Guild Wars 2

How do i kill one with scep dag. jst dueled one for a whole match in a ranked game. he jst sat on point tanking. have no clue how to kill this thing

Warrior’s are super broken, I know you’re talking bout spvp but in wvw and pve you can get 3k armour and over 20k health with full zerker warrior they’re so broken. Just don’t even bother run away while the noob playing the class wishes he could play a class that requires real skill.

you can actually kill them with enough burst. You need to land everything perfectly and hope he doesn’t run halfway across the map before you have a chance to finish him off. Warrior heal sig is stupidly overpowered and has no counterplay since you can’t interrupt it and despite what warriors say, poison won’t help. I outheal even the worst poisons on my warrior and it can be cleansed very, very easily. So sigil of doom is next to worthless against them. You just have to outdamage the healing and hope the warrior isn’t the typical coward who runs away when he gets outplayed because he knows no one can catch him. When they start to run, laugh at them and beckon them a few times. 90% of the time their ego takes over and they come back and you can finish them.

land everything? i did.. i have 10% mod from elec trait, i have 10% mod from water wen health about 90% i have scholar runes. i did arcane blast and arcane wave and i hit my 2 electric while auto-ing and it only got him to 80%. wen i switched to fire he was already healed up.

like ive tested it with a friend and il sit there and auto him with elec or water and it literally does nothing the damage i do is not enough to lower his hp at all. im sitting with 2.8k attack and about 44% crit and still nothing

Didnt you get the memo?

what build and amulet are you using? on the rare occasions i do spvp i usually have a valk amulet with zerk jewel and a 0/30/10/20/10 build with scholar runes. It is a pain to kill some of the super tanky ones, pretty much impossible by yourself. if it’s one of the trolly bunker warriors, forget it. You’ll never outdamage their passive healing. you’ll get them to half at best and they’ll run and heal to full before your burst is ready again. It’s beyond broken. Average warriors can be killed though.

10/20/30/10/0. Arcane wave/ arcane blast/ last one is situational.. sometimes frost bow sometimes teleport.

full barbs…….

Do you have problems killing warriors in general or just the super tanky regen ones? I wish i could come in game and help, but i’m dealing with horrible lag right now. until the stupid cable company shows up in kinda stuck not playing for awhile. You’re probably better off asking Lightningblaze anyway in this matter. i don’t use scepter much and he could give you better tips on dealing with this.

its jst sig i swear. i see sig and my hear breaks. ive killed hundred bladed warriors,axe war and hammer wars only a few s/s/lb ones they are tougher for me cause i cant kite them as well, but if u pop a sig on there i literally cant do dmg i wish i could record and show u but my comp isnt good enough

i can kill healing sig warriors, its jsut the ones who build for full tankiness i can’t outdamage but are still capable of somehow dealing huge damage to me. Warrior is just an overpowered easymode class now. That’s all that can be said of it.

Ele was always subpar but rather than learn to counter us first, people cried for nerfs, then learned to counter us. So now everyone knows all our tricks and we’re far weaker than we were back when we were somewhat decent. Warrior can do now what ele was always accused of being able to do in the past, but never actually was able to do. They can do insane damage and outheal most of what you throw at them, and if you do manage to become a threat to them, you’ll never catch them.

It’s the devs pet class. All we can do at this point is outnumber them to kill them most of the time or hope they aren’t built full tank and are stupid enough to stay and fight so you can burst them down.

Mystogan.4157:

land everything? i did.. i have 10% mod from elec trait, i have 10% mod from water wen health about 90% i have scholar runes. i did arcane blast and arcane wave and i hit my 2 electric while auto-ing and it only got him to 80%. wen i switched to fire he was already healed up.

While I agree the warrior in general is … umm, good, to say the least, especially in the sustain department – I get the feeling you are not running s/d burst chains properly. You listed that you AB, AW, Lit2, and then AA… That’s not going to kill many people period.

S/D burst chain involves might stacking, and using our fire skills followed by a quick Air swap for the double Lit. The sum of the quick casts is our massive burst. So, for example, (there are other ways to run this), dragontooth (won’t hit him, but will make him move – used to blast finish), ring of fire, phoenix, arcane blast (the aoe one, I forget the names), firegrab, air swap, lightning strike, arcane wave (the single target one)… this is one burst. If you are traited for arcane upping your crit damage you can open with the instant single target to increase your crit damage at the start, and 16-20s later it will be ready to fire again. All in all this chain will hit hard while stacking 9 might. He should be seriously hurt after all of this, so you have the upper hand, now keep up pressure using quick AAs (aka, not lightning or fire), to proc as many air swaps as possible until you can burst again, but while doing this, don’t forget your other useful skills, like CCs, and healing yourself. Good luck.

My burst 1 shots thieves, glass else and most rangers. the damage i do amnts to about 20k in total after burst. ive tested numerous times on dummies and on guildies. i start in fire, ring of fire- phoenix behind enemy- dragon tooth- arcane wave-earth attune- earthquake-churning for might. then i switch to ele and burst. at the end i have 12 stacks of might. ill even drop fb if i have it and deep freeze then do aoe. still only goes to 1/4 and then endure pain pops and its back to square one while all of my skills are on cd. ik how to burst and might stack. thats basic stuff.

12-15 might from dragon took, phoenix, arcane wave, earthquake, and churning earth if you were wondering.

Full zerker Ele fighting an apothecary/perplex warrior last night = Dead Ele repeatedly while warrior just stabilities, runs around in circles with bow / hammer applying conditions and healing.

21k hp and 1.2k tough is not glass. Ive seen eles with 10k hp and 1k arm thats glass

They really should swap the ele healing signet and the warrior healing signet. Ele’s defense was supposed to be healing and mobility to make up for the squishiness. Warrior’s was supposed to be being able to take hits and kill something before it kills you. Well, they nerfed our healing and gave it to warrior and they have better mobility than us on top of that. with how in your face a warrior is it would make more sense for them to have the heal that only heals them when they attack. the passive one seems more fitting for an ele who is forced to kite and move around and has lots of downtime between their attacks because of long cooldowns and stuck being defensive for long periods of time in between combo chains due to inherent squishiness of the class.

Plus the elementalist is like a mage… Mages in alot of games have skills or passives that regen health while the warrior has skills that heal on attack… Like being blood thirs and shizz itd fit the classes better and itd make them not op

Mystogan.4157:

Plus the elementalist is like a mage… Mages in alot of games have skills or passives that regen health while the warrior has skills that heal on attack… Like being blood thirs and shizz itd fit the classes better and itd make them not op

Give me passives and I will cut you.

You’re not going to kill a defensive warrior with any Ele build assuming they have half a brain.

Mystogan.4157:

Plus the elementalist is like a mage… Mages in alot of games have skills or passives that regen health while the warrior has skills that heal on attack… Like being blood thirs and shizz itd fit the classes better and itd make them not op

Actually mages in other games have absorption shields, burst/nuke damage and escape/mobility tools all tied to mana pools. To compensate they have low health, low armor and bad healing.

But you should’ve realized by now that GW2 doesn’t have an actual mage class. Elementalist is something else entirely.

Mystogan.4157:

21k hp and 1.2k tough is not glass. Ive seen eles with 10k hp and 1k arm thats glass

I run full glass, 916 toughness. 10k hp roughly 11k with WvW bonuses

Mystogan.4157:

My burst 1 shots thieves, glass else and most rangers. the damage i do amnts to about 20k in total after burst. ive tested numerous times on dummies and on guildies. i start in fire, ring of fire- phoenix behind enemy- dragon tooth- arcane wave-earth attune- earthquake-churning for might. then i switch to ele and burst. at the end i have 12 stacks of might. ill even drop fb if i have it and deep freeze then do aoe. still only goes to 1/4 and then endure pain pops and its back to square one while all of my skills are on cd. ik how to burst and might stack. thats basic stuff.

If you know how to burst and might stack, then you should have no problems either killing the warrior. If the warrior is truly tanky enough to simply bunker down through your burst, then you should have no issues disengaging and resetting.

Regarding your burst, why are you churning earth? Yeah it stacks 3 might after a long telegraphed cast, and during this time you are doing 0 damage to the warrior and letting his heal siggy heal back a lot of the damage you just did. There are times to use it, but simply for the 3 might is often not one of them. Deep freeze is OK mid fight if your opponent is slow enough to eat the freeze, but its a better opener, and again – its another slow cast. You’re just letting the warrior heal back up, and good ones will interrupt the cast or dodge the attack. As for your admission that burst and might stacking is basic, then I do not understand why you are having problems if you find it so basic and are capable of higher level play? You can modify the listed sequence to get more up-front damage out of it, although you sacrifice some might stacks.

I guess the short of it – yes warriors are a hassle with healing signet, but many are readily taken care of. If it’s a true bunker warrior, well, bunkers are meant to bunker – they wouldn’t be much use if they died to one burst rotation of any class, so learn how to adapt your burst to draw out more sustained damage with sporadic burst shots that pressure and draw out his “oh-kitten” skills. Pay close attention to the enduring pains (if they are specced for 2 of them), and just halt all your attacks until it is off. I see a lot of eles (and people in general) burning high damage attacks on a warriors endure pain, or shield blocks, and then of course it is more difficult to deal with them then – your cds are burnt and they aren’t flinching.

I’ve also experienced this. The sad sad thing, it was an afk warrior, and I thought i’d test out my lightning auto. I could not get his health to go down.

I’ve had warriors spam laugh at me as i’ve rolled through all my skills and they don’t have to make any effort as they regen up.

The combination of adrenal regen, regen, +healing signet is nuts.

Nikkinella.8254:

They really should swap the ele healing signet and the warrior healing signet.

Keep in mind though that eles also have Soothing Mist and Regeneration, where warriors just have the signet. And eles can trait to also get the active. Combine those and it’s natural to make the ele version a bit weaker. Even if in practice it seems unfair.

ShadowNinja.1238:

Warrior’s are super broken, I know you’re talking bout spvp but in wvw and pve you can get 3k armour and over 20k health with full zerker warrior they’re so broken. Just don’t even bother run away while the noob playing the class wishes he could play a class that requires real skill.

You seriously do not got any clue at all about this game do you ? All you post is ..Warrs got 3k armor and 20khp,SO OP PLSZ NURFFF….Learn how to play,and stop complaining because of your own lack of skill.

Why do you need to insult him so much?He is overreacting but are you even any better?I mean..who knows?It is widely known warriors don’t have to sacrifice as much as other classes to obtain more than optimal stats.

On topic.D/D can get a bunker warrior down in WvW.I am not even gonna talk about sPvP.You fight bunker with bunker.If your ele is D/D with offesive gear (and no i do not mean full berserker) you can keep good dmg on the warrior by using your auras and having an aura up almost all the time during the fight.How do you do that?
Fire field→Earth→Magentic Grasp ALL THE kittenING TIME.(And ofc use your other 2 auras.Like that you keep fury up all the time and with decent Critical dmg you can actualy keep him around 50-60% HP consantly.When you manage to get him down that far,pop Fire elemental.Keep doing the same and combined with the elementals attack you will manage to get him lower.Most of them panic at 30-40% and they will either try to disengage/kill the elemental/or use the signet.If they use it,its game over,if they run with their 1minute stability on all you can do is follow(if you can) or consider it a win cause /chicken.If they kill the elemental now is the tme to use firegrab and Churning Earth to finish them off.For a faster fight you can even pop the elemental from the very start so he can feel the pressure.

It’s a good point. You can make use of combos to increase your effectiveness as an ele. It seems too few people do that, but the results canbe quite strong if you use them well. For example, you can effectively get a free Powerful Aura simply by using a blast finisher in an ice field. With a few traits, it can be a potent combo.

Graendall.4765:

Why do you need to insult him so much?He is overreacting but are you even any better?I mean..who knows?It is widely known warriors don’t have to sacrifice as much as other classes to obtain more than optimal stats.

On topic.D/D can get a bunker warrior down in WvW.I am not even gonna talk about sPvP.You fight bunker with bunker.If your ele is D/D with offesive gear (and no i do not mean full berserker) you can keep good dmg on the warrior by using your auras and having an aura up almost all the time during the fight.How do you do that?
Fire field->Earth->Magentic Grasp ALL THE kittenING TIME.(And ofc use your other 2 auras.Like that you keep fury up all the time and with decent Critical dmg you can actualy keep him around 50-60% HP consantly.When you manage to get him down that far,pop Fire elemental.Keep doing the same and combined with the elementals attack you will manage to get him lower.Most of them panic at 30-40% and they will either try to disengage/kill the elemental/or use the signet.If they use it,its game over,if they run with their 1minute stability on all you can do is follow(if you can) or consider it a win cause /chicken.If they kill the elemental now is the tme to use firegrab and Churning Earth to finish them off.For a faster fight you can even pop the elemental from the very start so he can feel the pressure.

or use he human elite like i do( the poison and chill is gonna destroy bunkers)

i mean the death reaper or whatever its called

i permanently use that unless i need fgs when running into a zerg