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Posted by: BishopX.6453

BishopX.6453

i felt just as mad as i did before i did the “one and only” build we can play (defensive + auras)

i dont know why i for some reason thought we had flexiability to play other specs.
I went full earth, and arcane, ran nightmare runes for the condition and toughness and 2 centaur runes for the 15% bleed duration.
now when i went up to golems, this was a GREAT spec, 3 cast pretty much put enough bleed to kill a golem outright, which made bleed far superior to burn, and with the raised endurance i figured i could get into long term fights.

well the thieves showed me just how stupid this spec was, i thief teleported over to me at the base…, stealthed, droped caltrops on me, then proceded to dodge all over the place throwing caltrops. I bled to death even with armor of earth up.

this happened to me multiple times today, took off work and stayed home to play, i rage quit at least 5 times. so when i say I REALLY gave this build a try.. i REALLY did.

http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mcqMz9mMRbvMMRbvM9MxaxmkRVVmq8khs7kiO7070c7kGW7070m7ow3
the build i ran

things of note for anyone else thinking about doing pvp with a condition build…
churning earth applies many stacks of bleed but for a short duration, but the evasive arcana churning earth applies ONE bleed for the same damage but for a much longer (12 sec)

im happy with the damage output, but i had forgotten that 1 clense removes 12 stacks of bleed, so it took a while to kill other eles, but i chewed past most guardians i ran into that didnt pay attention to me. but too many bleed + caltrop thieves now and too many aoe effects for this build to work. you need to either have protection up or regen+soothing mist up at all times for the ele to work it seems.

rant over back to bunker aura build i go

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Posted by: Rolyate.6753

Rolyate.6753

" took off work and stayed home to play"

Really?

Rolyate
How do you pronounce your name?

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Posted by: Gavoll.9085

Gavoll.9085

This does look like some impressive bleed damage, but yeah… I think the problem is that it relies on only one form of condition damage that is just too easy to remove, and it takes a bit too long for the bleeds to do their work. The burns would be decent, but its the bleeds that need to stick. The added fact that this weapon set leaves you mainly single target would make for some frustrating spvp play. Now if all that bleed was AoE…

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Posted by: BishopX.6453

BishopX.6453

ya, Jets lost last night… I couldnt sleep, knicks lost and it made things even worse. Its almost november and I have 5 sicks days and 13 vacation days left and you cant carry over days, so i figured lets take the day off and relax in my chair and game.
and while i was gaming, i decided to try out new builds and combinations.
I know it sounds shallow to not go to work while other people are broke, but sometimes ya just need a day to decompress.

too bad i think i worked up more stress and rage playing against these thieves and mezmers than actually being at my office.

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Posted by: Otaur.9268

Otaur.9268

Bishop, what server you on? Im on Henge of Denravi. Im currently experimenting with a D/D Power/Condition/Defensive build.

Blackfang’s Demon Alliance [BfDA]

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Posted by: Otaur.9268

Otaur.9268

So far it is not bad, been soloing Svanir / Chieftan for practice atm.

Blackfang’s Demon Alliance [BfDA]

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Posted by: Trump.9803

Trump.9803

You could try to improve the defensive side some more, given a Condition build needs to outlast the enemy….

Drop Arcane down to 10, and bump that into 30 Water to get Soothing Disruption and Cleansing Water. Then take 3 Cantrips for your Utils. Now anytime you’re popping a Cantrip to escape a Stun or CC, you’ll also be cleansing off the pesky bleeds the thief just loaded on you and regenerating health.

As for Earth, Strength of Stone (+10% damage when in Earth) I dont think that affects Bleed damage, if that was your intention? Serrated Stones for +20% Bleed Duration is very good obviously, thus keep that and you free up the 30 trait for Written in Stone; now Signet Of Restoration is worth slotting, you’ve got Healing power basically to max with Shamans Amulet and 30 in Water so every attack gives a nice heal, and you can actively cast the Heal without losing the Passive effect.

Your Sigils, I’d probably look at ones that increase burn or bleed duration. The only problem with Burning I found was a lot of attacks had only short duration Burning and thus it takes heaps of extra +Duration just get the 1 extra Tick of damage.

Anyways, I played around with various Condition builds and generally found them just a little too slow to kill ppl overall – usually backup arrives for either side, thus trivializing your well orchestrated death by 1000 cuts . There is some workable builds in there though.

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Posted by: Lurch.4793

Lurch.4793

This is what I’m going to use.

PvE Farming Glyph Build
http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mcsc9cz0MohvMMobvMGG0x0okcRzaq

Basically I use the elementals as my disposable tanks, and bounce between Fire (attack) and Water (healing) while staying at range.

Water traits are speced for extra healing and conditional removal upon regeneration.
Fire traits are for extra punch.
Air traits are for faster glyphs and extra buffs.

I know I will get spanked outside of Care Bare PvE. If I want to go sPvP or WvWvW, I’ve got a warrior and thief for that.

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Posted by: BishopX.6453

BishopX.6453

who cares about pve builds??
EVERYTHING works in pve

on a side note.. sandstorm is AWESOME. you would think fire storm would do the most, lightning storm would do next and ice and sand wold do the least. but sand storm does the MOST damage AND it blinds while ice storm deals the next most and it slows…. lightning storm deals the least but looks the coolest.

but i totally recommend anyone who wants to try a condition build run sandstorm