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Posted by: urinfamousr.7631

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i love standing right on top of a player i just up-drafted switch to fire lay the ring down and fire grab for a miss, followed by another miss with flame breath =D

anyone ever get an invulnerable to someone KD?? had that happen to in spvp knocked a ranger down hit fire breath for full invul i was like wth >.> only seen it on a KD

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Posted by: DJRiful.3749

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Fire Grab is still an issue for me, sometime I am right in front of my target and it just “Missed”.

I am not sure if it was the latency but this is dumb. 50% of the time my Fire Grab is a fail. Only successful if I do it in front of a zerg. It will hit 2 guys.

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Posted by: emikochan.8504

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Posted by: MarzAttakz.9608

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I usually play on 200-225ms latency and the misses are very noticable. Things go from challenging to impossible on the bad days when I hit 350ms+. Actually lost some guild duelling tournaments due to not being able to land practically all my offensive abilities.

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Posted by: Azrael.1408

Azrael.1408

Fire Grab sometimes fail for me too but not that often. I am with latency around 40-60ms. Regardless of latency it is a cone skill meaning it is easier to land. BUT there is a problem with the mechanic that calculates hit/miss – fire breath, cone of cold can be avoided by just going forward and strafing a bit – it is all miss. Lightning whip also misses..
I the case of Fire Grab and latency I suggest that due to the high latency (200+) the target may have strafed just before you activate the skill.
It appears there is something not right with those server calculations.

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Posted by: BRAiNZ.7480

BRAiNZ.7480

Fire 2 and Water 2 you actually have to aim by predicting where the target is moving. It takes some skill.

Lightning Whip and Fire Grab hitboxes are still badly broken…

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Posted by: Azrael.1408

Azrael.1408

actually not exactly – I see fire going directly through target and it is still a miss (fire2). Not always but a lot of times. If I have to be extremely precise to land a skill I’d love to see its damage multiplied.

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Posted by: TakeAChance.7186

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Fire Grab you need to directly facing the target. If they are to the side or behind you, it’s going to whiff.

Setups that I use to ensure it landing is: F3, F5 (Grab), F4 Switch to earth, E3 (Fire Aura), E4 (quake + might stack), 2 or 5 depending on if I am in a group. (E5 gives the opponent too much time to breathe).

Firegrab immediately after F3 is pretty much a guaranteed hit.

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Posted by: Caffynated.5713

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The only frequent situation where I seem to miss FG is when we’re on unlevel ground. The vertical axis hit box seems off.

Now fireball on the other hand. OMG.

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Posted by: DJRiful.3749

DJRiful.3749

Sure you weren’t blinded?

I know what I am doing, I stay true to my words. I am the one that charge in and fire everything before anyone has time to react and dodge. Like other said, hitbox is still an issue as well LoS.

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Posted by: Azrael.1408

Azrael.1408

I believe it is LoS, ground elevation and target positioning/hitbox. It appears pretty messy at moments.

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Posted by: urinfamousr.7631

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i usually go from RTL into updraft , fire 4 then fire 5 and fire 5 will almost always miss and the person is still on the ground at this point so chances of them moving away isnt possible. and yes i have had my fire 2 be going right through someone and still have it miss for every hit… very frustrating

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Posted by: Arheundel.6451

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Fire Grab is still an issue for me, sometime I am right in front of my target and it just “Missed”.

I am not sure if it was the latency but this is dumb. 50% of the time my Fire Grab is a fail. Only successful if I do it in front of a zerg. It will hit 2 guys.

From my tests it seems as the skill misses if you’re less than on step away from your target in whichever direction, normally to guarantee the hit I use is at the end of burning speed , I make sure the target receive the full dmg of burning speed before using Fire Grab

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Posted by: madatom.5218

madatom.5218

this game needs to let players set auto target to individual abilities

things like lightning whip and firegrab seem to hit things more consistently like this