Ele PvE "best dps" build help

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Posted by: nagr.1593

nagr.1593

I recently lvled my ele to 80 and looking at the PvE guides on forums it seems conflicting views (maybe coz of the new patch?).. anyway I had a few things i was wondering about.. 1st which is the best mainhand/offhand wep in terms of dmg+utilities? when i say utilities I guess i would include combo fields. I am currently using D/F but I have heard dagger or scepter mainhand, focus or dagger offhand.. kinda confused. imo I can see S/D being useful to stack might easier, however with focus i think better utilities. is there an obvious choice or can i just wing it? I’m mostly using LH auto for everything so i dont think it would really matter.

My other question was about my gear/trait setup. In an organized group i think i have it down, however in cases when im pugging i won’t be able to use my crit food (too costly for me). So should I be lookin at assassins or zerker armor? I have all zerker trinkets atm. my traits are 10/10/25/25/0 looking at the meta thread (my 2nd choice 30/10/10/20/0 which i might switch out to later).

Arun Kar

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Posted by: Anierna.6918

Anierna.6918

What you need to do for your group (stack might/fury/vuln) determines what build you use. Check out my guide (the link’s in my sig, and it’s also stickied) to figure out the highest-DPS build based on what your group needs.

I think I did a pretty good job explaining everything in the guide; however, if I missed something or didn’t explain something clearly, please tell me in this thread and I’ll reply. Maybe update the guide too, based on your feedback
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EDIT: oh, you edited your post saying you saw my guide. Great!

In regard to the food, I know Sweet&Spicies and Butternut Curries are expensive; for pug’ing, I use Griffon Egg Omelet’s and dungeon potions (or the lvl 60 prec pots for AC). Griffon Omelets were only a few copper back when I bought them, so I loaded up; I dunno what they are now. Dungeon pots are really cheap too, even the Powerful ones, so you might as well stock up on them.

The gear differs based on which build you use. I have a full set of assasins/scholars, and full set of zerk/scholars, so I just switch out pieces of armor based on what build I’m running atm. My third set is assassins/might durations; I haven’t bothered to get a zerk/might duration set, since I only use might durations while pug’ing.

Unless your group is already: maxing out might, keeping perma fury, and maintaining maximum vuln, you shouldn’t use Build A , the one with the Staff in my guide. You ought to use a s/f LH build, or s/d LH if you prefer that (although s/f is more effective; watch that s/f rotation vid I linked in my guide).

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Posted by: nagr.1593

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The gear differs based on which build you use. I have a full set of assasins/scholars, and full set of zerk/scholars, so I just switch out pieces of armor based on what build I’m running atm. My third set is assassins/might durations; I haven’t bothered to get a zerk/might duration set, since I only use might durations while pug’ing.

thats what i was trying to avoid, didn’t want to waste gold on 2x scholars set since I’m tryin to save up.. but i guess it cant be helped. might duration might actually be a good idea and i’ll check it out when i can.

I will try out S/F and see how that works for me. i actually didnt see the vid you had posted, i guess my only problem with scepter was that its hard to position tooth unless you have a target to use it on (you did a good job showing how to do that too). And yes, I’m using the ‘best build’ based on what I think my group would need..just that I’m surprised there are so many builds since I’m used to playing my war which only has one meta build

Arun Kar

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Posted by: Anierna.6918

Anierna.6918

Playing the S/F Builds (C, E, & F):

—SNIP—

This rotation is shown in the following vid (pretend the Boon Durations are Might Durations – it was an error on my part):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeRhQ40ckQ4

There’s the rotation vid. I need to remake a lot of my vids to show the might upkeep while using scholars or might durations. I just haven’t gotten around to it yet. I’ll spend some time at the practice dummies today and just get it done.

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Posted by: Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Guanglai Kangyi.4318

The gear differs based on which build you use. I have a full set of assasins/scholars, and full set of zerk/scholars, so I just switch out pieces of armor based on what build I’m running atm. My third set is assassins/might durations; I haven’t bothered to get a zerk/might duration set, since I only use might durations while pug’ing.

thats what i was trying to avoid, didn’t want to waste gold on 2x scholars set since I’m tryin to save up.. but i guess it cant be helped. might duration might actually be a good idea and i’ll check it out when i can.

I will try out S/F and see how that works for me. i actually didnt see the vid you had posted, i guess my only problem with scepter was that its hard to position tooth unless you have a target to use it on (you did a good job showing how to do that too). And yes, I’m using the ‘best build’ based on what I think my group would need..just that I’m surprised there are so many builds since I’m used to playing my war which only has one meta build

Warrior has more than one meta build, most warriors are just bad and run the easiest option.

If you don’t want to go Scholar you can just run Ruby Orbs. They are much cheaper and the damage difference is only about 6% IIRC. It’s big enough to warrant the switch from a minmax perspective but not if it’ll break your bank in the process. You are better off spending the money on making an ascended staff for when you run staff builds, or on a few stacks of decent consumables. I like to get a stack of Candied Dragon Rolls on every character, it costs you maybe half a gold to get a stack (I dunno the current going price) and it’ll last you pretty much forever. If even that’s too expensive get Blackberry Pies instead.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

Warrior has more than one meta build, most warriors are just bad and run the easiest option.

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Posted by: Mars.6319

Mars.6319

If you pug just go staff. The average pug will have classes that can blast your fields if they care enough to stack might, which they probably won’t… and you’ll never get everyone to stand in one place so that you can go through a rotation that stacks might unless you’re running easy content where the boss is usually dead in a matter of seconds anyway.

Range, AoE and survivability are far more important in fractals than might stacks. Going melee to stack might with 12k hps on bosses that melee for 15k will make your pug hate you.

Of course it’s better for everyone if you spec for DPS but let’s face it, it’d also be better for everyone if you played a zerker War… so do what you like and what works for you. If you want to pug with 30 in earth and water wearing full stamina/toughness gear then go for it.