Guild Wars 2

Can someone who watched twitch AMA etc. … and is playing ele long tell me If will be d/d celestial ele still viable after expansion depending on what they showed on twitch (traits etc..)

If we assume that everything presented in the preview goes in as is, I think it would be a fairly safe bet that almost all cele dd’s will be replaced with shoutbows and bunker guardians. Shout bow is already starting to over take DD in popularity in top level play and is way stronger it at low level and these changes are looking to seal it. Our support, cleansing, and damage are all taking serious hits to become arguably stronger in 1v1 against power builds something the build already is very strong at. All the while every other meta spec seems to be getting some strong buffs without having to worry about things like “Those are very core to elementalists and that is why they need to be a choice” (the hypocrisy behind this comment in conjunction with the changes for the other classes is sickening). I honestly believe that we will be stuck competing with necro for the worst class in pvp substantially bellow the other 6 (7 if revenant is also decent) by a wide margin if these changes go through.

you could basically say that d/d ele will be insanely op in terms of 1v1 but not viable anymore in high end pvp due to the nerf to support.

to wrap it up:

nerf to support, evasive arcana vs elemental attunement

buff because of the earth line traits + elemental contingency retaliation.

if you’re a wvw roamer you will be fine, if you play sPvP, switch to warrior or if you really like ele, pray that there will be a viable build even if it won’t be the same role anymore.

Jekkt.6045:

you could basically say that d/d ele will be insanely op in terms of 1v1 but not viable anymore in high end pvp due to the nerf to support.

to wrap it up:

nerf to support, evasive arcana vs elemental attunement

buff because of the earth line traits + elemental contingency retaliation.

if you’re a wvw roamer you will be fine, if you play sPvP, switch to warrior or if you really like ele, pray that there will be a viable build even if it won’t be the same role anymore.

I figured it would be fine in roaming and unless I’m misreading something we basically have to go all or nothing in trait lines. This doesnt bother me too much as I haven’t used Evasive Arcana in ages for roaming, I opt for 4 in lightning to get high fury uptime and bolt to the heart or 2 lightning 2 earth for 10% damage in 600 and fury.

So basically I’ll be staying the same for roaming as I’ll still be picking up elemental attunement, water for obvious reasons, and either earth or air (leaning towards air but we’ll see).

I feel bad for the Spvp Ele’s, celestial getting nerfed and losing either of the EA’s is a pretty big blow.