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Posted by: Lux.7169

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Recently (since this last update) I’ve been seeing several eles (in at least 10+ instances since the update) mysteriously self-revive after using mist form when downed in spvp.

100% sure there were no banner resses, stealthed player resses, nor elixir R resses or spirit resses. I also think it’s unlikely that there were any other eles using the ele signet res and each time my team on TS was extremely confused on how the ele picked himself up. One particular instance we had the ele pigeon-holed on the stair case leading from GY to Q and we had a ton of cleave on him with poison fields, cluster bombs, hambow had a firefield on him and landed hammerbash and at about 5% downed health the ele went into Mist Form and was alive (no one on our team was stomped or anything like that).

I am well aware of the many ways players can often miss how someone was revived and if this was a closed instance I wouldn’t really think twice, but it’s happened at -least- 10+ times in the past week and I am not sure what’s going on. I remember there used to be a glitch where if they were downed in tornado form the bonus health pool from tornado would allow them to revive if they used mist form, but none of these eles were using tornado, plus that glitch was fixed.

Any idea what’s going on here?

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Posted by: SonOfKrypton.4357

SonOfKrypton.4357

NO ONE SAY ANYTHING! SECRETS MUST BE KEPT.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

Lux.7169

LOL I messaged every ele who did it and they never even responded!

You eles are good at keeping your secrets, but I will find out XD!!!

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Posted by: SonOfKrypton.4357

SonOfKrypton.4357

It’s not really a secret. :P Get on your Ele and carefully go through all the Glyph abilities.

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Posted by: Gokil.2543

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Probably just rallied? Or can you rule that out as well?

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I can definitely rule out rallied for all of them.

I can’t rule out the glyph res (which I mistakenly referred to as signet res from ele) on all of them but I can rule it out on most.

In most cases they were literally almost cleaved to death with no one even attempting to res and then boom Mist form and they were instantly up at the end of mist form as if they had rallied (def were not rallied in these cases though).

It literally looked like the tornado glitch res.

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Posted by: cheese.4739

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It’s Glyph of Renewal in Fire Attunement, I expect? It gives a 15-second buff to the Ele that instantly resses them when downed... but it involves a >3 second cast. Maybe useful for bursters, and the other utility the skill provides is good, but the cast and cooldown really are horrible and there’s no real trait support for Glyphs.

Edit: oh yeah, you can tell it’s up because the buff from the Glyph is visible on the stats bar. If you see an Ele with that buff, don’t expect them to stop fighting at 0hp!

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Posted by: Lux.7169

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I’ve considered the self glyph but to my understanding it works instantly when downed. These players were usually downed for 3-7 seconds before mistforming and the revive happened after the mistform.

Also vs the eles that did this its extremely unlikely they would be using this unless the top tier meta for ele has changed significantly the last few days.

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Posted by: Axelwarrior.9084

Axelwarrior.9084

Tomes of knowledge would be my guess, but I think they nerfed that.

EDIT: Sorry, I thought you were talking about WvW. I just saw an ele do the same thing in WvW and she didn’t channel a glyph, so it can’t be that. However, I found her again later 2 times and killed her without her doing it.

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Posted by: shimmerless.4560

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I’ve considered the self glyph but to my understanding it works instantly when downed. These players were usually downed for 3-7 seconds before mistforming and the revive happened after the mistform.

Also vs the eles that did this its extremely unlikely they would be using this unless the top tier meta for ele has changed significantly the last few days.

I think everyone gets a tad bored and tries out new things from time to time.

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Posted by: cheese.4739

cheese.4739

I’ve considered the self glyph but to my understanding it works instantly when downed. These players were usually downed for 3-7 seconds before mistforming and the revive happened after the mistform.

Also vs the eles that did this its extremely unlikely they would be using this unless the top tier meta for ele has changed significantly the last few days.

Then it’s probably a rally on a death far away, if happening with any regularity (or maybe a Ranger or Warrior popped their elite out of sight, seeing someone downed on the minimap?) – a bug might happen once or twice, but not likely more than that often. Could possibly be a level-up or other exploit (especially if rally happens during those 3s of safety in Vapor Form, so the player can mess about with inventory or whatever to do it) but accusing people of haxxx without any actual evidence isn’t really constructive.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

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100% sure it wasn’t rally for most if not all of them. We were tQ’ing and pay attention to that sort of thing and communicate well.

That being said yes, it’s not every time that they did it and I am experienced enough to know every time a banner is used etc etc so that’s not in question. It seems like certain requirements are necessary but I’m missing the important part that facilitates this unique res.

I’ll update the thread with more information once I try and pester the eles I’ve seen doing it repeatedly.

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Posted by: moonreft.2138

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I’d figure a rally. Ele’s tag everyone in fights so someone across the map would have taken a burning speed or metor at one point during the match and died.

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

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I’d figure a rally. Ele’s tag everyone in fights so someone across the map would have taken a burning speed or metor at one point during the match and died.

Read his comments on this thread. Particularly the one before yours. xD

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