a bit of work to do, a thief shouldn’t be able to handle you well on his own

As for 1v1 or counters in any situation, that would be necros, they can rip more of your boons than you can apply

All thieves? I too play squishy and burst thieves are a pain to win against. It is more a question of them making mistakes when I win, then me playing flawless (I play staff, not S/F tho but still).

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Lord Velar.1509:

If you said thief, you have a bit of work to do, a thief shouldn’t be able to handle you well on his own

As for 1v1 or counters in any situation, that would be necros, they can rip more of your boons than you can apply

All thieves? I too play squishy and burst thieves are a pain to win against. It is more a question of them making mistakes when I win, then me playing flawless (I play staff, not S/F tho but still).

Most of the eles I run against keeps my damage to as much a minimum as possible, I usually get them to at least 10% health before I’m downed, then if they can they heal back up

it never fails

Lord Velar.1509:

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Lord Velar.1509:

If you said thief, you have a bit of work to do, a thief shouldn’t be able to handle you well on his own

As for 1v1 or counters in any situation, that would be necros, they can rip more of your boons than you can apply

All thieves? I too play squishy and burst thieves are a pain to win against. It is more a question of them making mistakes when I win, then me playing flawless (I play staff, not S/F tho but still).

Most of the eles I run against keeps my damage to as much a minimum as possible, I usually get them to at least 10% health before I’m downed, then if they can they heal back up

it never fails

Most of the ele play meta auramancers… you therefore run in near perma protection and regen with earth magic mitigating crits or condis a lot… which is not the case of the people you replied to. Far from it…

I find power warriors to be the most dangerous. Checking the combat log and seeing arc divider crits for 8-12k (depending if they are using boon strip to remove protection) is discouraging. And apparently that’s AFTER a power nerf!

Lord Velar.1509:

If you said thief, you have a bit of work to do, a thief shouldn’t be able to handle you well on his own

As for 1v1 or counters in any situation, that would be necros, they can rip more of your boons than you can apply

Kite reapershroud, blind/dodge staff’s marks and elite skill, interrupt his heal= necro freekill. S/f fresh air Ele has always countered necro (probably only not when mercenary amulet was a thing and chill was doing damage)

Good Thieves in other hands are more a dangerous of necros, if they they wait you burn your difensive cooldowns

AliamRationem.5172:

I find power warriors to be the most dangerous. Checking the combat log and seeing arc divider crits for 8-12k (depending if they are using boon strip to remove protection) is discouraging. And apparently that’s AFTER a power nerf!

Well at least arc divider is easy to dodge now

Saunby.5306:

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Saunby.5306:

Hello fellow Ele’s, what classes would you say you feel you struggle against more in pvp? I think mine is probably thief and decent necro players!

What build do you play? Just ele isn’t telling much.

I play s/f Meta’s Fresh Air Dps with some of my own moderations and tweaks

Do you run A/E/Ar or A/W/Ar? Because if you run earth and you are Having problems with necro you can swap it for water for more cleans… and honestly I find run water far superior even vs thieves

Node-Acivated, everything else makes no sence.

Rev: Kills you
Necro: Needs time, but he will do
Warri : Power or condi, he will do
Mesmer: can be a long fight if you dodge well and dont gets the moa, if dead
thief: can do, but happens not often, his job is different
guard: nope
Druid: nope
engi: nope

As fresh air its different story, because you dont need to stall on a node or something like, it isnt your job. As fresh air arcane/water/air i can perform good against necros, guards needs loooooooooong time but it is working, thiefs is tricky one, it depends if you land phoenix or not. Warri is also kitish and looooooong. At end as fresh air you need just to much time to end things quick but it is solid.

lucadiro.4519:

Lord Velar.1509:

If you said thief, you have a bit of work to do, a thief shouldn’t be able to handle you well on his own

As for 1v1 or counters in any situation, that would be necros, they can rip more of your boons than you can apply

Kite reapershroud, blind/dodge staff’s marks and elite skill, interrupt his heal= necro freekill. S/f fresh air Ele has always countered necro (probably only not when mercenary amulet was a thing and chill was doing damage)

Good Thieves in other hands are more a dangerous of necros, if they they wait you burn your difensive cooldowns

That might work if hes running a meta build, I’m not too sure tbh, all of my chars but my rev all have custom builds. If they have the soul reaping trait, kiting shroud is going to be even harder, blind might be a bit effective depending on their reaper trait.

Idk I guess it depends on the skill level of both players bro lol

I keep my necros to where he can keep you boon ripped and dps up no matter if I’m running condi or power

Ele kryptonite: the balance team

I sometimes read in team chat: “ele how can you lose 1v1 against a necro?” Are we supposed to win everytime against a nec? Or is it just ignorance speaking?

Otherwise, condifarter builds war/rev/chrono can be a pain if i can’t kite properly.

I used to love my ele back in the day until I saw the light of a Druid. With boon strip on my LB + poison + massive CC combos… Yeah, an ele just isn’t what they used to be. Now, if there is an ele in a group then that’s a different story all together.

From an auramancer perspective, my gut agrees with Wolfric, although I don’t find necros to be quite as dangerous as he seems to. Both necros and mesmers can outsustain an auramancer 1v1 (although you shouldn’t be in that situation, it still happens) and hunt you out in a teamfight.

I wouldn’t really call either ‘kryptonite’, though. The auramancer ele is there to support the team, and a good team can stop either from focusing on the ele more than the ele can handle.