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Posted by: ArcticRed.3068

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I created an Ele a few days ago as my WvW toon. I chose him for the mobility and the steady damage.

The thing is, im using sigil of air atm for my mobility, when i start WvW roaming i will need this slot for defensive skills. so apart from RTL where does an Ele’s mobility come from?
I fought many ele’s in WvW with my other toons and they could always break away and run if they needed to, but looking at the skills on my " fresh out the box" Ele i just cant see where the mobility comes from.

Any help?

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Posted by: Aether McLoud.1975

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Constant Swiftness. There’s like 10 different ways to achieve it.

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Posted by: Lifeson.4352

Lifeson.4352

Perma-swiftness. Air 10 point trait zephyr’s boon, auras give fury and swiftness. 2 auras with D/D + updraft. Boon duration from arcane trait bonus and runes.

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Posted by: Crunchy Gremlin.5798

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runes of the centaur
inscription
healing glyph.

when one with air is working that works pretty well.

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Posted by: Mogar.9216

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lol, this is what you do. Mist form , lighting flash , switch to air for swiftness then rtl . No one can catch you.

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Posted by: Aether McLoud.1975

Aether McLoud.1975

lol, this is what you do. Mist form , lighting flash , switch to air for swiftness then rtl . No one can catch you.

What a waste of cooldowns.

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Posted by: Crunchy Gremlin.5798

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lol, this is what you do. Mist form , lighting flash , switch to air for swiftness then rtl . No one can catch you.

Yes totally true for GTFO maneuvers but not so good for keep to keep travel.

Fiery great sword all by itself is a pretty decent map mover though.

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Posted by: Mogar.9216

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lol, this is what you do. Mist form , lighting flash , switch to air for swiftness then rtl . No one can catch you.

What a waste of cooldowns.

lol you rather die ?

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Posted by: Aether McLoud.1975

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lol, this is what you do. Mist form , lighting flash , switch to air for swiftness then rtl . No one can catch you.

What a waste of cooldowns.

lol you rather die ?

Use mistform → don’t die.
Use RTL → don’t die.
Use Lighting Flash → don’t die.

I just saved you from 3 deaths instead of only 1 like you did.

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Posted by: Mogar.9216

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lol, this is what you do. Mist form , lighting flash , switch to air for swiftness then rtl . No one can catch you.

What a waste of cooldowns.

lol you rather die ?

Use mistform -> don’t die.
Use RTL -> don’t die.
Use Lighting Flash -> don’t die.

I just saved you from 3 deaths instead of only 1 like you did.

Ok I concede to your superior tactics . You try that out next time when you try to get away from 6 v 1 and let me know how it works out for you.

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Posted by: E Kay.9236

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Ok I concede to your superior tactics . You try that out next time when you try to get away from 6 v 1 and let me know how it works out for you.

6 on 1? “Well, get some extra guys and then it’ll be a fair fight.” – James T. Kirk

Seriously though, in WvW if you get out alive of such odds, you are extremely good AND the 6 against you are VERY bad. This is not a problem with the class.

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Posted by: Mogar.9216

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Ok I concede to your superior tactics . You try that out next time when you try to get away from 6 v 1 and let me know how it works out for you.

6 on 1? “Well, get some extra guys and then it’ll be a fair fight.” – James T. Kirk

Seriously though, in WvW if you get out alive of such odds, you are extremely good AND the 6 against you are VERY bad. This is not a problem with the class.

Do as I posted and you will get away 90% of the time. if you use signet of air for your underwater set you will get away from even good gps.

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Posted by: MarzAttakz.9608

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6v1 – screw it I’d rather fight using those cooldowns and then die. Why people so kitten afraid of losing. HTFU. Chances are good you’ll put any allies in a good position to take those 6 out by standing your ground.

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Posted by: Otaur.9268

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6v1 – screw it I’d rather fight using those cooldowns and then die. Why people so kitten afraid of losing. HTFU. Chances are good you’ll put any allies in a good position to take those 6 out by standing your ground.

Because some casual players cannot play hours and hours to farm gold for repairs?

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Posted by: MarzAttakz.9608

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Because some casual players cannot play hours and hours to farm gold for repairs?

Farming to afford repair bills, for real? Can’t tell if that was sarcastic or not. If not then I would argue that those players will never have the time to master a D/D Ele either and are better off playing Staff or you know a Ranger.

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Posted by: ThiBash.5634

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As stated above, there are plenty of ways to get permanent swiftness. Personally, my current way is using +boon duration runes in combination with Glyph of Elemental Harmony (in Air), and then either the staff or the dagger’s swiftness skill. Of course, i also get it from swapping attunements and if really needed, I can also combo the staff’s eruption with static field for a partywide speed boost.

But that’s just one of the many possiblities, and you probably already get the tools to do so without specifically speccing for it.

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Posted by: covenn.7165

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6v1 – screw it I’d rather fight using those cooldowns and then die. Why people so kitten afraid of losing. HTFU. Chances are good you’ll put any allies in a good position to take those 6 out by standing your ground.

I don’t give anyone an easy kill on me ever. I will fight those 6 if I stand a reasonable chance of winning though. Last night I killed that many plus a couple with the help of guards by jumping in and out of a keep door. /shrug

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Posted by: covenn.7165

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Ok I concede to your superior tactics . You try that out next time when you try to get away from 6 v 1 and let me know how it works out for you.

6 on 1? “Well, get some extra guys and then it’ll be a fair fight.” – James T. Kirk

Seriously though, in WvW if you get out alive of such odds, you are extremely good AND the 6 against you are VERY bad. This is not a problem with the class.

Do as I posted and you will get away 90% of the time. if you use signet of air for your underwater set you will get away from even good gps.

Just as easy to get away from 50 as it is 6 using RTL and your cool downs.

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Posted by: MarzAttakz.9608

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6v1 – screw it I’d rather fight using those cooldowns and then die. Why people so kitten afraid of losing. HTFU. Chances are good you’ll put any allies in a good position to take those 6 out by standing your ground.

I don’t give anyone an easy kill on me ever. I will fight those 6 if I stand a reasonable chance of winning though. Last night I killed that many plus a couple with the help of guards by jumping in and out of a keep door. /shrug

Well played Sir! More along the lines of what I was insinuating. Most people just turn tail and run at the drop of a hat.

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Posted by: Strang.8170

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Ways eles can get swiftness:

Without traits

Staff air 4
Blast finisher in staff air 5
oh dagger air 5
Glyph of elemental harmony in air
Air elemental randomly

With zephyrs boon,
all of the auras
leap in ice or fire field
blast in ice field
any rune/sigil/trait that triggers auras

With inscription, all the glyphs cast in air

With elemental attunement, simply attuning to air.

Combining any of those should give any setup some kind of a access to perma/near-perma swiftness.
Oh, and the burning retreat/speed, rtl, magnetic grasp when in battle and updraft.

If all else fails, the air signet and one with air trait give pathetic 25%increase.

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Posted by: Mogar.9216

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6v1 – screw it I’d rather fight using those cooldowns and then die. Why people so kitten afraid of losing. HTFU. Chances are good you’ll put any allies in a good position to take those 6 out by standing your ground.

you have no idea how to play Ele in WvW, I bet you never solo roam at all . If you solo at all in WvW you’ll know that you spent 1/2 the time running from zergs. I wasn’t going to waste my time to argue with you but I will just so you don’t mislead new players. A good Ele should win 1 v1 99% of the time, 1 v2 is doable 80% of the time. 1 v 3 you can pull off 1/2 of the time and once in a blue moon you can do a 1 v 4.
Since we are talking about mobility and disengaging from a fight. We are talking about at some point you realize you are not going to win. Chances are you are about to get kill at that point. So you pick up and just get out. It would be idiotic to stay and die when you can run off. The added benefit of getting away is that a lot of the times 1 or 2 people will break from the group and chase you cross the map. Once you isolated those people you can stop and kill them.

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Posted by: MarzAttakz.9608

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Gee thanks Mogar but I solo and small party roam 75% of my time in WvW, the other 25% of the time is leading my own party in guild events and that’s where I play it safe.

You on the other hand advocate blowing 3 cooldowns to disengage from 6 players. Good luck when you really need those cooldowns and you’ve just blown them for nothing… I will use everything I have if I’ve pushed too deep into 10-15 players who know how to use CC properly though.

How else are you going to push yourself? Baiting some chasers is a valid tactic I agree but gets old fast.

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Posted by: Kilger.5490

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How does air elemental randomly give you swiftness boon? Wish the elementals abilities were listed somewhere

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Posted by: Aether McLoud.1975

Aether McLoud.1975

How does air elemental randomly give you swiftness boon? Wish the elementals abilities were listed somewhere

It only does in combat so it’s no use for just getting around. Also, the wiki lists all of the elemental skills.

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Posted by: Mogar.9216

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How does air elemental randomly give you swiftness boon? Wish the elementals abilities were listed somewhere

Arcane V , which is a must for any build imo. When you switch to air you get swiftness . Works all the time not just in combat.

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Posted by: Tarvok.4206

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6v1 – screw it I’d rather fight using those cooldowns and then die. Why people so kitten afraid of losing. HTFU. Chances are good you’ll put any allies in a good position to take those 6 out by standing your ground.

Maybe. But if you can successfully get away easily, you can also lead them on a merry chase. That’s one guy tying down six others for however long they feel like chasing you.